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December 29, 2005
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Someone wants to introduce me to the perfect girl but she has genital warts. I know what it is but what does that mean. What does it do?

December 29, 2005
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yuck. She can have them removed... but she can also give them to you. lovely.

December 29, 2005
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Wow, thats a lot to handle. How did you find out about this before even meeting her. I would think she owuld have rather had this come from her own self!

Well, look at it this way, she could have been with the same partner for a long time, the person could have cheated and given her the disease.

If you are looking for more than just sex and think that you can look beyond that, why not meet the person?
What harm can be done?

December 29, 2005
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ya know, some stuff is just obvious as to what to do, and best handled confidentially. It just doesn't need to be here.....does it? I must be too new. This is the first thread i've made a face at, so I just had to speak my mind I guess. No offence meant be this, it's just that this should be handled personally to me, not here. I don't know.

Regards, Dalpuz

December 29, 2005
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Dapulz- I think that is why I said how did they find out? I mean this is a personal thing that should only come from the person. Was he told I have the perfect girl for you but she has herpes?

December 29, 2005
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I guess......I guess the more I shop these stories...the more I realize it's for kinds of problems. My apologies....I guess lol I'm . .

December 29, 2005
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eww. sorry. that just came out.

i think that is a lot to handle and you may not want to go there.

If you do, talk to a doctor about medical ramifications, and as always practice abstinence or safe sex.

but, truthfully, is it worth all that for somebody you don't as yet know????

December 29, 2005
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Warts are a virus. Viruses spread. Some people can get them, some people don't. There are no perfect people.
If this bothers you then don't get involved.

December 29, 2005
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Okay, was gonna keep my mouth shut, but just have to chime in here.

Bonita, I have to respectfully disagree your thought of it "being worth it." This could be the woman of your dreams. Or not. Who knows? She could have contracted this through no fault of her own. Agreed, that there are many ways to handle this through safe sex or abstinence.

I would say, at the very least, don't "shun the leper" before you meet her. Besides, you might not be what she wants either. Or, you all might not hit it off romantically, but could become good friends.

December 29, 2005
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FYI

July 2004

Human Papillomavirus and Genital Warts
WHAT IS HUMAN PAPILLOMAVIRUS?
Human papillomavirus (HPV) is one of the most common causes of sexually transmitted infection (STI) in the world. More than 100 different types of HPV exist, most of which are harmless. About 30 types are spread through sexual contact. Some types of HPV cause genital warts—single or multiple bumps that appear in the genital areas of men and women including the vagina, cervix, vulva (area outside of the vagina), penis, and rectum. Many people infected with HPV have no symptoms.

There are high-risk and low-risk types of HPV. High-risk HPV may cause abnormal Pap smear results, and could lead to cancers of the cervix, vulva, vagina, anus, or penis. Low-risk HPV also may cause abnormal Pap results or genital warts.

Health experts estimate there are more cases of genital HPV infection than any other STI in the United States. According to the American Social Health Association, approximately 5.5 million new cases of sexually transmitted HPV infections are reported every year. At least 20 million people in this country are already infected.

WHAT ARE GENITAL WARTS?

Genital warts (sometimes called condylomata acuminata or venereal warts) are the most easily recognized sign of genital HPV infection. Many people, however, have a genital HPV infection without genital warts.

Genital warts are soft, moist, or flesh colored and appear in the genital area within weeks or months after infection. They sometimes appear in clusters that resemble cauliflower-like bumps, and are either raised or flat, small or large. Genital warts can show up in women on the vulva and cervix, and inside and surrounding the vagina and anus. In men, genital warts can appear on the scrotum or penis. There are cases where genital warts have been found on the thigh and groin.

CAN HPV CAUSE OTHER KINDS OF WARTS?

Some types of HPV cause common skin warts, such as those found on the hands and soles of the feet. These types of HPV do not cause genital warts.

HOW ARE GENITAL WARTS SPREAD?

Genital warts are very contagious and are spread during oral, vaginal, or anal sex with an infected partner. They are transmitted by skin-to-skin contact during vaginal, anal, or (rarely) oral sex with someone who is infected. About two-thirds of people who have sexual contact with a partner with genital warts will develop warts, usually within 3 months of contact.

