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POST-TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER
March 14, 2000
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I recently went to my doctor because I wasn't feeling so good, and I decided to tell him about the recent flashbacks I've been having about certain things that happened in my childhood. I've been having these flashbacks and sometimes I black out and start seeing things from the past. The doctor said I have Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder...that does NOT sound good. He suggested a psychologist, which I would never dream of, because I'm scared to death of them. I've never opened up about what happened to me partly because of that. Anyway, I didn't say anything OR ask about PTSD. If there is anyone out there who has it, please write back. I need some help here...and NOT from some psychologist. Thanks
-Jonathan

March 15, 2000
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Well.... if if a psychologist is out of the question...is a counselor out of the question? I see that you were trusting enough of your medical doctor to tell him and then...you won't take his advice and seek the help you need?

If he gives you a prescription for medication do you refuse to take it?

Millions of 'Nam vets fought PTSD for years and FINALLY there was help.

If the PTSD is related to the terrible things..abuse, neglect etc.that happend in your childhood we can be of support but we cannot give you the professional suport you need.

If you are ready to tell your M.D. about the flashbacks... maybe soon you can talk to a professional. thay aren't all called psychologists and they aren't all quacks. T here are many "schools" or theories of therapy.

Let us know more.

March 15, 2000
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My dad is a WWII, Korean and Vietnam vet, so he has a lot of problems with PTSD. My only advise to you, after living with him for 18 years while he struggled with it because he refused to see a counselor, is to SEE A COUNSELOR!

Not only have the psychological problems been frightening and intensely intimidating, the problems have bled into his physical health, which is now steadily declining. He developed a severe stomach disorder, was alcoholic for about 12 years, and now lives on percosets for the chronic pain in his body from being tense for so long (as well as some other physical ailments of mysterious origin).

I understand that you're afraid to see a counselor, but what do they exist for? It is wrong to think that every mental problem can be solved on your own, and you could save yourself and your loved ones years of grief and heartache by simly seeing one for a few months. I saw a therapist for depression and drug problems, but only for about 2 months. After that, I felt stronger and more able to face my problems myself. She didn't fix anything, but she did teach me how to heal myself, which is the most that any psychologist or psychiatrist should do.

PTSD is a serious psycholigcal disorder that can affect you for the rest of your life. Please, please, save your loved ones some pain.

March 15, 2000
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Something did happen to me when I was younger...I never talked about it before though. And seeing that I've gotten this far in my life without talking about it, I don't understand why this is happening now. And I really don't intend to talk about what happened, I think of it as in the past and that's where I want it to stay. If I see a psychologist, what would I say if I'm not ready to open up? -Jonathan

March 15, 2000
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HOW have you gotten this far without talking about...the problem has always been there within you...festering and infecting all areas of your life and relationships without you even being aware of it. Our minds are extremely powerul entities...either you help your psyche...or it will stop you. Stop you until you get help.

Flashbacks and blackouts aren't message enough for you? What will it take..your injuring someone during a blackout? WHAT?

Any counseling ou get will 70% your work and 30 % the therapist. No therapist will FORCE you to talk. You only need to openup as you need..

But you need to start somewhere.

March 16, 2000
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With disoreders like this, the problem is insidious, because as janes said, it infects every area of your life without you knowing it. The problem is common among people with dysthymia, too (mild to moderate depression). They don't realize that the depression is eating away at their life until something drastic happens.

The reason it's affecting you now is that something must have happened recently that triggered all the memories. they willcontine to come to youin bits in pieces as time goes by, and your feelings of unexplained anxiety will increase. Sometimes people who have experienced trauma and don't talk about it also experience strange medical problems. I was sexually assaulted as a child and raped twice as a teenager. I forgot about the incidents until one evening, when a friend was discussing his experiences with being molested. I suddenly remembered. As the years have passed since then, I have remembered more and more, even though i tried hard to repress all the memories. I was like you, unable to come to grips with what had happened and unwilling to discuss it.

Meanwhile, my body developed strange maladies. I have a stomach disorder, I get migranes, I get body aches, this all comes from being under stress from the repressed anxiety that you feel.

Until you get help, it can never get better. My father hasn't ever seen a counselor, and he's steadily deteriorated, slowly and painfully, for the past 25 years.

