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The Truth about the Bully
February 16, 2011
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Stonginhim77 has requested "I, therefore, encourage each of you receiving "alarm-sounding" PM's and
other sources of fear-inducing "warnings" and veiled threats to publicly
post them here.  EXPOSE THE ENEMY." Per your request I am posting them.

This was an email that was sent to the owner of myinnerworld.com and forwarded to me by the author claiming she was being bullied and harassed. I believed this person, got pulled into the drama then finally sent her a text telling her I was done with her and the situation and told her not to contact me again.

 
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----- Forwarded Message ----

From:

To:

Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:16:59 PM

Subject: Violations on My Inner World

Dear

I wanted to inform you of something that is occurring on your website
message boards in the “Share My Journey/Sunshine Café”. A person posting under
the name of “Ma Strong” is referring to a website “AAC” in a message she posted
on 01/29/2011 at around 5pm. The “AAC” she is referring to is
AllAboutCounseling.Com. “Ma Strong” posts as “StronginHim77” on
AllAboutCounseling.Com.

I joined AllAboutCounseling.Com in April 2010. I stumbled across the
site while studying about co-dependency for a graduate school class in my
Master’s of Forensic Psychology program. I joined in the discussion boards and
engaged interactions with the other members. After a few months, I started to realize
that this is not a supportive mental health and counseling site as it claims to
be. “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” has made claims that she is a licensed counselor
and therapist, as well as a minister and ordained chaplain. Because the site
required anonymity from members for many, many years, I could only take what
she said by her word, as I only had that to verify her claims. I found many
inconsistencies in her statements. Then she would not confirm or deny if she
was a licensed therapist or counselor. It was very confusing. I began to
question in my mind if she was speaking the truth.

 “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” would respond to members’ requests for
help and advice by offering diagnoses to either the members who were posting,
family members of the members who were sharing their stories, or anyone else,
even if people did not ask for advice. She would often talk rudely or condemn
people if they did not follow her advice. She would pretty much attack people
and make judgments about their choices if they did not do exactly as she
suggested. Her standard diagnoses were Borderline Personality Disorder,
Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopath, and Narcissistic Personality
Disorder. She would describe symptoms and criteria to back up these claims.

Because I study the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
Disorders (DSM-IV), I realized that some of the information she was giving out
was not entirely correct. I responded to some of her postings by explaining in
the main forum that it was unethical, irresponsible, detrimental and dangerous
for her or anyone there to diagnose anyone on an anonymous website. I explained
that a proper diagnosis requires a face-to-face clinical interview, assessment
and psychological testing. I stated that an on-line anonymous website is the
improper forum to attempt to diagnose or treat anyone for any mental disorder.

After I started questioning her in further detail, and confronting her
with these matters, to include her condemnation of people’s religious beliefs
or lack thereof, she began to personally attack me on a fairly regular basis.
She began stalking me on the threads, criticizing me, mocking me and insulting
me. At the time, the site was in transition of ownership and there was clearly
not a moderator there for at least 6 months. After the site was sold, a person
posting with the name “Chelonia Mydas” announced she was leaving AAC and she
invited people there to join her at “My Inner World” and directed everyone to
the Sunshine Café that she created under “Share the Journey”. She told people
that they could find her as “Chelonia.” There was a controversy surrounding AAC
that is cited by Paul Elam, which describes unethical and unlawful tactics by
the old management, and some of the previous members who suffered damaging effects
from their experiences on AAC.

In the recent weeks, “Ma Strong’s” attacks against me have gotten
quite vicious, to where other members began to rally and attack me as well. I
started to have thoughts of leaving the site, so I thought about coming over to
“My Inner World.” I found my way to the Sunshine Café and read “Ma Strong’s”
post tonight, describing AAC as not a safe place anymore, and that sociopaths,
narcissists and trolls were taking over. She presented the story as she was the
one being attacked. I am sure she is referring to me (although not by name) as
one of the “sociopaths, narcissists and trolls” who is attacking her.

As a psychology student, I recognize the emotional and mental damage
that this person known as “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” could cause to a huge
number of people, especially wounded, vulnerable, and damaged people.

I have no legal duty to report this to you, but I feel that ethically,
I cannot stay silent and allow this person to disrupt the harmony and
peacefulness of your website, and to use it in a manner to defame and incite
hatred, rage and vengeance to innocent members who are seeking a refuge for
solace and spiritual connection. I hope you honor my wish to remain anonymous,
as this was something I valued while being a member of AAC.

I wish peace for you and I thank you for allowing me to take this
opportunity to enlighten you regarding this situation.

February 16, 2011
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auto99, the bully is YOU.  I for one do NOT like what you are doing to MaStrong and I hope others will voice this disapproval as well.

 

Ma, I'm sorry this is happening to you.

 

andii

February 16, 2011
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andii said:

auto99, the bully is YOU.  I for one do NOT like what you are doing to MaStrong and I hope others will voice this disapproval as well.

 

Ma, I'm sorry this is happening to you.

 

andii       andii right now you are bullying me and I don't appreciate it. 


February 16, 2011
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WOW. It is amazing what someone may say when you have left the room for a short time.

So, because I have a real life, and take a “time-out” to take care of my own “stuff” away from here, this gives people free reign to make up a bunch of shit in their heads about me? WOW.