In women, the warts occur on the outside and inside of the vagina, on the opening to the uterus (cervix), or around the anus.

In men, genital warts are less common. If present, they usually are seen on the tip of the penis. They also may be found on the shaft of the penis, on the scrotum, or around the anus.

Rarely, genital warts also can develop in your mouth or throat if you have oral sex with an infected person.

Like many STIs, genital HPV infections often do not have signs and symptoms that can be seen or felt. One study sponsored by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) reported that almost half of women infected with HPV had no obvious symptoms. If you are infected but have no symptoms, you can still spread HPV to your sexual partner and/or develop complications from the virus.

HOW ARE HPV AND GENITAL WARTS DIAGNOSED?

Your health care provider usually diagnoses genital warts by seeing them. If you are a woman with genital warts, you also should be examined for possible HPV infection of the cervix.

Your provider may be able to identify some otherwise invisible warts in your genital tissue by applying vinegar (acetic acid) to areas of your body that might be infected. This solution causes infected areas to whiten, which makes them more visible. In some cases, a health care provider will take a small piece of tissue from the cervix and examine it under the microscope.

If you have an abnormal Pap smear result, it may indicate the possible presence of cervical HPV infection. A laboratory worker will examine cells scraped from your cervix under a microscope to see if they are cancerous.

HOW ARE HPV AND GENITAL WARTS TREATED?

HPV has no known cure. There are treatments for genital warts, though they often disappear even without treatment. There is no way to predict whether the warts will grow or disappear. Therefore, if you suspect you have genital warts, you should be examined and treated, if necessary.

Depending on factors such as the size and location of your genital warts, your health care provider will offer you one of several ways to treat them.

• Imiquimod cream
• 20 percent podophyllin antimitotic solution
• 0.5 percent podofilox solution
• 5 percent 5-fluorouracil cream
• Trichloroacetic acid (TCA)

If you are pregnant, you should not use podophyllin or podofilox because they are absorbed by your skin and may cause birth defects in your baby. In addition, you should not use 5-fluorouracil cream if you are expecting.

If you have small warts, your health care provider can remove them by one of three methods.

• freezing (cryosurgery)
• burning (electrocautery)
• laser treatment

If you have large warts that have not responded to other treatment, you may have to have surgery to remove them.

Some health care providers use the antiviral drug alpha interferon, which they inject directly into the warts, to treat warts that have returned after removal by traditional means. The drug is expensive, however, and does not reduce the rate that the genital warts return.

Although treatments can get rid of the warts, none get rid of the virus. Because the virus is still present in your body, warts often come back after treatment.

HOW CAN HPV INFECTION BE PREVENTED?

The only way you can prevent getting an HPV infection is to avoid direct contact with the virus, which is transmitted by skin-to-skin contact. If you or your sexual partner has warts that are visible in the genital area, you should avoid any sexual contact until the warts are treated.

Research studies have not confirmed that male latex condoms prevent transmission of HPV, but studies do suggest that using condoms may reduce your risk of developing diseases linked to HPV, such as genital warts and cervical cancer. Unfortunately, many people who don’t have symptoms don’t know that they can spread the virus to an uninfected partner.

POSSIBLE COMPLICATIONS OF HPV AND GENITAL WARTS

Cancer

Some types of HPV can cause cervical cancer. Other types are associated with vulvar cancer, anal cancer, and cancer of the penis (a rare cancer).

Most HPV infections do not progress to cervical cancer. If you are a woman with abnormal cervical cells, a Pap test will detect them. If you have abnormal cervical cells, it is particularly important for you to have regular pelvic exams and Pap tests so you can be treated early, if necessary.

Pregnancy and Childbirth

Genital warts may cause a number of problems during pregnancy. Sometimes they get larger during pregnancy, making it difficult to urinate. If the warts are in the vagina, they can make the vagina less elastic and cause obstruction during delivery.