Try writing out what happened to you. I did this, and it was painful and embarrassing and awkward. But it helped me organize my thoughts. The problem comes when trauma remains unaddressed because there is no closure for you. No end to the fear that thismay occur again, even in situations where you know it won't, as with war vets. You never know what will trigger a negative reaction. At least try to help yourself.

March 16, 2000
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There's too much to say and I have to many questions...I can't talk about what happened to me because while growing up I permanently created a wall between me and the outside world, because I couldn't deal with what happened. Even now as I'm writing, you would think that I would be thinking about it. But I'm not. It's buried so deep down inside of my mind that I can't even get it out when I try. It comes out at the worst moments...a lot lately...and I'm having trouble with a girl that I'm seeing that I know I'm in love with. Not just the physical aspect of our relationship...the emotional aspects are suffering too. There are just too many problems for me to talk about, and no one to talk to. And my flashbacks, they aren't just 3-second memories...they are the most vivid and the scariest visions I've ever had. I have panic attacks because I feel like I'm back in the same situation I was in when I was younger. It's almost as bad as when it actually happened...and I forgot how that felt for a while. I feel completely helpless. Then I take my anger out on those who care about me without even thinking about what I'm doing. It's horrible. I've been wondering about hypnosis. There's no other way you're going to get anything out of me. Should I look into it?-Jonathan

March 16, 2000
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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES ...But find one that is reputable with great credentials and to put your mind at ease ask for two or three references.

Ask your doctor...the one who first mentioned Post traumatic stress.

But run don't walk to seek help!!!!!!

March 16, 2000
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But it's still too scary...I don't know if I'm ready to let people know what's going on in my head! I don't even think that I know what's going on in there. There are too many questions!

March 17, 2000
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Okay...it's still to scary...what can we say. Suffer? YOur life is your choice. too many questions to seek help for yeourself?

This is all up to you...noone can force you into anything you don't want to do even under hypnosis.

C'mon.

March 17, 2000
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agree with janes.
hi, Jonathan, you've the same name as one of my best friends' boyfriend.
yes, it's OK and it is extremely scary. .....you are terrified to feel yourself, aren't you? I know this feeling, I am now working in exploring my own feeling too. but like what janes said, the SOLE way to tackle it is to FEEL it. U didn't tell us the real problem with your girlfriend, but I can still feel it, my broke up with my bf also lead me to "re-feel" some of hidden/suppressed hurt since I was young. The pain doubles and I was scared to death...I didn't know how to tell and how to deal with it....but it's the heart that we make shift from unconcious to concious, if you didn't feel there's a need to change, wouldn't you come here/see the doctor and ask for advice? You, yourself, has taken the first step to change, but it's easy to take one step forward and two step back, now it's up to you to "forward" or "backward".
I, myself, want to move forward; so although I still don't know what exactly I should tell or ask my counselor, I see keep seeing her, just say whatever that come up to my mind at the moment, don't rush myself, just try let things go as smoothly as it possibly can (janes' once advised me). I'm not sure if it is the most suitable for you, but as you've taken one step, why gonna step backward? you've experienced your past once, why not try sth new?
take care.

hey, janes, I feel like I am actually saying this to myself. 🙂
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March 17, 2000
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Good for you JT...positive self talk can really help. For years and years i did the negetive stuff and now I just don't let it come out of my mouth...or if complimented I would negate it..."oh this old thing"...not anymore...a cheery thank you is what you git if you compliment me.

Jonathan...we'll listen. Life is a process not a goal. Yeah...you may have lots of problems but finally saying you have some is a major step. You are on the road to recovery. It won't be over night and it won't necessarily be easy..but it's your trip, honey. It can be better than it is now...but it is up to you and you alone. What happened in the past is in the past. They can't do it to you again but the memories of what they did can ruin your life forever and then....they win. Stop them. You be the winner...you can you know. You can be the winner.
c'mon......we still like you.

March 17, 2000
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one more thing. you mentioned that "while growing up I permanently created a wall between me and the outside world", as you have created it all on your own, you have the power to demolish it, right? but as you have input such a long time to build it, you probably have to use a long time to make it away. I'm doing my work, hope you're fine too.

talk to you in other thread, janes.
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March 18, 2000
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Wow. I knew this was for support, but... 🙂 Okay, so you're saying I could "break down" that wall I created? I have a recommended list of therapists sitting on my kitchen counter. There's ONE female on the list...and I'm not speaking to a guy. If I call her, is the first meeting automatically a session or is it just like a consultation? -Jonathan

p.s.-I had a dream that I was surrounded by a ring of fire last night. What the hell is that supposed to mean??