My aunt and cousins were famous for this—whenever we had a family get-together and one person or a couple would leave to go home, they (usually my aunt) would waste no time to bad-mouth them behind their backs. At one holiday, my cousin’s wife thought I left, but not before I heard her call me a “skinny wench.” Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. So, because I did not want to eat the cake, that made me a “wench?” O-K.

If we were all on web-cam or in-person, would these things really be said to my face? Really? Would you really? Because from what I see on here quite a bit, is that no one appears to like confrontation of any kind, not in real life. But because I choose to stand up for myself and speak my mind, and say what I feel, that makes me a “bully”? But anyone can say whatever they want on here, to anyone, because we don’t have to face each other. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. And "you" meaning the generic "you", not anyone personally.

SO. This is what it comes down to on here then. Damn that chinadoll!! Let’s burn her at the stake!! She’s not one of “us”, because she has not been here long enough on AAC to know how we do it here!! She doesn’t want to play it how we do. She doesn’t want to keep changing nicknames, because that's what some people choose to do, and so everyone "has to" be doing it!! She has to be somebody else!! She can’t be for real!!

 

For the record, I am not LoveandLight. I thought I already cleared that up. In addition, before any more accusations come up, I am not Gaia, either. I know who she is, and that is all I wish to say. I am chinadoll. One nickname. That’s it. That’s all there ever was. Sorry to disappoint anyone who wishes to believe different. I can’t convince you of anything. You will believe what you want. Always. No matter what.

 

I can hear it all now: Damn that chinadoll for taking charge of her own life, and for being responsible for herself! Damn that chinadoll for not wanting to control anyone else, for not wanting to “take sides” and for recognizing that everyone has their own choices—each and every day. Damn that chinadoll for speaking for herself and thinking for herself, and asking questions when things don’t seem to make sense, and for not just taking someone’s word for something. For not being naïve to just believe everything she hears. Damn that chinadoll for trying to see the “big picture”, for wanting to have a better understanding for where everyone else might be coming from. For giving people the benefit of the doubt. For apologizing when she has made a mistake. Damn that chinadoll for taking her time before making a decision, for not just taking one thing  a person says and REACTING and making a decision about the whole person based on that. And having the respect for recognizing that there are two sides to every story, sometimes three. And knowing it’s ok to disagree sometimes, but still like the person despite the disagreement. Damn that chinadoll that she cannot be convinced of anything, except to be true to herself and to trust herself and what her instincts are telling her. And that she encourages others to do the same.

 

Damn me for risking my life every day, to serve and protect the people of this country, so that they can be safe and to be able to go to sleep at night, even if it means that I get no sleep. The military tells us, “You’ll sleep when you’re dead.” Damn me for the things that I give up, so that everyone here can have the right to freedom of speech, to say whatever they want. Even if it is demeaning, humiliating, offensive, harmful, or untrue. Even if it is trash-talking about me. I see it now. I go to work every day, so that people can have that right, to say whatever they want to about me. Nice.

This is apparently how a U.S. servicemember and wounded veteran is treated here. Not in the real world, Thank God. Just because a person had an injury, lost a limb, lost an eye, or can’t hear very well anymore because their ear-drums got blown out during a mortar attack, the military will not throw a person away. I have had 3 significant head injuries. I know I will never be the same like I was, but I am still worth something. I am still valuable; they won’t get rid of me yet. They have invested too much time, training, and work into me to just throw that out. There are over 300 jobs in the military, so they make accommodations for injuries. I can’t expect anyone that doesn’t work side by side with me every day to even know that or understand that, but that’s ok. You don’t know what you don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve simply fallen and gotten back up—quite a few times. I am not useless. I am not dead yet.

I see it all now. Thanks for the “support” here.

WOW. Maybe I should just go ahead and shoot myself in the head now, rather than waiting for the minutes, hours, days and weeks for the enemy to do it. It’s quite obvious that there are some here that would find that to be an acceptable solution.   HERE IS A POST, POSTED ON THIS SITE WHERE SOMEONE THREATENS TO "shoot myself in the head now......"

February 16, 2011
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auto, I am sincerely sorry you feel as though I am bullying you.  I don't mean to make you feel that way.  I am truly sorry.

 

I'm very upset because I feel you are attacking MaStrong relentlessly.   I feel she is trying to stand up for herself and that she is standing alone.  I have felt so alone so many times in my life, that it's a trigger for me and I'll step up whenever and wherever I see it no matter what.  I don't want anybody to ever feel alone.

 

I'm not trying to bully you.  I want you to stop attacking MaStrong. 

 

andii

February 16, 2011
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andii said:

auto, I am sincerely sorry you feel as though I am bullying you.  I don't mean to make you feel that way.  I am truly sorry.

 

I'm very upset because I feel you are attacking MaStrong relentlessly.   I feel she is trying to stand up for herself and that she is standing alone.  I have felt so alone so many times in my life, that it's a trigger for me and I'll step up whenever and wherever I see it no matter what.  I don't want anybody to ever feel alone.

 

I'm not trying to bully you.  I want you to stop attacking MaStrong. 

 


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Andii- I accept your apology thank you.

February 16, 2011
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You're welcome auto.  And I hope you will stop engaging Ma Strong.

 

andii

February 16, 2011
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andii said:

You're welcome auto.  And I hope you will stop engaging Ma Strong.

 

andii  You are right I can't argue with your advice. 


