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questions about medication
November 18, 2001
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I'm currently suffering from a two-month plus battle with depression and occasionally anxiety, and I am getting therapy. I am supposed to be monitoring myself for highs and lows, and am going to talk to my therapist about possible medication this week. I am curious about what any of you might recommend or definitely give me the "no" on before I proceed any further. My husband has concerns about anything that might curb my sexual appetite (of course -- what difference does it make if it causes brain damage or something, as long as I still want sex?) If anybody has any suggestions, please post. Thanks.

November 18, 2001
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Ms. T.
I too have some mild depression and anxiety. I am more into the natural meds like St. John's Wort, Kava Kava and Valerian Root. At some point I might seek out more meds, but this plus counseling seems to be working for me now. As a therapist myself, I know that mild tranquilizers like Xanax and Valium are no longer used long-term because of being controlled substances (extremely addictive). I know that Prozac and Zoloft (SSRI's) are frequently used for depression and anxiety. However, I think that a side effect may be the sexual stuff-or lack of :). Otherwise, they have few side effects. MAO inhibitors are anti-depressants that I would recommend people stay away from because they involve dietary restrictions (Nardil, Parnate). Plus, they are rarely prescribed anymore. Major tranquilizers (antipsychotic meds) like Thorazine, Haldol, Mellaril, Zyprexa, Risperdal can cause Tardive Dyskinesia which is like having Parkinson's in a way. Those probably wouldn't be prescribed for anxiety/depression anyway. Some of the newer meds are Topomax and Celexa for depression and Bipolar D/O. Paxil and Wellbutrin are others. I'm sorry to keep running my mouth on this stuff. Working in this business has become an occupational hazard for me :):):)
The psychiatrist is the only one who can prescribe the meds. However, I can't promise that every psychiatrist is going to be ethical or follow the PDR's recommendation of meds.
Good Luck and if you have any questions about specific meds I will try to help! 🙂

November 19, 2001
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What ever you do, don't go on to Zoloft if you enjoy sexual release, in my opinion I have found that physical yoga and meditation have been on of the best ways for me to over come my depression.The thing you should realize with meditation , is that you will not get immediate results.It takes awhile to settle your thoughts.If you are not sure how to meditate and are interested have a search around and find a class were you feel comfortable ,learn the techniques ,then the world is your oyster.(maybe I should have said pearl??)
I found that MEDICATIONS sent my system into turmoil , you must remember that they are mind altering drugs , It would be far better to look into natural therapies (as suziq suggested) as well as alter your surroundings change your routine, experiment a bit and try and train your mind to focus on the positives.
I found that by changing my mental conditioning has decreased my periods of depression.I am not on any meds ('eh blondie") any more and Im powering.take care

November 19, 2001
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I recommend Celexa, it is wonderful and there aren't that many side effects. I have tried zoloff and pro sac and they did nothing forme. It is hard to do it by yourself meds really help

November 19, 2001
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I agree with philter i am on zoloft have been for about 4 yrs. and there are definately sexual side effects.. I was in severe depression and i really feel if it wasn't for the meds. i wouldn't have gotten out of it...but i find it very hard to get off of the zoloft i get very dizzy and anxious whenever my doc tries to wean me off and as far as the sexual side effects we are trying to get me off the zoloft and on to something different..i just recently tried remeron for one day and thought i was in a coma... couldn't move had to take off work it was out of control..obviously i will not be taking that anymore.. but i would recommend going on meds. but only if its severe depression if not try to explore other means...

November 19, 2001
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cELEXA HAS VERY LITTLE SIDE EFFECTS IT DOES KINDA EFFECT THE SEX DRIVE BUT NOT VERY MUCH I DON'T HAVE AS MANY MOOD SWINGS AS I DID AND IT JUST KEEPS IN CONTROL WHEN I TAKE THEM. YOU HAVE TO FINE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU

November 19, 2001
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45 min of exercise 3 times a week is supposed to be as effective as most of the medication out there, and it stimulates the sex drive !

November 19, 2001
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Yup - if you want I can put in a link or give the web address to a recent study that found that physical exertion provides the same boost in serotonin levels as the leading antidepressants. Better for you, too, because they aren't artificially synthesized.

I've been fighting anxiety and depression for a few years and I've been on several different meds, from xanax and valium and buspar for anxiety, to amitryptaline, wellbutrin and celexa for depression. All were yucky.

But exercise and meditation have given me hope that I never, even had before. I recommend, though, that you go to classes for the exercise and groups for the meditation because it encourages you to go and you make new friends and it's good to have someone guide you rather than trying to muddle through yourself.