March 18, 2000
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Jonathan, I know what you are going through. I had PTSD after being a car accident with my cousin. She died, but I was in the back, and I lived. I was only 12 and it had a serious impact on my life, I hated myself for surviving while she died, and I was having the same flashbacks that you are experiencing. I know exactly what that feels like, you are not alone. It's very scary, I know, and it can ruin your life. Listen to what everyone has been telling you. See a counselor. You need to talk about what happened, you can't just bury things and expect them to go away. Would it help to tell us what happened when you were a child? If you don't feel like opening up...we understand. But just know that we are here for you. And yes, the first meeting with a therapist is usually just like a consultation, she will introduce herself and ask you if you'd like to tell her a few things about yourself. This usually works two ways: to create a friendly atmosphere between you and her and to get a feel for your personality and what you're like. Then, you can decide weather you'd like to come back and start your first session. There is NO pressure coming from the therapist. She will move at your pace, and you can feel free as to what you chose to express. Any other questions? Don't hesistate to ask 🙂

P.S.-Dreams often have hidden meanings. I'm no professional, but what the ring of fire MIGHT represent is your feeling of entrapment, like you know you need to express yourself and see help, but you're scared, and you feel pressured. Am I right?

March 18, 2000
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Why not? YOU are the one who create it, aren't you? I am breaking my own wall (lots of hard work, especially when I am so scared), don't you tell me it doesn't work; it's hard enough to face the pressure surronding me, don't you tell me I can't break this wall. I had enough entrappment within this damn wall.

March 19, 2000
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Jonathan. Most of us are here because we have PAIN an PROBLEMS just as you do. Please don't treat us like we are a bunch of geeks cuz we arent'

We don't care if you go to an indian shaman. or if the therapist is purple. We just want you to understand that the problems you have are YOURS. YOU can change YOUR life if YOU want too. YEah its work, and lots of struggle. You'll be beter in the end.

WE are not therapist so we can only guess at the ring of fire meaning. Your bookstore may have or could order a book of dream meanings.

No matter what therapist you pick you may need to change. Sex of therapist can matter to some people to others it won't. No good therapist is gonna think liess of a person of the same sex is they were sexualy molested as a child. things that happen to us as children ARE NEVER OUR FAULT.

What are you so defensive about. You will never meet any of US...we are spread out AROUND THE WORLD!!!!

You need to also do some reading about Post Traumatic Stress. Type it in on your internet and start learning now. All the work is yours.

From reading what you have written if you want to change this you better face the denial and the defensiveness. Or your can kiss your health goodbye.

I am not trying to be mean just honest with you. Weaker people have made bigger changes!!!

March 19, 2000
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hey jonathon,
Maybe the ring of fire represents the wall you have made around yourself - big fire wall, kinda scary isn't it? it is not only a wall that protects you from others but it also stops you going out and reaching to them because you may get burnt! so the wall is your enemy as well as you friend. BUT water extinguished fire, so you can piss on it if you want and put it out, use your human intelligence over the raw nature of fire and win!!!;))
Just my thoughts!
But if you have this dream again try to note what else happens and how you feel, you are the best person in the world to interpret your own dreams, what do you think it means? dreams can really help you see into yourself and what your real feelings are, but they do speak a wierd language! you need to know what your mind uses for symbols, go with your own instincts.
Life really is too short though, use a coucellor as a tool to get this understanding, i know you wont regret it, and surely the hard work will be worth it.
My mother always had an intense fear of drowning, since she "drowned" as a child and had to be revived. She was intensely afraid of water. One day she had a major panic attack, they had started due to some medication she had been given some months before, and now she found she had them on occasion but this one was very bad and she couldn't understand why it had come on becuase she had been happily watching a movie at home one night when it came.
She went to a hynotist who regressed her back to her panic attack. Turns out, that lthough she couldn't remember what she was watching at the time, she had the attack come on when she saw the drowning scene watching the film Abyss. This was what triggered it off, but she hadn't realised. The therapist spent several sessions with her, going through her actual drowning experience. Turns out that she had fallen in the sea while walking on the breakwater, but her family had told her not to walk on it so she felt it was all her own fault that she fell in. The funny thing was, to this day she had always denied to her brothers and mother etc that she was walking on the break water, but had always told us kids that she was. She didn't even realise that as an adult she would still deny what really happened to those people who had told her not to walk on the breakwater. She managed to get closure on this guilt she had carried by actually talking it through with her mother and having her mother "forgive" her for walking on the breakwater, and having her mother tell her it was okay and it was not her fault!! it sounds so corney but it worked, she has now learned to swim!!! the difference between her being in the water before hypnosis to after she had resolved these issues was amazing!

