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Site Bullying and Secret Agendas?....Ma Strong
February 14, 2011
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It saddens me to learn today that many friends here on AAC have been frightened off the threads by rumors, fear-provoking PM's and unproven alarms that a certain "someone" has a vendetta against many of us...a vendetta which could result in trumped up, anonymous police reports & investigations, allegations of legal wrongdoing on the part of innocent posters and general mayhem.  All because ONE PERSON (with mental and/or severe emotional issues) has [presumably] launched a campaign of intimidation and harrassment against various, targeted individuals.

Please, my dear friends.  Stand your ground.  Such bullying and cyber-stalking is ILLEGAL.  Read the threads.  What crimes have any of you committed?  Answer?  NONE.  The only person, guilty of wrongdoing, is the unstable and controlling individual who is launching this campaign of fear.  Her/his goal?  TO CONTROL THE THREADS. 

Last time I checked, we lived in a democracy...in a Nation founded on the belief that BULLIES SHOULD BE RESISTED OPENLY AND BOLDLY.  Hence, the American Revolution. 

I, therefore, encourage each of you receiving "alarm-sounding" PM's and other sources of fear-inducing "warnings" and veiled threats to publicly post them here.  EXPOSE THE ENEMY. 

Enemies can only operate in darkness.  Once the light is shed upon them, they scurry like rats.  They are rendered ineffective.

-  Ma Strong

February 14, 2011
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Ma, could you direct me to where this is all happening?  I don't read all of the threads- and don't want to- but I haven't seen anything that goes to the extent to which you refer.  Without specifics, I have to wonder if a post like this doesn't just fuel whatever fire you have going on somewhere. I'm sorry if you personally are being harassed on PM's- maybe you could block whoever is doing it and stop it?  I saw that you posted one PM you had received and near as I can tell that was it- and that was a few days ago.

 

Thank you, SD

February 14, 2011
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I am going to have to side with sdesigns perception of this thread. If you are having a problem with a pm your best bet would be to let the administrators of this site know. Starting threads of this nature is only going to stir the pot and create more drama. Lets keep the focus on supporting positive topics and off the negative ones. I have read alot of posts here where people are opening up and helping each other out.

February 15, 2011
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SD -

You and I go back quite a ways on these threads.  No...I have not personally received any further harassing PM's, since the one that I publicly posted.  Unfortunately, four other posters have generated emails to me this weekend, expressing the following: they are receiving threatening, intimidating PM''s which they are afraid to post or "expose publicly" for fear of reprisal; and they are also getting emails, indicating that there is a dangerous "stalker-poster" here on the threads who has successfully hacked into one individual's email account, as well as filing a bogus (yet troublesome) police report against another innocent poster. 

Hence, they are afraid of problems which could affect their employment, etc. and have been bullied (via fear) away from the Site.  All are afraid to post this information publicly, as I did.   And yes...I feel very bad that this is going on because of one, toxic whack-o.  It needs to be stopped and the stalker/attacker identified and properly dealt with.

I posted about "Site Bullying and Secret Agendas" in an attempt to encourage any who are being victimized in this manner to step forward.  Unfortunately, (other than you and Canyon who are disapproving of my effort), none of the actual "victims" are willing to do so.

Having done what I can, I remain...

Respectfully,

Ma

February 15, 2011
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The following is an example of what I have been receiving:

 

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Now this is odd.  No further PM's from my new, secret stalker, since I shared her venom publicly?  Hmmmm…..

-  Ma  

The enemy's aiming at you. Protect yourself. (See Ephesians 5:11-18.)

February 15, 2011
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Well, Ma, you didn't say specifically what was going on with other posters.  It seemed like a continuation of what you had already posted and therefore I made the conclusion that I did, based on the information given.  What you descirbe now is not what you described in your first post.  This sounds like a situation for the administrators to handle.  And hopefully they will. 

 

Are all the PM's coming from one person??  And are they all religious based? 

 

Maybe the Pm's aren't such a good idea in this setting.  Has Admin responded at all to you?

February 15, 2011
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I think that the PM feature should be set where you have to approve who you will allow to send them to you.  Maybe just your buddy list or something.   I belong to a local website in my community where they allow PM's and unfortunately this type of bullying goes on all of the time. They finally restricted it to where only your buddies could pm and it helped a lot. 

Hope Admin gets on top of this soon.   Not a fun situation to put hurting people in a position of fear.   The person who is doing this really has some serious issues that need to be addressed.  

If I leave this site it will be for my own reasons, but not out of fear.  

