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March 13, 2005
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it all began when I hired an escort. I hired her for three days, we were to go to a Government function, and well, after we started to talk and get to know each other I fell in love.

On the second day I was so impressed by her that I offered her a job. I couldn't see worj=king as an escort, she was talented, creative, smart, and beautiful. She was 'real' to me.

We discussed her leaving the 'escort' business and working for me. Better still I opened a new business for her in media relations, public relations, since thats what she had studied in University.

I paid off all her student loans, CC and a few other outstanding bills. This women was no little girl, but a 32 year old women who was married to a guy that let her 'escort' so that they could get by.

After setting her up, the problems began whereby she could not leave her husband. Oh, before I go too far, other than the first two days I hired her, I never slept with her. Once I made up my mind to 'take' care of her, I treated her like a young womam.

Our relationship was odd to say the least, I gave her all the room she needed to get her job down, I gave her a CEO salary, a new car, and spending money.

I took her on business trips, she got to meet some very improtant people in Politics and the entertaiment industry.

I purchase self help books for her, and she made it seem like she realy appreciated the fact that over the last year, she had someone who cared for 'her' and was intune to her. However, when it came to subject related to her husband I refused to listen. I did explain to RJ that I cannot understand how a man could just let you 'escort'. I sad that a man like that has no fortitude, no charater, no 'love' for his wife.

She went on to say that her husband was her soul mate and that she love him more than anything else.

After a few discussions regarding her husband, I started to distence myself, and everytime I did so she would inquire whats wrong.

I tried to keep a level perspective on this, but I am soooo much in love that it hurts.

Well, something very sad happened, someone called her husbands work and said to a co-worker that he was a child molester. RJ assumed that it was me and she walked away from her job and our friendship.

I tried to explain to her that I had nothing to do with that. Since she quit her employment, she has never said, wrote or communicated with me. Its like she just walked away and never looked back. She has contacted three of our friends and said that I called her husbands work. I gave the three friends my side of the sytory and all three are still my friends. But know one has heard from her.

When we broke up, I asked her to return everything that belong to the company and she complied for the most part. She did erase the hard drives and take some things from the office. I then asked for the evening gowns, shoes, jewlery, books, CDs, and alike back.

She retuned som of the items, but not all. I now feel like a (forgive me for the term) Indian giver and I want to make up for my actions. The items she retuned, I gave to a variaty of charities, so I don't have the physical items to return. I did a rough calculation and the items amount to 33 thousnad dollars.

In order for me to make things right, I would like to send her a check for 33 thousand dollars,....

Am I still trying to make things right because its the right thing to do, or am I still being co-dependent?

Am I still in love with her,....YES. But I do understand that she is married, and that there is no possible relationship here. I just want to make things right. I don't want her to go through life believing that I am not a man of my word.

Oh, and the nick name magik, she gave that to me.

can anyone out there please help me to fiqure this out.

March 13, 2005
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OK my friend, perhaps from one Limerent to another......."You can take the girl out of the city, but you can't take the city out of the girl". I have experienced something simular in my past and I finally realized during that encounter that to persist in desiring or continuing to have passionate love for someone who does not or cannot requite my affections is surely a lost cause.

I know it sounds simplistic but as soon as I read your first two paragraphs, I already knew the ending of the story.
All our best intentions of assisting some folks in bettering themselves msy be in vain if we do not truly understand their life style and intentions.
I know falling in love with someone will surely confused the issue of their background and the possibility of being set up. The phone call to the boyfriend's employer may be in fact a setup.

It would take me an hour to relate my past experience in a simular situation such as yours and it included dealing with the FBI and the Police.

I say this with best intentions in mind for you. Run, don't walk to the nearest exit and take your heart off you sleeve and put it back where it belongs until you meet a more deserving person to share your life with.

I believe you're too good a dude to be caught up in a situation like this.

March 13, 2005
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One thing about stripper/escort's in general, they get what they want and when, after they've closed the deal, they're done. You should be too.
Look inside yourself and you'll find you deserve better and if you look a little deeper, say from an outsider's point of view, you may just have to face up to the fact that you may have made a mistake. Don't fret it, we all do.
So, NO, don't send her 33k! Have more respect for yourself than that.