That said, i tried hypnosis and it did little for me!!:))

So, you don't know if you don't try, and as my great-grandmother used to say "better out than in"
Peace
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March 19, 2000
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jonathan-reread Hazza post about 40 times.

We are cheering for you!!!!!!

March 19, 2000
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Lol..thanks guys. Okay there's too much to respond to, so I'll just tell you that I'm thinking about calling the therapist. I did block out certain things from what happened, I know that for a fact. But then it all hits me suddenly--which is worse than just living with it. I'm kind of sick of asking for help and then pushing people away. So that and you guys telling me are pretty good reasons to call her :)And the fact that I don't have to have a session with her if I'm not comfortable also helps. I always thought that once you were in an "official" session you had no choice. Okay, I gotta be somewhere, I'm already late. I'll be back soon....to let you know if I called or not-Jonathan

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Being a student in psychology, I wouldn't recommend seeing a hypnotherapist. This is because in the hypnotic state, you are extremely open to suggestion.

There is no licesure board for hypnotherapists, thus there is no nation-wide regluation. Often, there is no state-based regulation either. Credentials are sometimes sketchy, and usually there's no way to check into them. All the cases of multiple personality disorder have been fabricated by the hypnotherpaists who "diagnosed" them. The only diagnosed cases surfaced during the 1960s. If they were real disorders (schizophrenia, bipolar modd disorder) evidence from cases in the past, as early as the 1800s would have been recorded.

In the mid-west, especially, there are several cases pending against "hypnotherapists" who suggested to patients that they were sexually abused or molested by family members when in acuality, they were suffering from anxiety disorders! Sometimes people with anxiety disorders will have flashes of horrible, anxiety-inducing scenes, during a panic attack. They interpreted them incorrectly and destroyed some of there women's lives.

My point is this: there is no easy outs in therapy. No one can go inside your head and fix things.

March 20, 2000
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My God. Okay...now I'm happy I didn't call that therapist...you just scared the hell out of me! (lol)So now what am I supposed to do? That's what I thought all along...every kind of therapist is just out to screw with your head...You know what I get out of that word? The Rapist. TheRapist. Okay, I know that's messed up...you don't need to tell me 🙂 But I thought I was just insane, I finally thought I could trust a therapist. If hypnotherapists can be that evil...then what makes regular therapists any different?-Jonathan

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Get references or referrals for good counselors (use this word if it's better) qualified for what you want and remember that you can walk out at any time - any time. Not saying you should but it's your right.

March 26, 2000
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hiv jd

WOULD YOU JUST STOP IT!!!!!

Ministers can be evil, presidents can be evil

Yet at the same time there are MULTITUDES of therapists and AND AND hypnotherapists who can be good.

You are just looking for excuses to not get help. there are doctors you can't trust, nurses you can't trust and moms and dads you can't trust. Lovers you can't trust. Mechanics you can't trust. So...do you never get your brakes fixed? Do you never go to a physician to get the antibiotics you need?

STOP WITH THIS ALREADY!!!!!

So..don't go to a counselor, don't go to a therapist don't go to a hypnotherapist. Find out what the highest licensing is in your state and go to the top. A clinical psychologist or a psychiatrist. You definitely need to work on your issues of trust.

Why would you start thinking you can trust a therapist whn you haven't met them yet? And even if there are some nut case hypnotherapists there are also some that are more than honest and more than decent. There are also screwed up people who sue ANYBODY WHO IS BREATING just for money.

If you CHOOSE to go into some type of therapy you can choose to leave it. There are very few cases of clients being kidnapped and held in the basement by qualified therapist.

As far as "The Rapist" goes...you are , to me, raping your own life and your own mind. When and if things get bad enough you will seek the help you need from the person who you are most comfortable with regardless of their credentials. It is after all your life and your mind. You need to make your decisions in this. We have all had very different experiences from one another. AND WE MAY ALL BE WRONG!!!

Good Luck in YOUR quest.

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