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venting!!! not for the faint of heart
December 3, 2001
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I am so pissed!!!! This guy is still trying to convince people he's such a good guy! She's taking up for him too!!! I wish she would go get a life and not have glom on to such a loser! Just what he needs is some woman who will completely over look his crap and stand by him!!! "Stand buy your man... " They're perfect for each other. Perfect to make each other more and more disillusioned. Unfortunately, they draf some of the most unsuspecting and most trusting people along with them. I'M SO MAD. The head of the newspaper in this town knows all about it and has seen my black eye!!! yet he and his troops are parading around still to fool these good people. They have no life so they have to make one up. it's sad really sad. What's more, is this email listing they belong to is such a made up farce - it's just for people like him - WHO HAVE NO LIFE TO BE PROUD OF AND WHO HAVE TO CREATE SOMETHING IMAGINARY. He let me become a member, then when the crap hit the fan and I told everyone on the list he had hit me and emailed the photos to the list owner.... THEY ALL TOOK UP FOR HIM. It's such a bunch of crap. They made it out that I WAS THE ONE CAUSING TROUBLE. Can you believe it?????!!!!

Who can you trust in this world?

December 3, 2001
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artist 2, I am soo sorry to hear of your situation and understand your anger. Sometimes all the energy you spend at vengence (though riteous (sp?)) has that double sided blade. With all that anger, all that angst, all that energy...use it for YOU. Getting over it and being happy IS the best revenge. Try buying a plant and don't water it...abuse it when you must. Paint his name on the pot. When the plant dies, so does the angst and energy you expend in the futile direction of "the loser". If you need to, after that, buy another plant and nurture it. Paint "Artist 2" on it. Treat yourself with the same nurturing and as the plant thrives make it a representation of you. Worth a try?

December 3, 2001
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That's a cool idea. Thanks!

December 3, 2001
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Cool Suzy!!! I like that! The thing is - at some point we really have to pull ourselves totally away from these people and give ourselves the benefit of growing and seeing who they really are and moving on.....not giving them one more minute of our attention or energy.

To spend all this energy in going round and round with whoever, getting upset because they ARE the low lifes they are - doesn't accomplish anything except suck us dry of what we need for ourselves. To rise above - means to move past.

They don't deserve anything from us when they stoop this low. They deserve nothing except what God will give them in just rewards.

When I was younger I used to go round and round with people - trying to throw the last punch, trying to make them see my point, trying to figure them out, understand them, etc.....but "why?" What for? So that we can feel better for maybe having made a wrong judgement in being with them in the first place?

Okay, we made a bad judgement, but based on what information? Now that we have new information - we make another decision, one for our good. So, forgive yourself and don't give them the time of day. I'd laugh at them.

December 3, 2001
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WISE WOMEN UNITE.

December 3, 2001
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Suzyblue,

I love the plant thing!!! How awesomely theraputic!! I am going to buy a plant for myself for the new year and nuture it like me!!!! Your idea brought a great smile to myself!!! I desperately needed it.

Artist2,

I have been there in situations where I suffered humiliation, guilt and misery because I looked like the crazy, evil one. That is a lonely depressing situation. Don't go crazy trying to explain away the world's negative feelings towards you. If they do not respect you as a person enough to find out your side of the story, then realize that there is nothing you can say to convince them otherwise.

Carry yourself with poise, confidence and self respect. don't live your life for others personal opinion!!!

December 3, 2001
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As long as this guy is still making you crazy like this, he's still got power over you. It's like he owns a piece of you. Take it back.

December 3, 2001
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Will you plezzzzzzzzze read those faq's about narcissistic people, you will see that this is part of the game plan. Suck back in that power, he can't touch you any more, and since birds of a feather flock together, what is the big deal, the girl friend is a fool, the people he con's are fools, sometimes being right sucks, been there and done that, sure ok, you got to vent here, and get to kill a plant, but that is it, from now on its success, success, and really focus on you.
btw how swollen are your eyes, done the ice thing, got drops, or are you just going to go to bed?

December 4, 2001
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Got any favorite narcissism web pages Molly? It sounds interesting.

December 4, 2001
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My eye isn't swollen anymore. Only a dark spot below now. Face still a little sore, bruises on arms and chin now fading. You're right moving on is the best thing...

December 4, 2001
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Ladeska has posted them all over Ranmar's help me please X6 the ones that really hit home with me, were the faq's on healthyplace.com it was just like he wrote about the dynamics with Sybil. Ladeska has posted some at geocities, and darn near typed most of the info on many of these threads, check her postings on charmers manipulators as well. All insightful.

Artist, this to shall pass, thank God for make-up. This is day 12 no?

December 4, 2001
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This isn't EXACTLY related but it is empowering and a joke so yuck it up ya'll.

FAIRY TALE FOR WOMEN OF THE 21st CENTURY

Once upon a time,

in a land far away,

a beautiful, independent,

self-assured princess

happened upon a frog as she sat,

contemplating ecological issues

on the shores of an unpolluted pond

in a verdant meadow near her castle.

The frog hopped into the princess's lap

and said: "Elegant Lady,

I was once a handsome prince,

until an evil witch cast a spell upon me.

One kiss from you, however,

and I will turn back

into the dapper young prince that I am.

And then, my sweet, we can marry

and set up housekeeping in your castle,

with my mother,

where you can prepare my meals,

clean my clothes, bear my children,

and forever

feel grateful and happy doing so."

That night,
>~~~~~~~~
as the princess dined sumptuously
>~~~~~~~~
on lightly sauteed frog legs
>~~~~~~~~
seasoned in a white wine
>~~~~~~~~
and onion cream sauce,
>~~~~~~~~
She chuckled and thought to herself:
>~~~~~~~~
"I don't f***ing think so."

Love ya--Artist:)

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