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St John's Wort?
November 18, 2002
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Just a few questions. I am in the process right now of deciding whether or not to take St. John's Wort. Does anyone know whether or not it works as an anti-depressant? Also, how long does it take once it's in your system to start working?

November 19, 2002
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Scary name ain't it now? Many of my friends take it for every known reason under the sun...heard it can cure the bubonic plague should it return. No harm in trying it...heard it's very good for you. 🙂

November 19, 2002
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Hi Mr.I take St.Johns Wort.I have been taking it for about 2 years,and recently changed it to a higher Mg-1000. The 300mg didn't work that well,but I have noticed a change with the 1000's.Its worth a try.I have also heard Kava Kava is supposed to be good.

November 19, 2002
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WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot take St John's Wort if you are already taking forms of prescribed anti-depressants....

....seek advice from doctor / pharmacist first!!!!!

Love Becca xxxxx

November 19, 2002
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kava kava has been shown to cause liver damage with frequent use. It's traditional use is as a celebratory drug, a way to get inebriated and become more relaxed and sociable. Not every day use.

Consult a holistic physician, or chinese herbalist, if you are really interested. Don't fiddle around with your liver unless under the supervision of a healthcare provider.

November 19, 2002
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God...Becca and Cici...thanx for the education...now to educate my friends who are eating that stuff like candy...I really didn't know...glad the name alone was enough to turn me off to it...they keep forcing it on me...I thought it was hocus pocus stuff but it seems worst. 🙁

November 19, 2002
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I'm taking no prescribed antidepressants, I've started taking ST. John's Wort and it is working wonders for me. My outlook seems more positive and I am focused more on what is important. This last full week has seemed like I have been doing better than I ever have. It must work like an antidepressant. Heck, if an herb can do this, I think antidepressants might have me bouncing off the wall LOL! Well, gotta go, going to sleep now.

Cici,

Thanx for the heads up on Kava Kava, guess I'll only take that when I am craving a drink. Been sober a month and 5 days today!

November 20, 2002
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CONGRATS ON YOUR SOBRIETY!! NOW THATS IMPRESSIVE. :]

November 20, 2002
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Well done. Mr. A - proud of you! Keep on going just a day at a time.

November 20, 2002
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That's actually a great idea (to use kava when you crave a drink), as kava kava is not habit forming. Here's a little history - it was originally used in the Pacific islands.

History

Kava kava has been used by Pacific Islanders for more than 3,000 years as a relaxing and social drink. The roots would be ground, pounded or chewed and then soaked in water to produce the drink. Captain Cook described its ceremonial use in 1768 when pieces of the root were chewed and then soaked in coconut milk. The inhabitants of Hawaii have used it for a variety of minor ailments, including those in children and the elderly. Its name is derived from the Hawaiian word for bitter.

Uses

Traditional uses for Kava kava include anxiety, irritability, tension, fatigue/debility, insomnia, pain relief and migraine. Nowadays it is used for stress, nervous tension and anxiety.

The Medicine

The root and rhizomes are used for the medicine, which is available in a variety of forms including tincture, powder capsule and tablets, some of which contain standardised extracts of the Kava kava plant. Standardisation ensures that every tablet contains the same amount of Kava pyrones - the key constituent of Kava kava - so that the effects are reproducible.

Standardised extracts have been used in clinical trials and have shown Kava kava to be as effective as conventional medicines in treating anxiety, but with far fewer side effects and without being habit forming. The normal dose used in these trials provided 120 mg of Kava pyrones per day. Research has shown calming benefits to start within 15 minutes. For optimum benefit a course of four weeks of standardised extract is recommended.

Kava kava can also help reduce sleeplessness and has recently been shown to help menopausal women overcome symptoms such as stress, anxiety and hot flushes. Up to 600 mg Kava lactones in divided doses through the day can improve mental function, although higher doses can cause sedation.

I've used the micronized powder form of the root and it's pretty good, tastes awfl though - like eating dirt. yucko.

November 20, 2002
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A few years ago when I was going to counceling, my phychologist recommended the Kava Kava for anxiety to use to tied me over until I could get to the phychiatrist for a perscription.

She said she took it herself, as she left her office after a busy, stressful day and by time she got home she would be relaxed.

Thanks for the techinical stuff Cici.

Be well all.

November 20, 2002
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Depression is a very typical side effect for those that are in "recovery" I also like SAMe which not only is a good anti depressant, but cleanses your liver at the same time. I have heard however not to take St John's while taking birth controll, fact or fiction, who knows, but beware.

November 20, 2002
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Molly,

What is SAMe? Could you please explain?

November 23, 2002
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FACT: Doo not take St John's if you are going to be in the sun....I have scrring from the effects...not to bad but I live in a Northern climate so I really only need the st johns ( or thora zine) (joke) in the winter. or low sun timmes.

St john 's worked for me and I feel I am rather dysthymic....(always a little depressed)

Psych I know daid kavakava was okay....

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