February 16, 2011
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auto the fact that you have created multiple nicknames and have posted under them in my opinio is very twisted. i dont know what to believe from you anymore. i dont trust any nw posters now. i dont know if they are you making up a new background story looking to get some wierd interest sharing with people. i was honest with you when you were "chinadoll' yet you felt the need to post under other nicknames, this is a very sick game to play, please i ask you to never post to me again, i cant believe you are china doll, how do you expect anyone to trust your word when you admitted to breaking a very very old rule from aac? ONLY ONE NICKNAME! you have not been honest, you have crafted new names, and who knows where that has gone, i am sorry but i cannot trust someone i have never met and who has already admitted to lying. i hope you are not love and light because i enjoyed talking to her, but i dont even know if she is real anymore or just a figment of your imagination as you enjoy poting under other names and make up background stories. wow i cant believe my good friend china doll was a liar. thanks for letting me know

February 17, 2011
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You are now seeing the "tip of the iceberg" of the Truth about "Auto999/Chinadoll/LoveandLight/Gaia..."  There are many more, including one of today's "new posters."

Guard your hearts and be vigilant to manipulation & control.

-  Ma Strong

February 17, 2011
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P.S.  The opening letter, pasted at the commencement of this thread, is a complete lie.  This can easily be corroborated by going to that Site and reading my 3 postings with your own eyes.  I am completely innocent of these statements, a fact which can be easily proven by any Reader visiting that Site.   The letter is pure Fiction, as is my "alleged" (and ruthlessly fabricated) posting on that Site.  The lies continue.

-  Ma Strong

February 17, 2011
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ma thank you for the words, but i dont think it is as dramatic as you mak it out to be. and i know you wont listen to me but i just wish everyone would stop posting to auto or any of the other nicknames she has unless its to say something nice. your religious ma, forgive and forget. you have exposed the lie, now lets just try to forget this, i dont care anymore to be honest, i just say no one shares anything unless they need to and people only offer supportive feedback. if auto STILL comes asking for support i will offer it, i dont trust her, if she is even a woman, but i woudlnt turn away from someone who needs help. i just wont offer any personal information, which is something i encourage all members to not do

February 17, 2011
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StronginHim77 said:

You are now seeing the "tip of the iceberg" of the Truth about "Auto999/Chinadoll/LoveandLight/Gaia..."  There are many more, including one of today's "new posters."

Guard your hearts and be vigilant to manipulation & control.

-  Ma Strong


Greetings StronginHim77~

I imagine there are Many more & I would Appreciate if You did NOT point fingers in such a manner as this...
I don't imagine You would wish to be named in the mush pot~

this isn't the Salem Witch Trials... this is a Support Site~

If You wish to know me... then that is fine... but lumping me in a Group without *Proof*beyond a reasonable doubt...
can be dangerous... as You know...

You & I may NOT see eye to eye on things... but please... do Yourself a Favor & cease from just throwing out my name
because I Disagreed with You on some issues...

People need time to get things back on track with all this Username Shuffle...
Maybe if You take a moment & see I come to Inspire... not Expire People's Spirit~

Have a Great One!... Blessings~

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Ma,

 

I'm sorry you're experiencing this.  As frustrating as it is, know that people don't believe those lies, and any who do aren't your friends.  Your character is in tactCool

 

Z, I hear what you're saying re dramatic, but when you're the one being slandered, it just really bites.

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total agreement andii, i have been slandered before, IT SUCKS. but the best thing for everyone to do is not feed the fire, i understand the need to post back to such ridiculous accusations, but i think ma has proven her point, no need to drive the stake further, lets al;l just please put this messy buisness behind us and try to SUPPORT eachother

 

love from z

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StronginHim77 said:

P.S.  The opening letter, pasted at the commencement of this thread, is a complete lie.  This can easily be corroborated by going to that Site and reading my 3 postings with your own eyes.  I am completely innocent of these statements, a fact which can be easily proven by any Reader visiting that Site.   The letter is pure Fiction, as is my "alleged" (and ruthlessly fabricated) posting on that Site.  The lies continue.

-  Ma Strong


Ma,

I did write that letter to My Inner World. At the time, those were my feelings, and I felt that I had a right to speak about my feelings. Whether you agree with the letter or not (I am sure that you do not). You did write a very upsetting post on my Inner World, and they deleted it, which was what I hoped they would do, and they did send me an email to thank me for telling them about the post you wrote.

 

I did receive a similar email, written to My Inner World, speaking to the violations pertaining to breaking the site guidelines about speaking in a derogatory and inflamatory manner and such, which was forwarded to me by another person, but I no longer have a copy of it. That email account had gotten hacked into, and the account was terminated. All the information, all the emails, everything was lost. I gave that email address to only two people I knew from here. Perhaps it was only actually one person who used more than one nickname, I have no way of knowing for sure anymore. It's clear that whoever hacked into that acount did not want anything brought out from it. I do not post personal messages or emails anyway, but I am sure that anyone who might do that would think that I might do the same thing.

 

From what I wrote on that letter,  it was all related to our disagreement from the "Growth and Change" thread, and that specific stuff in the letter was so last month, and I already put it all past me after I wrote it. It appears a mistake on my part that I ever forwarded it, but like I said, a similar letter was also forwarded to me first. I have no way of proving that now, as I no longer have the evidence.

I did feel like you stalked me on the threads, anyone looking at past threads can see that you posted right underneath me on a lot of threads. You may also feel like I stalked you. I don't necessarily think so. It is your right to believe that, if you wish. I don't hold it against you.