February 15, 2011
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wow, i just clicked on that thing ma posted, how anyone can accuse ma of being toxic is beyond me, thats just ridiculous and offensive, something that is a blatant lie and does not belong on a mental health support site,

 

i have noticed certain members that i have never heard of before the change coming in - some claiming to be old posters with new names - and causing fear and panick claiming things like people hacking accounts and asking for personal information, i was PM by soemone who i have never heard of, they were very polite and asked for my email adress, when i PM them back and asked who they were no response, wierd, not to mention this person was asking me questions if i knew if someone or soemthing was secretly the old administrater, i firmly shut down and such nonsense (politely) and told the person nothing to fear, but they never responded back to me beyong tat one PM asking for my email and asking what i knew.

 

i openly admit i am atheist, but i have NOTHING but compassion for ma, if she didnt stand up for her beliefs then i wouldnt respect her like i do, we may have different views but she is not toxic, and i understand whay she created this thread, posters tend to not remember the admin. they tend to form close nit groups and only talk amongst themselves, she is posting this for any member who is also being harrased to know they are blatant lies, i agree with your posting of this ma, i didnt create a thread, but i have already spoken out against the people trying to induce fear in others.

 

i have received no such email as you have, but i think you did the wise thing by poasting it for everyopne to see, it shows the twisted minded person that what he feels is unsafe to post on a thread and therefore must PM, wont remain private, not to mention if anyone else gets attacked they can see they are not alone and hopefully wont be frightened

February 16, 2011
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SD -  Here is another sample of the garbage that is being cycled by an anonymous Site bully.  I have also been told that someone on these threads has software which makes her IP untraceable; thus, she can create an unlimited number of nics and utilize same for anonymous harassment and intimidation.  It is my hope that this individual gets caught and legally prosecuted.   This is the PM to which "Z" was referring above.

-  Ma

 

12:34 pm
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The following was vomited privately into my PM's today.   An anonymous criticism is a cowardly criticism…hence disregarded.  I will, however, happily publish all future PM's from "gaia."  Share the joy, so to speak.  Against whom have I made accusation?  Hmmmm….(scratching head in puzzlement).  Will we EVER learn the true identity of "gaia?"  Is the kitty out of the bag?
Subject: Wronginhim
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You're accusations are abusive and absurd!  YOU need HELP!  YOU are TOXIC!!!  I have emailed admin.
February 16, 2011
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Subject: To: StronginHim77
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To: StronginHim77

This is a formal notice,

Do NOT ever contact me again!

 

Again, bullies hate exposure.  Hence the above PM which I received yesterday.  [Isn't it amazing the venom and garbage that people will post anonymously?]

If you are reading this "Auto999" (should I list your other nic's?), be advised that I will post ANY AND ALL shameful, harassing, threatening or nasty PM's for everyone on the Site to see.  It is important that others realize what is going on behind the scenes via PM's.

-  Ma

February 16, 2011
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Ma:  Has Admin been contacted?  Has Admin responded?  This is certainly unacceptable behavior.  My concern is that Admin is going to allow this to continue.  Supposedly this site had 2 admins- I wonder what their role is?  I wonder if it will be like AAC (the old one) where SC just seemed to disappear?

 

And you didn't answer, but is this same person the same one contacting other people as you said above? 

 

And it also seems that this is connected to religion.  I think we can come up with a name or two of previous posters who had a problem with that.  I am not sure if the guidelines are the same as they were for the old aac- but religion was a topic for the Libs side but I have noticed that that doesn't seem to hold true anymore on the new site.  Perhaps this is irritating this person?  Will be interesting to see what Admin does about it. 

February 16, 2011
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SD -

The people who have quietly emailed me are universally afraid of reprisals; therefore, they fear disclosing the name(s) [or nic's] of the individual(s) sending them ominous, threatening emails.  Because of this, I am unable to identify any nic's, other than the ones I have publicly posted on this thread.  I have also received a series of PM's from one individual who wanted me to contact military/civil policy authorities and cause trouble for -- yet another -- poster on the threads.  I can publish these PM's, but have held off doing so, lest more damage be done to the targeted poster.  Sheer insanity.

I do not know if these attacks are generated by religious issues.  I state this because two of the targeted posters are definitely not Christians.  Three others have openly acknowledged their Christian faith.  So, there seems to be an even divide between the "Christians and the lions."  (That's a joke, ok?)

I have not heard anything from Administration.  I have decided to continue publicly posting ANYTHING venemous sent to me and encouraging others to do likewise.  If we ALL break the "Silence," the toxic and destructive posters will slither off and take their sick agendas with them.  That is my hope.

-  Ma

February 16, 2011
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Z -

Thanks for your take on this mess.  I appreciate your candor.