March 13, 2005
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With all my respect, I DO THINK that you may have being set up. I know some of them, I know that they choose that life stile because (whether we understand or not) is very comfortable and appealing, in their minds, that kind of life.

March 13, 2005
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I don't think you should send her the money. She got plenty out of the arrangement as it was- you certainly don't owe her that and I don't think it would make a difference in the situation. To her it was probably all business and she got as much as she could. Sorry your emotions got involved.

March 14, 2005
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Magik it looks like I'm back for a second rant as I woke up this morning worrying about you and your situation as it brough back some of my flashbacks.

If you don't mind, here is my humble opinions on your text by paragraph:

Para #1: I am not sure how someone falls in love within three days, but sometimes a person in her profession known as "the bait" comes on strongly to the "mark" in order to extract further favors.

Para #2: Sure she talked the talk and presented herself as underdeveloped, talented, creative, smart and I am sure she was beautiful. All the things that you may wish in a real relationship, but it is also called "the hook".

Para #3: This is classic co-dependency and the result of falling in love.

Para #4: She probably didn't even ask for you to do a payoff on her debts as perhaps you believed that it would provide a fresh start for her. In addition, her lover may also be her business partner.

Para #5: She probably never has any intentions of leaving her husband and was enjoying the ride with her new found success. You should have atleast slept with her on a regular basis to receive something for your efforts.

Para #6: A Bookkeeper's salary would have been sufficient and throwing money and perks at her did not make her return you affection.

Para #7: The business trips probably worked out for both of you.

Para #8: Another classic co-dependency and you really knew nothing about her husband if that's what he was, and you only knew him through what she told you.

Para #9: A real red flag here. That comment from her is all you needed to pack it in and move on.

Para #10: Distancing yourself through fustration of her solid relationship with her partner did attract her attention. Unfortunately, with did not alter the course of events or change her mind.

Para #11: So much in love, I agree and this surely affected you perception of reality.

Para #12 & #13: This may or may not have happened and in fact may be a ploy to continue to milk the cash cow, so to speak. Be very careful as this incident may reappear in the future and you may want to consider contacting your attorney. Just a precaution.

Para #14 & #16: Requesting the return of company property is justified, however, I would not require the return of personal gifts as they were given in the spirit of love and affection. I would not have attempted to turn that past around and give the appearance of sour grapes.

Para #17: Please, don't even consider sending anything as it will not change anything and you have already paid enough in monies, time and emotions.

Para #18: Yes, you are an over the edge co-dependent and you do not need to make anything right as you are the victim and if anyone needs to right the situation it is her and that is unlikely to happen.

Para #19: I'm sure that you are still very much in love and keep in mind that it is only you that is in love with her. Her husband or partner has nothing to do with her not returning your affections.
Since she walked out of your life, without a word, a thank you or a glance backwards, you do not owe her anything and who cares what she thinks?

Para #20: For your oun good delete all thoughts of your mostly one sided relationship. When you are able to focus more effectively, you will see that there were more negatives in this encounter than positive events.

Sorry about the bluntness, but she may reappear in your life some where in the future and beg forgiveness. I trust that you the kind of person that holds a strong sense of self-esteem and respect for yourself and not fall for an encore of her past events.
Good luck.

March 14, 2005
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I sign my name "notsure" as there are always different perspectives to an interpretation of a situation or story and I only give my perspective based on my experiences. However in your case....DO NOT SEND HER ANY MONEY..... Definitely sure!!

March 14, 2005
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Magik,
I agree with the others, DO NOT send her money. She has received too much from you already, including your heart. Time to take care of you and move on....

Bonita 🙂

March 14, 2005
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I want to thank all of you thus far.

I am no wimp, but now I recognize that I am week. My back ground is one of many personal successes. I served my country as a MP, Provo Corps, I put myself through University, I started a company and took it public, and along with that I head up a UN Canadian peace keeping effort. I am no newbie at life, yet my experience with this escort, who stopped escorting when I came a long was something that I could not foresee or evaluate.

I am able to handle almost anything, but this took me for a loop.

