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Shaney
September 26, 2008
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You're a good gal, MaryP, and I'm happy to support someone like you who can take any situation here, and learn from it. Plus, I agree with a lot of your opinions and advice.... which helps when it comes to supporting you, right? :o)

I'll be around, but if I don't run into you, have a spectacular weekend. ((mary))

BTW... remember that your name officially changes to ScaryP in a few weeks.... halloween is around the corner. boo.

Thanks, Shaney. We'll see if I'm still around in a few weeks. I appreciate your nice words though.

I perhaps should have taken more of a stand in an earlier conflict here, because it has been annoying me since then. Reached a breaking point today. This particular person's life is so pitiful already that nothing I could say could make it any more miserable. However, when you advised me before to "walk away", I did but I didn't.

Anyway, you have a fantastic weekend, too.

((((Shaney))))

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September 26, 2008
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Believe me, I have the same conflicts as you do, and completely understand. I've learned that taking more of a stand only prolongs the insanity, and makes for a hotter fire. I still haven't cooled off, from some of the conflicts that I've had here. It doesn't matter what angle you come from, it always ends the same way and the only thing that YOU learn, is that some people just aren't capable of seeing their lives for what they are. For the most part, the bad behavior continues because nothing is done about it. Aside from that, I really believe that some people just love to wallow in their own misery - and in turn, love to create misery for others. Don't sweat it, Mary. You're fine.

BTW... why wouldn't you be around?

September 26, 2008
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Hi Mary, Shaney.

Ok, I know this thread is for you too, but I just had to thow in my 2 cents and you're welcome to toss it back out:)

I just read that whole other thread where the person made the error and posted "spiritual stuff" on this side. My personal opinion is no harm no foul.

For what it's worth, as a still fairly new person on this site (Mid July 08), I am truly grateful that you posted the guidelines. To tell you the absolute truth, I know I read them, agreed to them, and promptly forgot them. I think when whatever it is drives you to this site gets you here - ok, let me speak for myself - I was in a hmmm... "fragile emotional state" when I started posting. I'm a reasonably intelligent woman not a Mensa...but close:) And when I read the guidelines just a few minutes ago, I was grateful because this time they made sense.

I applaud you Mary for standing your ground and the last post made me laugh out loud. She's very familiar with all the codependent stuff...however, seems to be totally unaware of the fact that she attacks people. And when you stand up for yourself, writes a scathing post about how she was attacked. She seems well versed in codependency, but blissfully unaware of what she does on this site, primarily bully. (The proper codependent terminology is "Persecute".) Personally, I think she needs a long look in a mirror. I know this, if she chooses to attack me again, I will firmly stand my ground.

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Check out the To MaStrong on Prayer Request thread. I've already sent an email to the SC apologizing, and I included excerpts from the Is Age a Deterrent to Love post as background.

Mary

September 26, 2008
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((((Longshot))))

Thank you. I appreciate your post very much.

Mary

September 26, 2008
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((((Shaney))))

September 26, 2008
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Y'all? I used to get real upset at the way the guidelines about religion were just run roughshod over because there were suicidal folks that would come on and they would get pithy phrases like let go and let....

Or people grappling with life decisions about leaving an abusive man to be told to cleave to the husband, it just went on and on.

Real stupid stuff, IMO. I think that's part of the reason religion was moved over to libs, because what is balm for some isn't for another. I don't see anything wrong with reminding someone of the guidelines. We sure are reminded of codependency and addiction often enough.

MaryP! Why would you leave? You have been so scarce anyway. So what if she is gunning for you- waiting for you at every corner. Take that for what it is. If it reminds you of something in your life, in your past, learn from it? You might become stronger if you change a pattern, you know? I did here with someone similar about a year ago. So similar, in fact, I am not convinced they aren'tthe same person!!!