Rarely, infants born to women with genital warts develop warts in their throats (laryngeal papillomatosis). Although uncommon, it is a potentially life-threatening condition for the child, requiring frequent laser surgery to prevent obstruction of the breathing passages. Research on the use of interferon therapy with laser surgery indicates that this drug may show promise in slowing the course of the disease.

RESEARCH

Scientists are doing research on two types of HPV vaccines. One type would be used to prevent infection or disease (warts or pre-cancerous tissue changes). The other type would be used to treat cervical cancers. Researchers are testing both types of vaccines in people.

December 29, 2005
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Thanks for the input. I know this is a sensitive subject. I feel badly because I don't think I am going to meet her. Maybe if I had found out after I got to know her it would be less of an issue. I don't think I am being shallow. I just don't want to complicate my life any further.

December 29, 2005
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I think you should be able to post whatever you feel like talking about. If it offends some people then they should skip over it. We are all human and this is a virus.

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It's all about what works for you. If it's too much of an issue for you, it's too much of an issue. There should be no moral judgment of that.

To thine own self be true.

December 29, 2005
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So what is an "acceptable" way to catch an STD?

Artist2 and Bonita, I found your post to be extremely offensive and hurtful to me personally (although I'm sure you didn't mean it as a slam on anyone here). Shame on you both for your judgemental and narrow minded views.

I myself have herpes, and I am sensitive and ashamed about it precisely because of the sentiments like the one you expressed above. But you know what? It's not who I am. And I AM WORTH getting to know, regardless of my virus. Recently, I started seeing a man who was kind and loving, and as I saw us progressing towards intimacy, I informed him of my virus, and you know what he said? "This changes nothing. I think you're an amazing person and I'm so glad that I got to know you."

Unless you're a virgin, there's only one reason that all of you don't have an STD: you're damn lucky.

December 29, 2005
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Hopeful,

I'm not sure who told you that this girl has genital warts but two things come to mind.....First, how do you know that it's true? Second, even if it is true, whoever told you had absolutely no right to do so. That information is her personal, private business, and should not be fodder for gossip.

I can't say as I blame you for not wanting to get involved knowing what you know before even meeting her. But having said that, I too have an STD. And I think anyone would be a fool to not get to know me.

I am not a permiscuous person...never have been. I also used protection (watch their mouths people). I got it because the person I was with was too much of a coward to tell me the truth.

It is something that I have lived with for the past 8 years and something that I will have to live with for the rest of my life.

For those of you who say, "yuck" and "ewwww"......be careful..... 3 out of 5 people have what I have and most never show any symptoms. Even more have genital warts. I would hate for someone, someday to be saying "yuck" when referring to you.

Take care,
Lolli

December 29, 2005
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I believe they have just tested a vaccine against HPV.

December 29, 2005
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As a few posted so articulately and very well, It is EXTREMELY common, and statistically like 4/10 womwn get this, Men are usually asymptomatic, meaning they can carry this w/ out ever knowing they have it and are passing it on.. a great reason to always use protection.. but in reality, it just doesnt happen enough.
It is quite treatable, and "removable.. especialy IF "Found" early..if left untreated, Ive seen many young women have a huge amount of their cervix's removed((I worked as a CMA in a GYn office for over 2 years)) and sometimes, if the woman isnt religous about keeping her annual exam these abnormal pap smears CAN and do lead to cervical cancer.
As you can see from al the posts it is a very personal thing, and I'd wonder about the credibility, and "honorableness" of the person who so willingly gave up this info abouttheir friend... It may have been done as a "heads up" friend thing for you, but the fact that this person was obviously trusted as a confidante by the one who has this is a little diturbing, and I would feel betrayed by this.

Anywaaay... if she is someone you may be interested in starting a relationship with... I wouldnt bring it up on the forst date or anything.. she may very well have been treated already and want to put it behind her...
at any rate, I dont think it's worth writing her off for having.

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I appreciate the openess and honesty.