Taking the escorting issue out of the equation, she is a wonderful, wonderful person. She has dreams, and plans that she never had the opportunity to fulfill. Her husband can't keep a job, and that's why she went escorting, to pay the bills. He’s a stand up comic that is trying to make ‘it’. He is also a animated artist who can’t draw. He is now a salesman for a shopping channel. Others who know him says that he is a nice guy, and funny. They met in University and have been together for 12 years. And as I see it, if he really loved her, then why didn’t he do all he can to prevent her from going out as an escort? Why didn’t he get a 8$ hour job, or two or even three jobs to make ends meet. And if he could work because he chose not to work at a low end job, why didn’t he try to find an argument to convince her that what she was about to do could cause her harm? Appeal to her on a intellectual level, or appeal to her woman-hood, protecting her emotional and physical being? None of this makes any sense. I would give my life for a woman like that. Yet, she fails to see, what I believe to be a mental and psychological manipulation.

Again, I am a proud man and someone who gets things done, yet I have a soft side. I write poetry, I enjoy the theater; I travel and enjoy the finer things in life. I am also an environmentalist, and I have my own funded charity whereby I give money to animal shelters and to organizations that protect our environment that are not politically linked or already supported by a religious organization. RJ was all part of that.

I work with animal rescue operations and do what I can to be a friend. I do not have it in me to be anything other than a gentlemen. So, what did I do wrong?

Here this escort, (young lady) and I got along so great,....we had a lot in common, and we did get along and have fun --as friends--. Yes, I was in love with her, but I did respect that she was married.

Other than asking her not to bring up her husband, there were no limits to our friendship. She could criticize, comment or disagree without fear of being put down. I gave her all the room she needed, and I did not interfere with her personal life. In fact she is in one city and I am in another, we are 400 miles apart.

I would see her every 2 weeks and we would email and call almost every day. We took one trip to Calgary for a week and she had her own room, and we conducted our business and in the evenings we took the long walks and had the dinners out. She and I shared everything other than the bed room. We talked about issues and matters that most couples don’t even discuss. Our creative curves our intellect matched and we spared on all kinds of topics. I know that she was having fun because I could see it in her.

You know, its funny, I speak at public functions all the time and people come to me for advice,.....but now its me who is lost in a quandary.

What did I do, or what could I have done to make this work out?

Thanks again for all those who passed on their comments,...even the blunt ones : ) Its going to take time. I have dated two women since last October and each time I am out on the date I can’t get RJ out of my mind. She may have been an escort, but she is also a person, a woman with hopes and dreams. A woman that I am still in love with. : (

Magik.

March 14, 2005
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You sound like a succesfull person and a true humanitarian. I'm in the process of starting my business as well so, I look up to and I'm inspired by those who have done this !!
You seem to be generous in helping out the hurt and not so well off animals but, guess what ??
RJ is no animal. She is a woman who has been capable of making her own choices in life. She put herself through school so, why can't she get herself a job. Oh, wait a minute, she did get herself a job, an escort. I heard there is a lot of money to be made in that business. Your proof of that. I'm sorry to come off so harsh but, it just to simple to not see it.
A good woman, or person for that mater, will never just take someones money and walk away, that's what a thief does.
I feel your pain but, holding on only makes it worse !!

March 14, 2005
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What did I do, or what could I have done to make this work out?

Nothing. You were totally and utterly taken advantage of. I understand that you were thinking of someone else, you really sound like a stand-up kinda person -- but....I am incredulous. You seem quite experienced, yet, in contrast - totally like you just "fell off the turnip truck"?!?

Is this a troll post? Hmmmm. I am suspicious. And you SHOULD have been suspicious. Never trust a woman who has the capacity to sell her body for money. If you can sell your body and sex for money, goddman if you haven't already sold your soul.

March 14, 2005
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Cici, good morning and thanks for your comments.

They say love is blind. Well I was blind, BIG TIME!!!

She would express herself in ways of reaching out looking for help, to change, to get out of the escorting world. I fell for it!

I believed her. She would say things like she would feel like an 'ugly duckling' and express herself as trying to fianaly accomplish something meaningful in life. I guess, I didn't believe that people could be so mean. To cause harm in this fashion is really demented.

I have had people rip me off in the past, ie. business associates, friends, etc,....and you know, what goes around comes around, the rule of three.

But having this happen, I guess I have to wake up and smell the coffee.

Why would someone do such a thing is beyond me. I feel like a Forrest Gump.

Thanks for the complement Cici, I am a stand up guy, and people have always counted on me. Well a lifes lesson learned the hard way,....now only to get her out of my mind, soul and spirit. She took my heart so there is not much left.