 

You may wish to say that this is a lie, and you may feel it is so, if that is what makes you feel at peace with it. I do know that I was not the only one who read that posting. I know the truth as it is shown to me, and we all have the right to see the truth for what we see it to be. God also knows the truth, and that is what we all  have to answer for, for those of us believers. 

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auto the fact that you have created multiple nicknames and have posted under them in my opinio is very twisted. i dont know what to believe from you anymore. i dont trust any nw posters now. i dont know if they are you making up a new background story looking to get some wierd interest sharing with people. i was honest with you when you were "chinadoll' yet you felt the need to post under other nicknames, this is a very sick game to play, please i ask you to never post to me again, i cant believe you are china doll, how do you expect anyone to trust your word when you admitted to breaking a very very old rule from aac? ONLY ONE NICKNAME! you have not been honest, you have crafted new names, and who knows where that has gone, i am sorry but i cannot trust someone i have never met and who has already admitted to lying. i hope you are not love and light because i enjoyed talking to her, but i dont even know if she is real anymore or just a figment of your imagination as you enjoy poting under other names and make up background stories. wow i cant believe my good friend china doll was a liar. thanks for letting me know


auto says she is chinadoll? That is kind of funny. I do not know whether I should laugh or take it as a compliment. I feel very sad that you think that I am a liar. I have said on the other thread that I have only one nickname, and I have only ever had one nickname. I have been here almost a year, and I would think that it would be quite an undertaking to pretend to be me for such a long period of time. Why anyone would want to say that they are me is quite ridiculous and also intriguing.

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WOW. It is amazing what someone may say when you have left the room for a short time.

So, because I have a real life, and take a “time-out” to take care of my own “stuff” away from here, this gives people free reign to make up a bunch of shit in their heads about me? WOW.

My aunt and cousins were famous for this—whenever we had a family get-together and one person or a couple would leave to go home, they (usually my aunt) would waste no time to bad-mouth them behind their backs. At one holiday, my cousin’s wife thought I left, but not before I heard her call me a “skinny wench.” Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. So, because I did not want to eat the cake, that made me a “wench?” O-K.

If we were all on web-cam or in-person, would these things really be said to my face? Really? Would you really? Because from what I see on here quite a bit, is that no one appears to like confrontation of any kind, not in real life. But because I choose to stand up for myself and speak my mind, and say what I feel, that makes me a “bully”? But anyone can say whatever they want on here, to anyone, because we don’t have to face each other. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. And "you" meaning the generic "you", not anyone personally.

SO. This is what it comes down to on here then. Damn that chinadoll!! Let’s burn her at the stake!! She’s not one of “us”, because she has not been here long enough on AAC to know how we do it here!! She doesn’t want to play it how we do. She doesn’t want to keep changing nicknames, because that's what some people choose to do, and so everyone "has to" be doing it!! She has to be somebody else!! She can’t be for real!!

 

For the record, I am not LoveandLight. I thought I already cleared that up. In addition, before any more accusations come up, I am not Gaia, either. I know who she is, and that is all I wish to say. I am chinadoll. One nickname. That’s it. That’s all there ever was. Sorry to disappoint anyone who wishes to believe different. I can’t convince you of anything. You will believe what you want. Always. No matter what.

 

I can hear it all now: Damn that chinadoll for taking charge of her own life, and for being responsible for herself! Damn that chinadoll for not wanting to control anyone else, for not wanting to “take sides” and for recognizing that everyone has their own choices—each and every day. Damn that chinadoll for speaking for herself and thinking for herself, and asking questions when things don’t seem to make sense, and for not just taking someone’s word for something. For not being naïve to just believe everything she hears. Damn that chinadoll for trying to see the “big picture”, for wanting to have a better understanding for where everyone else might be coming from. For giving people the benefit of the doubt. For apologizing when she has made a mistake. Damn that chinadoll for taking her time before making a decision, for not just taking one thing  a person says and REACTING and making a decision about the whole person based on that. And having the respect for recognizing that there are two sides to every story, sometimes three. And knowing it’s ok to disagree sometimes, but still like the person despite the disagreement. Damn that chinadoll that she cannot be convinced of anything, except to be true to herself and to trust herself and what her instincts are telling her. And that she encourages others to do the same.

 

Damn me for risking my life every day, to serve and protect the people of this country, so that they can be safe and to be able to go to sleep at night, even if it means that I get no sleep. The military tells us, “You’ll sleep when you’re dead.” Damn me for the things that I give up, so that everyone here can have the right to freedom of speech, to say whatever they want. Even if it is demeaning, humiliating, offensive, harmful, or untrue. Even if it is trash-talking about me. I see it now. I go to work every day, so that people can have that right, to say whatever they want to about me. Nice.

This is apparently how a U.S. servicemember and wounded veteran is treated here. Not in the real world, Thank God. Just because a person had an injury, lost a limb, lost an eye, or can’t hear very well anymore because their ear-drums got blown out during a mortar attack, the military will not throw a person away. I have had 3 significant head injuries. I know I will never be the same like I was, but I am still worth something. I am still valuable; they won’t get rid of me yet. They have invested too much time, training, and work into me to just throw that out. There are over 300 jobs in the military, so they make accommodations for injuries. I can’t expect anyone that doesn’t work side by side with me every day to even know that or understand that, but that’s ok. You don’t know what you don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve simply fallen and gotten back up—quite a few times. I am not useless. I am not dead yet.