-  Ma

February 16, 2011
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no problem at all ma, i have much respect for you, to my knowledge you are one of the eldest posters and have been very dedicated to helping others, i have never detected "venom" from you before, auto999 strikes me as odd, she actually COMPLIMENTED me on a thread and said nothing but nice things for me, which i found odd because i at the beginning created threads when the change was made to try to keep out paranoia and complete B.S.

i remember reading things like russian governments hijacked the website to steal credit card information, REALLY? i mean i understand most of us have issues but that to me just seemed like fear-inducing garbage. and ma it might be religiously backed, but i hope you and i are wrong about that. i am an open atheist and i was complimented by auto, hmm, i hope it isnt, i hate relgious persecution of any kind, from believers to non-believers, i think we should all have the right to puiblicly believe whatever we want as long as we dont hurt someone else or ourselves, or force our own views on another.

 

but ma i would recommend that you do not hold back on anything you have about "auto999" one thing a bully hates is exposure as you said yourself, if you have PROOF of other "nicks" accosiated with that person, or other nasty PMs then i agree you should post them so others can see and not be tricked by such pathetic tricks, also i hope you have contacted the administraters, this is an issue for them really, i believe they list an email in the "technical supprt" branch homepage where you can email them. hope all is well

February 16, 2011
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Z -

Here is my dilemma: if I publicly post other PM's which I have received from "Auto999," a great deal of personal data would be inappropriately disclosed about one of the innocent participants on these threads.  I did receive information today which verifies that "Auto999" is one and the same with "Destinystar."   "Auto999" provided me with a phone number which laid a clear (and trackable) trail to Destiny.  I am appalled that anyone on these threads would assume multiple nic's for multiple purposes, including relentless stalking and even LEGAL trouble-making for other posters.  And yet, that is what "Auto/Destiny" has done.

I will have to see if I can "edit" the PM's sent to me by "Auto/Destiny" to protect the personal information of the party she sought to harass.  She definitely attempted to enlist my support in doing it because she had seen evidence on the threads that this other poster did not like me.  Therefore, she assumed I would assist her in persecuting this individual, not realizing that my faith & personal ethics would not allow my participation in such an evil undertaking.

Again, publishing the proof of these statements will require careful presentation on my part, to protect her intended victim.  I am also quite aware that she will seek to retaliate in any way possible.  However, I am also aware that these threads will become infinitely safer for ALL posters, if such toxic and sick behaviors are exposed to all and sundry.   And my heart is to expose the Truth and restore safety to all the Site participants.

-  Ma Strong

February 16, 2011
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----- Forwarded Message ----

From:

To:

Sent: Sat, January 29, 2011 9:16:59 PM

Subject: Violations on My Inner World

Dear

I wanted to inform you of something that is occurring on your website
message boards in the “Share My Journey/Sunshine Café”. A person posting under
the name of “Ma Strong” is referring to a website “AAC” in a message she posted
on 01/29/2011 at around 5pm. The “AAC” she is referring to is
AllAboutCounseling.Com. “Ma Strong” posts as “StronginHim77” on
AllAboutCounseling.Com.

I joined AllAboutCounseling.Com in April 2010. I stumbled across the
site while studying about co-dependency for a graduate school class in my
Master’s of Forensic Psychology program. I joined in the discussion boards and
engaged interactions with the other members. After a few months, I started to realize
that this is not a supportive mental health and counseling site as it claims to
be. “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” has made claims that she is a licensed counselor
and therapist, as well as a minister and ordained chaplain. Because the site
required anonymity from members for many, many years, I could only take what
she said by her word, as I only had that to verify her claims. I found many
inconsistencies in her statements. Then she would not confirm or deny if she
was a licensed therapist or counselor. It was very confusing. I began to
question in my mind if she was speaking the truth.

 “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” would respond to members’ requests for
help and advice by offering diagnoses to either the members who were posting,
family members of the members who were sharing their stories, or anyone else,
even if people did not ask for advice. She would often talk rudely or condemn
people if they did not follow her advice. She would pretty much attack people
and make judgments about their choices if they did not do exactly as she
suggested. Her standard diagnoses were Borderline Personality Disorder,
Anti-Social Personality Disorder/Sociopath, and Narcissistic Personality
Disorder. She would describe symptoms and criteria to back up these claims.

Because I study the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental
Disorders (DSM-IV), I realized that some of the information she was giving out
was not entirely correct. I responded to some of her postings by explaining in
the main forum that it was unethical, irresponsible, detrimental and dangerous
for her or anyone there to diagnose anyone on an anonymous website. I explained
that a proper diagnosis requires a face-to-face clinical interview, assessment
and psychological testing. I stated that an on-line anonymous website is the
improper forum to attempt to diagnose or treat anyone for any mental disorder.

After I started questioning her in further detail, and confronting her
with these matters, to include her condemnation of people’s religious beliefs
or lack thereof, she began to personally attack me on a fairly regular basis.
She began stalking me on the threads, criticizing me, mocking me and insulting
me. At the time, the site was in transition of ownership and there was clearly
not a moderator there for at least 6 months. After the site was sold, a person
posting with the name “Chelonia Mydas” announced she was leaving AAC and she
invited people there to join her at “My Inner World” and directed everyone to
the Sunshine Café that she created under “Share the Journey”. She told people
that they could find her as “Chelonia.” There was a controversy surrounding AAC
that is cited by Paul Elam, which describes unethical and unlawful tactics by
the old management, and some of the previous members who suffered damaging effects
from their experiences on AAC.