Thanks again, everyone!

Magik

March 14, 2005
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I don't know here - to me it sounds like you were trying to "take care" of her and buy her love.

She loved her husband, she told you that but you continued to "help" her because you thought perhaps she would eventually love you back and leave her husband??

I'm asking here...not assuming.

Take a good look and ask why you were doing all these things for her? You wanted to help her, change her, control her, make her love you.....all very codependent characteristics.

Don't send a check, since she returned the items, it seems they didn't have value to her. She wants to be with her husband, then let her. You can't change who she is or what she wants.

Did she ask for any of the things you offered her/gave her???? If not, I don't see you being taken advantage of.

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March 14, 2005
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traclyn,

thanks for your comments,....ouch : )

and your question was though provoking,...

"Did she ask for any of the things you offered her/gave her???? If not, I don't see you being taken advantage of."

I had invited her to attend a Black Tie Gala, and she didn't have a evening gown to wear. In fact when I first met her she was using a safety pin to hold up her slacks.

Thus, I sent her shopping. I did not go shopping with her, she took her girl friends, (they don't know that she was an escort) and purchased a two thousand dollar evening gown that was very stunning. She looked like a princess. On top of that the ruby shoes and jewelry. We attended four Gala's this past year and each time I she went out to pick up sometime new. And I was fine with that.

On top of that because she did not have a wardrobe for the office I had her purchase some close for work. Once and a while when out she would see something and I would purchase it for her. And she appreciated the small gifts.

I would also like to mention that I did set up a mediator between her and myself. I hired a business consultant to work with her so that I didn't have to interact with RJ on a daily basis, but RJ missed interacting with me and she didn't get along with the consultant. (this consultant is from one of Canada's best business Universities and she happen to be a good friend of mine)

Then I asked another of my CEO's to mentor her, and she didn't like him,...and this guy is harmless, he is much like James Earl Jones type of personality and looks.

Then last spring two of her four of her cats took ill and had to be put a sleep, I gave her 5 weeks off to take care of herself. Her cats were like children to her, and she took it very, very, very hard.

When she returned to work, I asked a friend of hers, who had a MBA, if he would be interested in working along with her. I felt that this would be perfect because she thought a lot him and since they were friends this would work out. But RJ refused to work with him.

Finally, things between us where getting complicated so I asked my most trusted VP to mentor RJ. RJ agreed. After two days RJ calls and emails me to 'fix this' that she didn't agree to have me completely out of the picture.

I did whatever I could to -yes- help her. Yes she knew that I had feelings for her, and that I would keep my distance. We did attend Gala's together and see plays and Rock concerts and alike. We had a good time as friends,....

But now this,....am I that much of a fool?

Maybe so, and I have to work on being less naive.

Thanks again for your question, as far as a clear answer; I think RJ and I are both at fault. And that is why I am wondering, should I try and make up for being such a fool. I have never acted like this before, and then again, I have never loved someone as so much.

Magik

March 14, 2005
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You must have had a good childhood, dude -- lucky!!!!

I am suspicious of people from the get-go.

See, my best friend, a female, is a stripper - not an escort, but she definately TOTALLY takes advantage of guys, and does it really almost subconsciously. She expects to use herself to buy her way through life. It's bizarre, not sick, though -- we like in a "buyer beware" world.

But hoe much $$ you spend on someone doesn't equate to how much THEY should want to change/how good they should feel about themselves.

March 14, 2005
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Cici

Thanks for you comment,...unlike you I am not suspicious of other people unless I have reason to. I am a rather trusting person. I give people the benefit of the doubt and I try not to judge people.

As far as my youth, I was abandon when I was 6 and I grew up in a foster home. My step father was a tyrant, ( I have the broken bones and bruises to prove it) and my step mom was not much of a home maker. I did everything for everyone. It was a big 'family' and I was the only step kid. The outsider. I was the peace maker, the child adult, the one that took care of things.

So life was not easy for me. I put myself through school and I made my own fortunes. I have NEVER asked for a hand out and I have worked at some rotten and poor paying jobs just to make ends meet. I have pumped gas, worked in a dry cleaners, did yard work and did what ever I could knowing that I am my own person.

I owe no one. And this is my dilemma. I feel that I owe RJ because I failed to be balanced when she walked away. What did I do, that made her feel that walking away was a better solution?