I see it all now. Thanks for the “support” here.

WOW. Maybe I should just go ahead and shoot myself in the head now, rather than waiting for the minutes, hours, days and weeks for the enemy to do it. It’s quite obvious that there are some here that would find that to be an acceptable solution.   HERE IS A POST, POSTED ON THIS SITE WHERE SOMEONE THREATENS TO "shoot myself in the head now......"


 

If anyone would like to look at the "Growth and Change" thread to see that I actually wrote this post, feel free to do so. And on that thread, I also explained why I wrote it. Also, with auto's note on the post that someone threatens to "shoot myself in the head", if she is saying she is me, is she threatening to shoot herself in the head? Should I call the police? Wait, do I call on myself? Who do I say is threatening to shoot who?

 

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the ridiculous nonsense in this, where she says she is me. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell.

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auto999 said:

WOW. It is amazing what someone may say when you have left the room for a short time.

So, because I have a real life, and take a “time-out” to take care of my own “stuff” away from here, this gives people free reign to make up a bunch of shit in their heads about me? WOW.

My aunt and cousins were famous for this—whenever we had a family get-together and one person or a couple would leave to go home, they (usually my aunt) would waste no time to bad-mouth them behind their backs. At one holiday, my cousin’s wife thought I left, but not before I heard her call me a “skinny wench.” Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. So, because I did not want to eat the cake, that made me a “wench?” O-K.

If we were all on web-cam or in-person, would these things really be said to my face? Really? Would you really? Because from what I see on here quite a bit, is that no one appears to like confrontation of any kind, not in real life. But because I choose to stand up for myself and speak my mind, and say what I feel, that makes me a “bully”? But anyone can say whatever they want on here, to anyone, because we don’t have to face each other. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. And "you" meaning the generic "you", not anyone personally.

SO. This is what it comes down to on here then. Damn that chinadoll!! Let’s burn her at the stake!! She’s not one of “us”, because she has not been here long enough on AAC to know how we do it here!! She doesn’t want to play it how we do. She doesn’t want to keep changing nicknames, because that's what some people choose to do, and so everyone "has to" be doing it!! She has to be somebody else!! She can’t be for real!!

 

For the record, I am not LoveandLight. I thought I already cleared that up. In addition, before any more accusations come up, I am not Gaia, either. I know who she is, and that is all I wish to say. I am chinadoll. One nickname. That’s it. That’s all there ever was. Sorry to disappoint anyone who wishes to believe different. I can’t convince you of anything. You will believe what you want. Always. No matter what.

 

I can hear it all now: Damn that chinadoll for taking charge of her own life, and for being responsible for herself! Damn that chinadoll for not wanting to control anyone else, for not wanting to “take sides” and for recognizing that everyone has their own choices—each and every day. Damn that chinadoll for speaking for herself and thinking for herself, and asking questions when things don’t seem to make sense, and for not just taking someone’s word for something. For not being naïve to just believe everything she hears. Damn that chinadoll for trying to see the “big picture”, for wanting to have a better understanding for where everyone else might be coming from. For giving people the benefit of the doubt. For apologizing when she has made a mistake. Damn that chinadoll for taking her time before making a decision, for not just taking one thing  a person says and REACTING and making a decision about the whole person based on that. And having the respect for recognizing that there are two sides to every story, sometimes three. And knowing it’s ok to disagree sometimes, but still like the person despite the disagreement. Damn that chinadoll that she cannot be convinced of anything, except to be true to herself and to trust herself and what her instincts are telling her. And that she encourages others to do the same.

 

Damn me for risking my life every day, to serve and protect the people of this country, so that they can be safe and to be able to go to sleep at night, even if it means that I get no sleep. The military tells us, “You’ll sleep when you’re dead.” Damn me for the things that I give up, so that everyone here can have the right to freedom of speech, to say whatever they want. Even if it is demeaning, humiliating, offensive, harmful, or untrue. Even if it is trash-talking about me. I see it now. I go to work every day, so that people can have that right, to say whatever they want to about me. Nice.

This is apparently how a U.S. servicemember and wounded veteran is treated here. Not in the real world, Thank God. Just because a person had an injury, lost a limb, lost an eye, or can’t hear very well anymore because their ear-drums got blown out during a mortar attack, the military will not throw a person away. I have had 3 significant head injuries. I know I will never be the same like I was, but I am still worth something. I am still valuable; they won’t get rid of me yet. They have invested too much time, training, and work into me to just throw that out. There are over 300 jobs in the military, so they make accommodations for injuries. I can’t expect anyone that doesn’t work side by side with me every day to even know that or understand that, but that’s ok. You don’t know what you don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve simply fallen and gotten back up—quite a few times. I am not useless. I am not dead yet.

I see it all now. Thanks for the “support” here.

WOW. Maybe I should just go ahead and shoot myself in the head now, rather than waiting for the minutes, hours, days and weeks for the enemy to do it. It’s quite obvious that there are some here that would find that to be an acceptable solution.   HERE IS A POST, POSTED ON THIS SITE WHERE SOMEONE THREATENS TO "shoot myself in the head now......"


 

If anyone would like to look at the "Growth and Change" thread to see that I actually wrote this post, feel free to do so. And on that thread, I also explained why I wrote it. Also, with auto's note on the post that someone threatens to "shoot myself in the head", if she is saying she is me, is she threatening to shoot herself in the head? Should I call the police? Wait, do I call on myself? Who do I say is threatening to shoot who?