Anyway, don't let get me started in that vein. 😀

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You're very welcome:)

(((Mary)))

September 26, 2008
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I'm sure that the SC (he/she/they) are already well aware of the situation... not necessarily your f-bomb, but the situation as a whole. It's nothing new. I'm sure your apology will be appreciated, but in all actuality, I've seen more "fuck yous" in the last 6 months, than in the whole 3 years I've been here. For some reason, it seems to be tolerated, or overlooked - I'm not sure which one. So, if anything is said about YOUR f-bomb, I would be very surprised.

Hi longshot :o) - you should know by now that you're always welcome on a thread with my name on it. Everyone has a right to stand up for themselves, and should. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said above.

September 26, 2008
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Oh Shaney, that's right, the F-bomb gets dropped around here a lot lately, doesn't it? Those bombers are still here!!

September 26, 2008
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Hey, I'm all for a good f-bomb once in a while - especially when it's warranted.

Mary - you do and say what you feel is necessary for YOU to feel good about things. You're going to be understood and supported no matter what.

September 26, 2008
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(((((Shaney and all of us))))))

September 26, 2008
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(((Marypoppins)))

I support you, too.

September 26, 2008
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((((Bevdee))))

September 26, 2008
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(((Bevdee)))(((Shaney)))(((Mary)))

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September 26, 2008
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I'd missed your post, Bevdee. Yeah, she's my mom in many many ways. I mentioned being gone because I thought I might get booted for the f-you.

Wishing all of us well.

Mary

September 26, 2008
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Although I can't think of anyone off hand that I'm reminded of, I still get annoyed, especially when there are children involved in bad situations who don't have the choices that adults have. It's maddening, but most of all frustrating.

September 26, 2008
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No rules against the f bomb, Mary. I've tossed that one out myself a few times and I'm still here.

Having your "pal" is almost like having a booger you can't get off of your finger, isn't it?

(((Mary)))

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((((SD))))

You crack me up. Dance safely.

Mary

September 26, 2008
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I sure hope I didn't inadvertently contribute to any of this mess?

- Ma Strong

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No Miss Strong,

I don't think you did at all. You handled it with grace. :~)

September 26, 2008
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No worries, MStrong... not at ALL! I think a poster saw an opportunity to antagonize MaryP, and took it. It could have happened on any thread where Mary was a participant, imo. Hopefully it will all blow over soon. Blessings to you :o)

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(((((Ma))))

You're great, Ma, as always.

On your other thread, a poster asked about the guidelines, so I copied and pasted them. 2 posters thanked me for doing so. I told them I was grateful because in the past I've been criticized for simply posting the guidelines. 2 other posters responded with their opinions and experiences about posting guidelines.

Destiny took one of the poster's comments and twisted them in a way to slam me, as she is infamous for doing. I responded.

I'm done tolerating her crap, Ma. I've reached my limit with it. Sorry that it happened on your thread.

If you look through all of the threads on this board, you'll see many instances of people apologizing to one another and trying to have peace. She is never one of the people apologizing. I don't care anymore what her mental illnesses are. She's mean, and she knows exactly what she's doing.

The only people who interact with her anymore are you and new people, who don't know any better. She has been allowed to bully and lash out at others in a way that no one else on this site does. Is that recovery? Is that peace?

All the best to you, Ma.

Mary

September 26, 2008
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MaryP,

You say, "She has been allowed to bully and lash out at others in a way that no one else on this site does. Is that recovery? Is that peace?"

There have been others, believe me, but they have either left or lurk, waiting for an opportunity. I know there's one waiting for me, and there's one that loves to go after Shaney, and it's because neither of us will apologise to either of these posters for being attacked.

It sure ain't support, is it? There have been others that just kept on in that manner, seemingly unchecked, and it really makes me wonder about a site that claims to be about support. How some get away with what others wouldn't. Maybe it's more observation than support.

But negative attention is better than none at all, isn't it?

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Now MaryP has one! There should be a "no stalking" guideline that we could refer to every time they go after us. Ha! Mine has been laying dormant, thank goodness.

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