November 19, 2001
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Thanks, everybody, for the advice. I do exercise at least thirty minutes 4 or 5 days a week, and so far that hasn't done the trick. I have talked to my doc, and she is putting me on a low dosage of Effexor, one of the newer drugs for the mixed bag of depression and anxiety, I think. At this point, with anxiety attacks virtually taking my breath almost daily, I'm going to try it. I will also increase the amount of exercise I do, if possible, and maybe with time and patience (and plenty of therapy for my crazy self), I'll come around.

November 20, 2001
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BlondieNC

Wellburtrin does that help with weight loss also? I need something new that is powerful

November 20, 2001
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I am taking Paxil. I have been taking 20mg a day for the past year off and on. They just adjusted me to 40mg a day last week. I cannot believe how calm I am. I am never calm. I am always an anxious person, I get angry easily and I get Insominia. I am un-believeably calm and a customer pissed me off and i was very polite. I am sleeping. I am so freaked out cause I don't know how to be calm. I am happy too. Oh by the way I have major depressive disorder recurrent and I suffer from anxiety attacks.
I have tried zoloft in the past and it just made me feel stoned.

November 21, 2001
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well it sounds like i would like to try welburtrin.

November 21, 2001
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Oh man, I was on wellbutrin for 3 months and became increasingly jittery, until I simply could not sleep. I was awake for 7 days straight and I just went off the deep end from not being able to sleep. So then my psych put me an various and sundry sleeping pills, which at one point caused hallucinations and I finally said, that's it! NO more messing with my neurochemicals!!

ms T., I've been practicing yoga for a few months now on a daily basis and I've gotten into studying about the subject. In yoga they make the distinction between the types of exercise you do. By working out muscles and the heart vigorously, you do exercise but that can sometimes be irritating to your system. That's why gentle exercise that involves stretching and isometric muscular contractions is actually better for teh body and the mind - ie Yoga, Tai Chi, Qi Gong, Pilates. There are sooooo many different styles of yoga, too, from mother Hatha to Kundalini, Iyengar, Bikram and Ashtanga. I practice Hatha and Iyengar, all are suited to different personalities and body types.

Another important thing to monitor is diet, often neglected especially in America. Caffiene and anxiety disorders don't mix at all. Neither does a lot of refined sugars because you get all that energy and then direct it at increasing your own level of tension!! Just a thought....

November 21, 2001
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I support what Cici is saying about the yoga, I practice Hatha, and when I feel up to the challenge, and I do mean challenge, I will do Ashtanga, I have done some Kundalini work, and gota say, when I start my day with the 7X7 breathing, there is absolutely nothing , not a darn thing that could rock my world. There are a few other kundalini things though that can................ 🙂

November 22, 2001
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So far, the Effexor hasn't been too bad. The first night I took it, I felt a little manic in the evening, but after a few more days of not responding that way, I'm wondering if I might be bipolar. What do you think? I have had some severe mood swings, highs and lows lasting a few days. Right now, I feel very normal, but in the back of my mind, I still have some obsessive thoughts nagging at me. The only other side effect so far has been a little nausea the first day and everybody's favorite -- insomnia!!! I wake up at 3:00 a. m. every morning. That I can deal with, and doc says it should decrease over the next week. Thanks for the health advice, too. I exercise pretty regularly and I have only one cup of coffee in the a. m., then it's water and occasionally juice. I quit drinking any carbonated beverages in July. I recommend that to everybody!

November 23, 2001
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Is there such a thing as getting hooked on vicodin? I have been taking it for my bad knees when IM in pain but lately it seems I reach for it a little to much. I have never taken drugs or drank but now it seems I need it. I have been having highs and lows and that seems to make me deal with things alot better.

Bel

November 23, 2001
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Yes, Bel yes, yes, yes, yes. Sorry to say, its great stuff, but very addictive. had one lady believe it or not up to 60 per day, now go figure how her stomach processed it, but she lived to talk about it. Vicoden works on the brain. it stops the pain center for some kinds of pain, not all, but seems to work for you. It is a type of morphine, get it morphine, heroin, ugh get the picture? M.D.s give it out like candy, and well isn't there something else you can take? Danger warning, seek alternative treatment. Please be careful.

November 23, 2001
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Celexa has given me muscular spasms similar to MS; that alone is enough to drive a person crazy . Wellbutrin sounds good, especially the appetite depressing part. Celexa causes weight gain as well.

November 26, 2001
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Yes Celexa does cause weight gain that is why i am going to look into the welburtrin

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