 

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the ridiculous nonsense in this, where she says she is me. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell.


chinadoll said:

auto999 said:

WOW. It is amazing what someone may say when you have left the room for a short time.

So, because I have a real life, and take a “time-out” to take care of my own “stuff” away from here, this gives people free reign to make up a bunch of shit in their heads about me? WOW.

My aunt and cousins were famous for this—whenever we had a family get-together and one person or a couple would leave to go home, they (usually my aunt) would waste no time to bad-mouth them behind their backs. At one holiday, my cousin’s wife thought I left, but not before I heard her call me a “skinny wench.” Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. So, because I did not want to eat the cake, that made me a “wench?” O-K.

If we were all on web-cam or in-person, would these things really be said to my face? Really? Would you really? Because from what I see on here quite a bit, is that no one appears to like confrontation of any kind, not in real life. But because I choose to stand up for myself and speak my mind, and say what I feel, that makes me a “bully”? But anyone can say whatever they want on here, to anyone, because we don’t have to face each other. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I suppose. And "you" meaning the generic "you", not anyone personally.

SO. This is what it comes down to on here then. Damn that chinadoll!! Let’s burn her at the stake!! She’s not one of “us”, because she has not been here long enough on AAC to know how we do it here!! She doesn’t want to play it how we do. She doesn’t want to keep changing nicknames, because that's what some people choose to do, and so everyone "has to" be doing it!! She has to be somebody else!! She can’t be for real!!

 

For the record, I am not LoveandLight. I thought I already cleared that up. In addition, before any more accusations come up, I am not Gaia, either. I know who she is, and that is all I wish to say. I am chinadoll. One nickname. That’s it. That’s all there ever was. Sorry to disappoint anyone who wishes to believe different. I can’t convince you of anything. You will believe what you want. Always. No matter what.

 

I can hear it all now: Damn that chinadoll for taking charge of her own life, and for being responsible for herself! Damn that chinadoll for not wanting to control anyone else, for not wanting to “take sides” and for recognizing that everyone has their own choices—each and every day. Damn that chinadoll for speaking for herself and thinking for herself, and asking questions when things don’t seem to make sense, and for not just taking someone’s word for something. For not being naïve to just believe everything she hears. Damn that chinadoll for trying to see the “big picture”, for wanting to have a better understanding for where everyone else might be coming from. For giving people the benefit of the doubt. For apologizing when she has made a mistake. Damn that chinadoll for taking her time before making a decision, for not just taking one thing  a person says and REACTING and making a decision about the whole person based on that. And having the respect for recognizing that there are two sides to every story, sometimes three. And knowing it’s ok to disagree sometimes, but still like the person despite the disagreement. Damn that chinadoll that she cannot be convinced of anything, except to be true to herself and to trust herself and what her instincts are telling her. And that she encourages others to do the same.

 

Damn me for risking my life every day, to serve and protect the people of this country, so that they can be safe and to be able to go to sleep at night, even if it means that I get no sleep. The military tells us, “You’ll sleep when you’re dead.” Damn me for the things that I give up, so that everyone here can have the right to freedom of speech, to say whatever they want. Even if it is demeaning, humiliating, offensive, harmful, or untrue. Even if it is trash-talking about me. I see it now. I go to work every day, so that people can have that right, to say whatever they want to about me. Nice.

This is apparently how a U.S. servicemember and wounded veteran is treated here. Not in the real world, Thank God. Just because a person had an injury, lost a limb, lost an eye, or can’t hear very well anymore because their ear-drums got blown out during a mortar attack, the military will not throw a person away. I have had 3 significant head injuries. I know I will never be the same like I was, but I am still worth something. I am still valuable; they won’t get rid of me yet. They have invested too much time, training, and work into me to just throw that out. There are over 300 jobs in the military, so they make accommodations for injuries. I can’t expect anyone that doesn’t work side by side with me every day to even know that or understand that, but that’s ok. You don’t know what you don’t know, and there’s nothing wrong with that. I’ve simply fallen and gotten back up—quite a few times. I am not useless. I am not dead yet.

I see it all now. Thanks for the “support” here.

WOW. Maybe I should just go ahead and shoot myself in the head now, rather than waiting for the minutes, hours, days and weeks for the enemy to do it. It’s quite obvious that there are some here that would find that to be an acceptable solution.   HERE IS A POST, POSTED ON THIS SITE WHERE SOMEONE THREATENS TO "shoot myself in the head now......"


 

If anyone would like to look at the "Growth and Change" thread to see that I actually wrote this post, feel free to do so. And on that thread, I also explained why I wrote it. Also, with auto's note on the post that someone threatens to "shoot myself in the head", if she is saying she is me, is she threatening to shoot herself in the head? Should I call the police? Wait, do I call on myself? Who do I say is threatening to shoot who?

 

Please tell me I am not the only one to see the ridiculous nonsense in this, where she says she is me. If you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell.   I do agree that whoever is accusing me of being china doll or china doll of me is ridiculous. I don't care what people choose to believe on this site I have no control over that.  


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chinadoll said:

StronginHim77 said:

P.S.  The opening letter, pasted at the commencement of this thread, is a complete lie.  This can easily be corroborated by going to that Site and reading my 3 postings with your own eyes.  I am completely innocent of these statements, a fact which can be easily proven by any Reader visiting that Site.   The letter is pure Fiction, as is my "alleged" (and ruthlessly fabricated) posting on that Site.  The lies continue.