In the recent weeks, “Ma Strong’s” attacks against me have gotten
quite vicious, to where other members began to rally and attack me as well. I
started to have thoughts of leaving the site, so I thought about coming over to
“My Inner World.” I found my way to the Sunshine Café and read “Ma Strong’s”
post tonight, describing AAC as not a safe place anymore, and that sociopaths,
narcissists and trolls were taking over. She presented the story as she was the
one being attacked. I am sure she is referring to me (although not by name) as
one of the “sociopaths, narcissists and trolls” who is attacking her.

As a psychology student, I recognize the emotional and mental damage
that this person known as “Ma Strong/StronginHim77” could cause to a huge
number of people, especially wounded, vulnerable, and damaged people.

I have no legal duty to report this to you, but I feel that ethically,
I cannot stay silent and allow this person to disrupt the harmony and
peacefulness of your website, and to use it in a manner to defame and incite
hatred, rage and vengeance to innocent members who are seeking a refuge for
solace and spiritual connection. I hope you honor my wish to remain anonymous,
as this was something I valued while being a member of AAC.

I wish peace for you and I thank you for allowing me to take this
opportunity to enlighten you regarding this situation.

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StronginHim77 said:    HERE IS THE PERSON THAT SAID THEY WERE REPORTING YOU TO ADMIN.

I think I need a Barf Bag….because reactions are So IMPORTANT…and
peace with blessings….

Love Overflowing***gee this punction is complicated, In a Messed Up
Sort of WAY…

 

Blessings, Dahlings,

Ma

 

Greetings StronginHim77~

I came to Post Inspiration to Boost Morale~ Gosh didn't think a Barf Bag
was needed but Admin can help You with that. Hope that cures all which ails…
& so right… what You said: *reactions So IMPORTANT*… so I will let Admin
react to You feeling ill lately… Hope Your Hostility with me can be
helped… Have a Mahvelous Night! (You are more than Welcome to use that Word
again if You feel led to)

Have a Great One Everybody… Blessings~

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"I feel that when Ma and Curious came in here and attacked
me, they basically brought the fight with me on Curious's thread over here and
they  puked all over me and then left. "

A post that china doll wrote about ma on this site  

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January 26, 2011

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 A Post China Doll wrote on this site claiming Ma was saying "something to attack" her

 

 

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Curious,

It was not my intention to make you feel uncomfortable, first of all. I
will say that there was something that made me very uncomfortable today. I go
on to your thread, and I read about how you are giving me positive feedback
when I said my goal is to pursue my doctorate degree. And, then I read
a post that Ma wrote, something about “fur flying”, and then I come on
here and she says something to attack me. What I read on your thread was a
clear threat, and then I figured out that it was pointed toward me. You have
spoken about your empathy. Put yourself in my shoes for a minute. Could you
imagine how that would make a person feel?  I face threats every day in
my job. And then I find it here. Well, at least here, I don’t have to worry
about getting shot. But, I guess that is ok with everyone. Especially coming
from someone who says she is a minister. Threatening like she is going to
fight? Seriously?

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"Instead, you attack me and threaten me."  Another post China Doll made on this site to ma 

February 16, 2011
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Back off auto99.

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THIS IS WHERE StronginHim77 claims she knows Gia is Love and Light

 

 

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Gosh, Gaia…excuse me…Loveandlight…sure is uncomfortable when our dirty
laundry airs in public, eh?
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I've seen alot of nonsense on these threads over the years,
but Chinadoll has set herself against me from a position of bitterness &
revenge.  Her vicious posting of Jan. 16th attacked & criticized me on
every, possible level.   As she herself has said, "…I would not
want to tangle with me."  Well put.   Her 1/16/11 posting
would certainly support that statement.  I have no desire to
"tangle" with someone who would stalk, track, dissect and judge me,
as she has done.  A post written by Ma on Bitsys thread on this site 

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I wonder what Camp
Pendleton would have to
say about some of the clawing, hissing and toidy-flushing postings on
this (and other) threads?   Hmmmmm…

It is my (civilian) understanding that the military takes the mental,
emotional and financial stability of their enlisted representatives very
seriously.

-  Ma

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That's not backing off auto99.

 

so you're Destinystar?  Haven't had any beefs with you until now.  This attack on MaStrong is ticking me off.  You don't have to destroy people to feel alive.  You don't have the power to do so anyhow, unless she gives it to you and I suspect she's not going to do that.  So please, stop.

 

Seriously.

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