And about the money spent, that's not the issue, its only money. If she wanted an expensive dress, then so be it. If she wanted fancy shoes, and fine jewelry then I was fine with that. I let her purchase what she wanted.

The issue here is mixing business with friendship. How could we have separate the two?

Each time I tried, she came back to say that she missed me. So is that all part of the manipulation, or did she really have feelings for me?

Cici, your comments are sure to be colorful, I look forward to reading them,

Thanks again,

Magik

March 14, 2005
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The issue here is boundaries. You are not responsible for clothing her or shoeing her (hah). She is. I am the personal assistant of a high level administrator at a university and she doesn't buy me clothes, nor would it be appropriate if she did, nor would I ACCEPT them if she did. She takes me out to lunch once in a blue moon and occassionally buys me things from south america, central america, or europe when she goes on business trips.

There are several guidelines out there for professional boundaries. The relationship you had with this woman sounds like a "dry affair" as they say - all the emotional trappings of an affair without the sex (after the first two encounters). I would venture to guess that her husband demanded the interactions cease in order to save their marriage.

In the university I work at, if my boss did cross a line, I would have an entire building of staff to back me up in legal proceedings against her, so count yourself lucky.

And I would advise you to stop trusting people so readily. Users are ubiquitous in this world. This was one of them.

My stripper friend has a "sugar daddy" as she calls him - he helps her with bills, her car, buys her things sometimes, sometimes they go on trips. She always gets her own room and they haven't ever had sex. But she still calls him her sugar daddy, so obviously she cares about him on some level but mostly, she uses him. I assumed he understood that but reading your post makes me think that mabe he doesn't.

In any case, don't go buying people things, or doing anything great for them UNLESS THEY EARN YOUR RESPECT FIRST. this DOES NOT mean being a "cool" person or "intelligent and witty" or whatever. This means doing what you did, and working hard (not laying on their back getting f*cked by strangers who pay them $$) to get by and achieve the goals they have set in life.

I mean come on, did she ever indicate that she had any goals beyond attaining material wealth? Any idea of starting her own business/starting a family/buying a house/buying a car/helping others? Or was that all you? I mean come on dude, you have to have experienced the sensation of betrayal and being used before!!!

You can't be THAT innocent as a grown man, dang it! I'm only 25 and I know more about not trusting people.

March 14, 2005
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Hello Cici,

to comment on your response; " did she ever indicate that she had any goals beyond attaining material wealth?" Yes, only at the beginning. The husband issue only came out 6 weeks after I started a company that she wanted. "Any idea of starting her own business/starting a family/buying a house/buying a car/helping others?"

I gave her the business, so that was done so that she could walk away from something she did not want to continue in because it made her feel less than a woman.

She is not into having kids. She doesn't like children, or the responsibility.

Yes she wanted a house, but she didn't want to be house poor,...meaning that she would have to work just to support the house.

As far as the car, she was provided one for the business and she used it all the time. And I didn't care.

As far as helping others, she didn't do much for people, but went out of her way for animals, cats in particular. Horses and farm animals. She and I are both Vegan and we have a strong sense for our environment.

I didn't think of myself as a Sugar Daddy or a Benefactor, but a friend who cared.

The boundaries were respected, and she enjoyed the Gala's, dinners out and such.

I agree with your comments about respect and I too have a personal assistant. She is 26 and a beautiful young lady. I treat her well, but I have never made any advance toward her. She is a friend and a professional. She travel most times with me and stays in a separate room and she works very hard. I hold many meetings and she keeps my schedule,...and yes if she needs to attend an event, there is a budget for close.

RJ was different, she had her own company. I treated her like an equal. When RJ needed to have her space, she had it. Anything RJ and I did together was during business hours. When RJ came to my city for business she stayed in a hotel. Although I have a condo down town and a house in the country, I made sure the RJ was treated as a equal so that she could build up some self pride and confidence. That I was not in this friendship to use her.

The only issue I could not get past was her husband being a (lack of a better word) pimp! Cici, this girl was very sad when I met her, and she was very happy to be in my presence. As friends, we had some really good times. But things got complicated. Perhaps her husband did put his foot down. The not knowing is if it was me or just him or something other that had her walk away.

