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***Revelation***
December 14, 2006
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No one deserves to be with an addict...addicts care about nothing but their next fix, that is the plain and simple truth...why would you possible want to be with someone who doesn't care for you.

The above statement hurt...I will post when I can contribute a positive response.

Blessing,
Sakti (Recovering Addict - 5 Years Clean)

December 14, 2006
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Very true Sakti!

Congrats to being clean!!!! Here is a pat on your back!!!!

December 14, 2006
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Oh christ...whats this pick on rev day????

I'm sorry that hurt Sakti it wasn't aimed at you or anyone who's trying to get clean...I think you know that.

You are a recovering addict...I didn't say "recovering addict" I said "addict" BIG BIG HUGE difference there wouldn't you say?

I'm wondering why you had to single me out by creating a new thread to do this? There is already a thread out there criticsing my honesty...you should have just added to that.

This post makes me feel as though I'm being bullied and ostracised, I've never in all the time I've been here and during any conflicts that have gone on here...seen someone singled-out like this. with stars on their name just so everyone can see!!! Nice!

Rev.

December 14, 2006
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Sakti,

First, i dont think weve ever "spoke" so hello. Ive been around these halls for over a year now, just only post on 1 or threads these days.

second, I dont mean to speak for Revelation, but Im sure what she meant in that post was CURRENT addicts. Not someone who has recovered from their addiction, such as yourself. rev is a very warm, caring person, and always has been in her interactions with others here, and I just know she didnt mean any disrespect in regards to you, or anyone else.

Ive never been addicted to drugs, but Ive spent a good portion of my life surrounded by either alcoholics or drug addicts, and ive come to realize that when the drug or drink that is controlling is is INDEED in control, thats more important than anything. It doesnt mean youre a hurtful or mean person, it just means you arent in control, your addiction is.

You should be commended for overcoming your addiction, and Im sure everyone here would feel the same way. I just dont think you need to take personally the comment that Rev made in regards to someone who is involved with a person who is still a current addict.

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December 14, 2006
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Thank you for your support and love, I simply said that it hurt. I have compassion for everyone.

Blessings,
Sakti

December 14, 2006
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below is one of the guidelines for this site......

Quotes & Tips: Starting new threads with those you are in conflict/disagreement with or using catch phrases in thread titles to draw attention to a person you are in conflict with is a method of attack. Instead, talk assertively on the thread in question.

if this was me, and a thread was ***starred*** for my attention I would also feel attacked. I think it is more productive to state your concern on the thread in question.

just my opinion of course....

Snow

December 14, 2006
5:14 pm
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Snow

Thanks for posting that guideline. It seems that lately it has been ignored in quite a few cases, and I have seen numerous threads started just like this one, with one nickname surrounded by stars. Sakti is a new poster and may have thought this was "the way it's done here".

Rev, I too have noticed a sharper tone in some of your recent posts. It's unfortunate that it's being pointed out in a way that is understandably arousing a "picked-on" feeling for you.

good will to all, kroika

December 14, 2006
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Yes, Kroika, there is a sharper tone you are right! If thats the way I'm feeling when I reply to someone then thats the way it will come out!

And yes, the thread did make me feel picked on...but its ok, I can take it!

Rev.

December 14, 2006
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Revelation,

So it is okay for you to use a "sharper tone" and therefore call em as you see em but for someone like me is not.

Spare me.

Good luck. Notsure

December 14, 2006
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Sharper is the wrong word, I wasn't giving out to anyone I wasn;'t putting anyone down...at least I don't think my post to 2b did that. But I felt that your post was putting chico donw. I felt he'd had enough unfair judgements on that thread notsure. I felt your post unfairly put the guy in a corner.

I've done that myself in the past too, and I've been called on it!

December 14, 2006
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No he put himself in the corner.....by his henious actions.

I think you should carefully and slowly re-read his posts.

He definitely needs to see a counsellor. However, just because he "confesses his sins" doesn't mean that he should automatically be forgiven and only supported and not be held accountable. It is like one of those death row conversions.

Suggest as well from a couple of posts that I have seen on this thread and elsewhere,that you are sanctimonious.

But you know I'm good, as being here always teaches me things. And that is what this site is all about.

Please note that I won't be responding to you, nor posting on that particular thread, again.

Good luck.

Regards. Notsure

December 15, 2006
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Rev.

I would like to apologize for my miss interpreting your post. Being human, I will make “errors” and hopefully grow from them. After talking with my sponsor last night, I got to the bottom of what button the statement pushed. The statement was about how it affected me.
I would also like to apologize for singling you out. It was very disrespectful of your feelings. Again, I apologize.

Yeah, I like to create drama from time-to-time as I did with the “I’m leaving” bit. Oh well! I don’t create it near like I use too.

I needed time before I reposted, because in the moment I usually don’t know what is going on with me. If I had reposted yesterday it would have been a reaction, as you can clearly see from my initial posts.

When I do post I try to be as kind as I can be, because that was exactly what I needed early in recovery. I had so mistreated myself I needed others to be kind to me, because I didn’t know how.

I also try when I post to drop the word “you” completely, because this can cast judgment and blame. It is about the content of my post as well as the presentation of it.

Honesty…I have found that I can be as honest with you as you will allow me to be. I will not be harshly honest to prove my point.

BTY Revelation not one bit of my original post was about YOU.

Better written: Revelation, I appreciate the time you took to respond to my post, however everything I’m feeling are my issues.

Blessing,
Sakti

December 15, 2006
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I appreciate that Sakti. Thank you and best of luck with the work you are doing on yourself. Its hard, I know, we all have our down days...if I can be of any help here let me know.

Rev.

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