December 29, 2005
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(((hopeful)))
I hope you feel better with some knowledge of the virus, and still are considering the source... what a loaded thing to lay on you... "the perfect girl" followed by such personal details of a VERY COMMON and yet super personal thing...
I am curious((But dont expect u to reply)) because that is also personal... as to what you will choose to do.. I do wish you, the person who was so vocal about this and the "perfect girl" the best of luck, and happiness, wether it's meant t obe or not, youre wanting to get info about this is an admirable thing t odo before coming to a decision, and I commend you for that!!!

Kindest regards
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I was going to copy and paste all the stuff mj did. There are over 100 different types. Lots of people have them and don't even know it. Usually they can be rather easily treated in a variety of ways.

I had them about 20 years ago courtesy of an old lover. They were so tiny, they couldn't be seen. But I could feel them when I washed - sort of rough and bumpy. Ob/gyn kept saying nothing was there and I kept insisting it was. She finally diagnosed them. Since they were the low risk kind, she didn't want to treat them at all. But, I wanted them gone, so I waited for hours in line at a community STD clinic to be painted with acid. They haven't returned. My annual pap smears are always normal.

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mishy, that is good to know. I am surprised that your gyn did not want to treat them because they can cause sterility or cervical cancer (from what I understand).

whidbey, I was merely stating that since hopeful already has too much information (tmi) of a personal nature about this person, he has the opportunity to make a choice. Should he or shouldn't he? This is his dilemma.

In my opinion, there is no crime in wanting to meet/not wanting to meet someone who has genital warts. Whether or not you should have been told, hopeful, is another issue. In my opinion, that was unfair of that person/friend to lay that on you. Whether I think she is being "judged" as to how she has this condition is a seperate issue. Personally, I believe that is her business and nobody else's. She might be mortified to find out that you were told so much about her before even meeting you and SHE might not want to meet you!!!

The point is that you know this info (for better or worse), hopeful, and you may or may not want to take it on. Its your personal choice. As you mentioned, the choice would have been easier to make if you had already met her and become friends before you knew this info. (and that the info had come from her)

But you know it now and you may not want to meet her. That is your choice and there should be no shame (in my opinion) in saying, "Thanks but no thanks."

For those of you who were hurt by my reaction in my prior post, I deeply apologize. That was not my intent.

But, hopeful, you did ask for my opinion (and the opinion of others on this site) and IN MY OPINION you should consider whether you want to "go there" or not.

She could be a wonderful person, I am not arguing that, but you shouldn't be made to feel badly if you decide to pass. That is YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE.

IMHO

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Bonita,

I'm sure that you didn't intend to be hurtful and I happen to agree that I probably would not want to get involved with someone, knowing that information before I even met them. Nor do I think that Hopeful should feel bad if he decides not to meet her. And I have an STD! Believe me, if I had known before, I wouldn't have gone there. Not because of the virus itself, but because the person that I got it from was not someone that I would be willing to take that risk with. He was not someone that I was in love with, or someone that I wanted to spend my life with. He was a friend (or so I thought) and I was going through a hard time. I was lonely, he was lonely and one thing led to another. Not exactly a romance novel.

However, I am thankful for the few that followed him, including my current b/f, who got to know me, and saw past the fact that I have a virus.

As I said, I know that you are a kind person and didn't mean to be hurtful. But your comment was hurtful. As Ginger said...it is hard enough knowing that we have this virus. Despite the fact that so many people have it, there is still a stigma and a sense of shame attached to it, and comments like yours just add to that shame.

The virus that I have is the same virus as chicken pox, shingles, and "cold sores" (that people walk around with on their faces all the time), but when it is below the belt, we are deemed "untouchable"

Anyway, I know that I am rambling here, I just want you and anyone else that sees people with STD's as "less than", that we are not less than. We are people that got a virus, so small you can fit 1,000,000 of them on the period at the end of this sentence and it does not define who we are.

I hope that I made my point here, that perhaps you and others could just think about it before you judge.

Take care,
Lolli

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Hi, lolli,

Yes, I agree the "ew" was hurtful and once again I apologize. I was not judging people who have it, or how they got it or anything like that. It was simply a knee jerk reaction to having anything that painful in such a sensitive area. Ouch!

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(((bonita)))

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(((((((bonBon& Lolli))))))))))
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