-  Ma Strong


Ma,

I did write that letter to My Inner World. At the time, those were my feelings, and I felt that I had a right to speak about my feelings. Whether you agree with the letter or not (I am sure that you do not). You did write a very upsetting post on my Inner World, and they deleted it, which was what I hoped they would do, and they did send me an email to thank me for telling them about the post you wrote.

 

I did receive a similar email, written to My Inner World, speaking to the violations pertaining to breaking the site guidelines about speaking in a derogatory and inflamatory manner and such, which was forwarded to me by another person, but I no longer have a copy of it. That email account had gotten hacked into, and the account was terminated. All the information, all the emails, everything was lost. I gave that email address to only two people I knew from here. Perhaps it was only actually one person who used more than one nickname, I have no way of knowing for sure anymore. It's clear that whoever hacked into that acount did not want anything brought out from it. I do not post personal messages or emails anyway, but I am sure that anyone who might do that would think that I might do the same thing.

 

From what I wrote on that letter,  it was all related to our disagreement from the "Growth and Change" thread, and that specific stuff in the letter was so last month, and I already put it all past me after I wrote it. It appears a mistake on my part that I ever forwarded it, but like I said, a similar letter was also forwarded to me first. I have no way of proving that now, as I no longer have the evidence.

I did feel like you stalked me on the threads, anyone looking at past threads can see that you posted right underneath me on a lot of threads. You may also feel like I stalked you. I don't necessarily think so. It is your right to believe that, if you wish. I don't hold it against you.

 

You may wish to say that this is a lie, and you may feel it is so, if that is what makes you feel at peace with it. I do know that I was not the only one who read that posting. I know the truth as it is shown to me, and we all have the right to see the truth for what we see it to be. God also knows the truth, and that is what we all  have to answer for, for those of us believers. 

I read a post on my innerworld under the screen name of.......... where this person stated that a member on a thread on this site was a list of diagnoses that I copied down among other accusations. I felt like this was an effort to intimidate/bully/harass someone on  this site. I read somewhere on that site that it was against there terms of service to diagnose people beside being against the law in Florida, Texas, and many other states or to practice healthcare without a license and diagnose people.. I wrote a letter to the owner of the site as well and who knows how many others saw it and did the same about my concerns. The owner wrote me a letter back apologizing and then the offending posts was removed. I am a witness to that occurence as well as the owner of the site and whoever else may have seen it. I have no problems witnessing this fact and I would imagine the person on the site who saw it and removed it would have no problem telling the truth about what they saw either.



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zarathustra said:

auto the fact that you have created multiple nicknames and have posted under them in my opinio is very twisted. i dont know what to believe from you anymore. i dont trust any nw posters now. i dont know if they are you making up a new background story looking to get some wierd interest sharing with people. i was honest with you when you were "chinadoll' yet you felt the need to post under other nicknames, this is a very sick game to play, please i ask you to never post to me again, i cant believe you are china doll, how do you expect anyone to trust your word when you admitted to breaking a very very old rule from aac? ONLY ONE NICKNAME! you have not been honest, you have crafted new names, and who knows where that has gone, i am sorry but i cannot trust someone i have never met and who has already admitted to lying. i hope you are not love and light because i enjoyed talking to her, but i dont even know if she is real anymore or just a figment of your imagination as you enjoy poting under other names and make up background stories. wow i cant believe my good friend china doll was a liar. thanks for letting me know


auto says she is chinadoll? That is kind of funny. I do not know whether I should laugh or take it as a compliment. I feel very sad that you think that I am a liar. I have said on the other thread that I have only one nickname, and I have only ever had one nickname. I have been here almost a year, and I would think that it would be quite an undertaking to pretend to be me for such a long period of time. Why anyone would want to say that they are me is quite ridiculous and also intriguing.


For the record auto999 or me for that matter never said they were chinadoll. This is a false accusation.

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StronginHim77 said:

P.S.  The opening letter, pasted at the commencement of this thread, is a complete lie.  This can easily be corroborated by going to that Site and reading my 3 postings with your own eyes.  I am completely innocent of these statements, a fact which can be easily proven by any Reader visiting that Site.   The letter is pure Fiction, as is my "alleged" (and ruthlessly fabricated) posting on that Site.  The lies continue.

-  Ma Strong


Ma,

I did write that letter to My Inner World. At the time, those were my feelings, and I felt that I had a right to speak about my feelings. Whether you agree with the letter or not (I am sure that you do not). You did write a very upsetting post on my Inner World, and they deleted it, which was what I hoped they would do, and they did send me an email to thank me for telling them about the post you wrote.

  I NEVER WROTE ANY SUCH POST.  YOU ARE LYING.  THIS CAN EASILY BE VERIFIED BY QUESTIONING ANY OF THE REGULAR POSTERS AT SUNSHINE CAFE.  YOU ARE A VERY SICK PRSON TO LIE LIKE THISM, CHINADOLL.

 

-  mA sTRONG

 

You may wish to say that this is a lie, and you may feel it is so, if that is what makes you feel at peace with it. I do know that I was not the only one who read that posting. I know the truth as it is shown to me, and we all have the right to see the truth for what we see it to be. God also knows the truth, and that is what we all  have to answer for, for those of us believers. 