Again, I thank you for your ever so spirited comments. Maybe I tried to hard.

Magik.

March 14, 2005
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You're not getting it - what did she do to earn the business that you just sorta gave her?

I was talking about this with one of my friends, feeling used because I have shelled out mad wads of cash to people and gotten a big fat pantsfull of nothing in return. Well, he said, you give too much, too fast, without those people warranting that giving.

Again, WHAT did she do to EARN what you gave her? Other than cry about a profession which she obviously chose to engage in. Look, whatever...she did it to make ends meet blah blah blah. I have lived out of my car before, I have eaten canned peas and noodles before, because I had no money. Because I have been offered stripping jobs multiple times, and time and time again I turned them down because I respect myself too much.

A third time....what did she do to earn the things you gave her? Did she have a rare advanced degree or attend a prestigious university? Did she have expertise in a particular area of accounting or marketing that you were unfamiliar with?

March 14, 2005
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It sounds like this woman took advantage of you and your love for her is blinding you to that. You gave her far too much. I does sound like you were trying to buy her love. You owe her nothing. If anything she owes you big time. Do not send her any money. Do not waste time trying to figure her out. You never will. Rather put that energy on figuring you out, why you would give yourself away to someone who didn't love you and just took and took from you?

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Cici,

I can't get over how much your friend, and Magik's (ex) friend sound just like my sister.

She has a sugar daddy too. LOL She doesn't call him that, which I know of.

I care for my sister very much, but the poor men that she uses.

At first I was kinda jealous of her lifestyle... She DOES receive nice things from him. (Whoever he is at the time)

The first sugar daddy of hers that I knew of became her second husband. She knew him from 'the business'.

I dunno if he thought he was invincible or what, but 4 years later, she left him for another guy. Since then there have been (that I know of) 3 men. All at different times mind you. She is never alone.

Oh, and she still has her ex husband (#2) paying for lots of her stuff.

The new guys just pay her rent for her condo, take her on trips, and buy her flowers, candy, food, clothes, you name it.

You should see her c.d. collection! Every song you can basically think of she has.

Oh, and the jewelry!

And these men take care of her doggie too.

All because she never had the chance to go get an education, better herself... etc.

She probably blames it on her first marriage. She was married young, 16.

She also does not have any children. She doesn't really desire them either. Sometimes she will go on her sprees, and buy some baby items, but that phase passes. (Thank God!)

Ok, my rant is done. I'm sorry that I went off.

Amanda

March 14, 2005
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And, again, as far as I know of, she has 'only' had sex with about half of the men. The ones who don't force it on her, (not force as in rape, but imply as in return for their 'love') she doesn't sleep with them at all.

One man was really nice. I liked him. He helped out our family, helped her, and didn’t want sex, (maybe just a friend companion?) he was smart, had his own business...

But she secretly could not stand him! The mean horrible things she would say behind his back.

Oh, but to his face how sweet she was.

He's gone now. I hope he finds a good girl.

March 14, 2005
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I dont think this woman took advantage of you. You gave her everything you wanted to give her, she didnt ask for them did she?

And if you did give it to her why?
How can you meet someone and right off give her anything she asks for?You have a business and money you would think you are pretty balanced in running it and knowing when your being taken advantage of right?

As I see it you met her, liked her and wanted her and you tried to buy her with money, gifts, a car and whatever else her little heart desired.

It didnt work and you dont understand why...........I dont think she ever intended to leave her husband, when she saw that you would do anything you could for her she took it and why not it was given freely.

IM sorry your hurting and that it did't work out for you the way you wanted it to.

Be more careful with your feelings and your money as there are alot of takers out there and not givers.

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March 14, 2005
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I dont think this woman took advantage of you. You gave her everything you wanted to give her, she didnt ask for them did she?

Wellllll....prostitutes don't ask for money. Strippers don't ask for guys to shove dollar bills in their face.

A woman who has class does not accept gifts that are unwanted or unwarranted. A woman who respects herself will not sell her company and time to someone in return for expensive gifts, trips, and money.

That's like saying, "she deserved to be raped, she was wearing a miniskirt!"

Come on, bel. That wasn't fair.

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bel,

To expand on Cici's analogy, that's like saying "Magik deserved to be used, he was obviously asking for it".

There is no question that some people are takers, but that does not mean that it is ever ok to behave like that.

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