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Stonginhim77 has requested "I, therefore, encourage each of you receiving "alarm-sounding" PM's and

other sources of fear-inducing "warnings" and veiled threats to publicly

post them here.  EXPOSE THE ENEMY." Per your request I am posting them.

This was an email that was sent to the owner of myinnerworld.com and forwarded to me by the author claiming she was being bullied and harassed. I believed this person, got pulled into the drama then finally sent her a text telling her I was done with her and the situation and told her not to contact me again.

 
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----- Forwarded Message ----

From:

To:

Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:16:59 PM

Subject: Violations on My Inner World

Dear

I wanted to inform you of something that is occurring on your website

message boards in the “Share My Journey/Sunshine Café”. A person posting under

the name of “Ma Strong” is referring to a website “AAC” in a message she posted

on 01/29/2011 at around 5pm. The “AAC” she is referring to is

AllAboutCounseling.Com. “Ma Strong” posts as “StronginHim77” on

AllAboutCounseling.Com.

I joined AllAboutCounseling.Com in April 2010. I stumbled across the

site while studying about co-dependency for a graduate school class in my

Master’s of Forensic Psychology program. I joined in the discussion boards and

engaged interactions with the other members. After a few months, I started to realize

that this is not a supportive mental health and counseling site as it claims to

be. “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” has made claims that she is a licensed counselor

and therapist, as well as a minister and ordained chaplain. Because the site

required anonymity from members for many, many years, I could only take what

she said by her word, as I only had that to verify her claims. I found many

inconsistencies in her statements. Then she would not confirm or deny if she

was a licensed therapist or counselor. It was very confusing. I began to

question in my mind if she was speaking the truth.

 “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” would respond to members’ requests for

help and advice by offering diagnoses to either the members who were posting,

family members of the members who were sharing their stories, or anyone else,

even if people did not ask for advice. She would often talk rudely or condemn

people if they did not follow her advice. She would pretty much attack people

and make judgments about their choices if they did not do exactly as she

suggested. Her standard diagnoses were Borderline Personality Disorder,

Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopath, and Narcissistic Personality

Disorder. She would describe symptoms and criteria to back up these claims.

Because I study the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental

Disorders (DSM-IV), I realized that some of the information she was giving out

was not entirely correct. I responded to some of her postings by explaining in

the main forum that it was unethical, irresponsible, detrimental and dangerous

for her or anyone there to diagnose anyone on an anonymous website. I explained

that a proper diagnosis requires a face-to-face clinical interview, assessment

and psychological testing. I stated that an on-line anonymous website is the

improper forum to attempt to diagnose or treat anyone for any mental disorder.

After I started questioning her in further detail, and confronting her

with these matters, to include her condemnation of people’s religious beliefs

or lack thereof, she began to personally attack me on a fairly regular basis.

She began stalking me on the threads, criticizing me, mocking me and insulting

me. At the time, the site was in transition of ownership and there was clearly

not a moderator there for at least 6 months. After the site was sold, a person

posting with the name “Chelonia Mydas” announced she was leaving AAC and she

invited people there to join her at “My Inner World” and directed everyone to

the Sunshine Café that she created under “Share the Journey”. She told people

that they could find her as “Chelonia.” There was a controversy surrounding AAC

that is cited by Paul Elam, which describes unethical and unlawful tactics by

the old management, and some of the previous members who suffered damaging effects

from their experiences on AAC.

In the recent weeks, “Ma Strong’s” attacks against me have gotten

quite vicious, to where other members began to rally and attack me as well. I

started to have thoughts of leaving the site, so I thought about coming over to

“My Inner World.” I found my way to the Sunshine Café and read “Ma Strong’s”

post tonight, describing AAC as not a safe place anymore, and that sociopaths,

narcissists and trolls were taking over. She presented the story as she was the

one being attacked. I am sure she is referring to me (although not by name) as

one of the “sociopaths, narcissists and trolls” who is attacking her.

As a psychology student, I recognize the emotional and mental damage

that this person known as “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” could cause to a huge

number of people, especially wounded, vulnerable, and damaged people.

I have no legal duty to report this to you, but I feel that ethically,

I cannot stay silent and allow this person to disrupt the harmony and

peacefulness of your website, and to use it in a manner to defame and incite

hatred, rage and vengeance to innocent members who are seeking a refuge for

solace and spiritual connection. I hope you honor my wish to remain anonymous,

as this was something I valued while being a member of AAC.

I wish peace for you and I thank you for allowing me to take this

opportunity to enlighten you regarding this situation.     I WAS A WITNESS TO ALL OF THIS AND AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WRITTEN IN THIS LETTER. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE EXPERIENCE MANY OF THE SAME THINGS BY THE SAME PERSON WHO THIS COMPLAINT WAS MADE AGAINST. I WROTE A LETTER ABOUT MY CONCERNS TO THIS SITE AS WELL. THE PERSON WHO THIS LETTER WAS SENT TO SENT ME A LETTER CONFIRMING THAT THE COMPLAINT WAS RECIEVED AND ACTION WAS TAKEN. I WAS GENUINLY CONCERNED FOR THE PERSONS SAFETY WHO THIS DIAGNOSING AND DEFAMATION WAS AIMED AT. MORALLY I FELT I HAD A DUTY TO REPORT THIS VIOLATION ON LINE BULLYING/DIAGNOSING AS WELL.


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