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Need support, starting a diet, please...gg
August 24, 2006
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Thanks Shaney, I am going to write down your menu and adjust for my likes and dislikes. Zax, if you commit, you must keep in touch!!! Thanks for any support; going shopping when I get home from work.

August 24, 2006
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Oh please let me join in. I may not be able to make daily contact because some days I am in court or out of the office but I will definitely chime in when Im here. Your timing is perfect. Today I went to court and my clothes are getting snug. I cant afford a new wardrobe so I HAVE to lose weight. I have never been good at following a certain menu diet so I cook for my kids and just eat smaller portions. I REALLY need to get back to exercising. I was in a wonderful program once that is more of a lifestyle change. The food was delicious too. It is called bio-metrics and if anyone can do it it is highly recommended in my area. You drink lots of water and like I said good food. Its cost is not too bad but if you cannot do the exercise program and can just find the recipes somewhere it would save a lot. I still have my recipe book. I think I will get it out and start using it again. I am getting excited. I have never had support for losing weight before. Do we set goals?

August 24, 2006
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Hey gg - When I buy cottage cheese and yogurt, I buy them in the ready to go containers... the small portions... and always the non-fat stuff. I try to make it as easy as possible for me to just grab stuff and run. If I have to spend too much time preparing things, I grab junk... bad bad bad. Those PRIA (?) snack bars are good... the low carb ones can be substituted for one of your snacks if you want.

I just had that Quiznos Roman Chicken salad, even though we're not starting until tomorrow. I really like that thing!

Anyway - as I think of things I'll let you know.

August 24, 2006
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Hi thumkin!

Maybe that would be a good idea to set some goals for ourselves, individually, then share them with everyone. That way, by stating it out loud to others, we're accountable. I'll start:

I want to lose ten pounds in two months. And the first day of my diet will be tomorrow - so by October 25, I should be a supermodel, right?

August 24, 2006
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I would like to lose 10 pounds. No more than fifteen total. My first goal is to be very simple. I will start a diet tomorrow. That is my goal. I have to take baby steps because I am horrible at dieting. I put it off over and over etc.etc. or Ill cheat once and then just quit. So goal #1 is to begin diet tomorrow.

August 24, 2006
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Maybe we shouldn't use the dreaded "diet" word, altogether. Let just say that tomorrow we're going to start eating "healthy." Dieting, to me, is synonymous with starving. Let's just eat healthy from now on, and if we mess up, we'll make up for it the next day. :o)

August 24, 2006
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Okay, I am home from work and was thrilled to see such involvement and support. Shaney, you were right! But, I am getting confused as to who is on and supporting and the lucky ones like P&L who will support us. I don't want to leave anyone out so I am going to have to write down the nicknames of the "partakers" and the "supporters". I want to write down everyone's goal. This will be me trememdously with accountability.

My goal: 30 pounds by Nov. 30th. I don't know if that is unreal, but will have to be satisfied with 20 pounds, but no less!!!

August 24, 2006
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This is great topic!
I have had to watch my weight all my life. I put on a bunch of weight years ago while training for a marathon thinking that because I was running so much, I could eat whatever I wanted. Wrong! Everyone is different. My body gains weight very easy. I now am at a great weight and am able to maintain it but it's a constant "diet". First, the word diet is a misnomer. it is not a temporary thing. It's what you eat. Not what you're on. And the real bad thing, is when you DO lose weight. you will have to eat less to maintain the NEW weight. You can't go back to what you ate before the weight loss. Period. And it's a real mind game to play with yourself.
Some "simple" things to think about are these:
1) Everybody is different. What works for someone else may or may not work for you.
2) carbs are not evil.
3) moderation is really a key factor
4) the "American" style of loading a plate should be reconsidered, ie, instead of a big portion of meat, and a couple of pieces of vegetable, load up on the veggies, no butter, and a tiny piece of meat, ...
5)walking is wonderful
6)calories count. so does fat percentage.
7) limit fat as much as you can. It will get into your diet without trying.
8)veggies are the good guys
9)excercise, even just walking does SO much good......mentally and physically

August 24, 2006
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How about a vegetarian diet. You know replacing meat with stuff like beans, lentils and stuff like that. They are really healthy and tasty.

August 24, 2006
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Vegetarians diets are great. Still, you need to know what's in the food. Thee are vegetarian dishes (like in restaurants) that are horrifically high in fat!!! But veggies are best. And you need protien, which you can get from beans etc. One of the worst things for losing weight is processed foods. If you must eat prepared foods, read lables. The best thing to do is cook yourself, but that is not always practical.
Personally, I find cooking theraputic.
Some people are vegetarians for health reasons and some are for ethical reasons. I have a friend who won't eat anything that has a face. And this includes mussels and clams!
I have yet to see a face on a clam!!
Anyway, losing weight is hard, but absolutely NOT impossible!!
Consider me a supporter, and a "maintainer" (?)

August 24, 2006
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Wow watergirl, you are motivating. My problem: don't like veggies too much. Love sweets too much.

I lost 35 pounds last year, felt great, had some things happened that caused great depression, didn't care anymore, started eating and gained it all back. I was in denial that I was regaining until the time came to buy bigger size clothes.

Are the lean cuisines, healthy choice dinners, etc. okay? It is easy to bring these to work for lunch. I am a teacher so there is only 25 min. lunches and can't leave.
Also, need ideas for healthy snacks.
Hate cheese and yogurt. Do like raw carrots, pretzels, and fruit.

I dug out the old calorie book, bought a journal, and ready.

Bad thing, had a bad day at work so I am not feeling too pumped up, but know I need to do this.

August 24, 2006
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Hey girls - are we ready to do this?

I'm sorry you had a bad day, gg. I think the first few days of eating healthy is the hardest, because it's a change and you're not used to it. But just don't look at it as depriving yourself. I think we'll all do fine with this, especially since we're going to be here for eachother.

Great advice watergirl. Thanks for all that :o) I'm boiling my eggs right now...

August 24, 2006
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I need to get this straight; gotta be organized (it's the teacher in me)
So far the new "healthy eater" (okay, dieters) are: gg,Shaney,Camer,Zax, and thumkin

All you supporters, please help us. As we all know, this is going to be such a MENTAL BATTLE!

I am going to weigh in the a.m., write it down, plus all that I eat.
I also have got to start drinking water. I drink a whole 8 oz a day, addicted to diet coke.

After such a crappy day and evening, this is now what I am looking forward to.

Please stay in touch everyone.

August 24, 2006
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Hey gg - you've gotta pound that water, girl! I find that when I drink a lot of water, I actually start to crave it... it also helps to curb any feelings of hunger in between meals.

I don't have a scale! Can you believe that? I think that I'm going to measure my waiste, and then measure it again in a couple of weeks. I have found that daily weighing and measuring can be discouraging to me sometimes. So I'm going to try the measuring thing in couple of weeks like I said.

Let's just try to relax and look at this as eating better, not dieting. Good luck friends!

August 24, 2006
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I am going to weight weekly. It looks like I have the most to lose and I hate that I am starting in a crappy mood. Thanks Shaney for being so supportive.

August 25, 2006
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Hi everybody

I finished my paper and I feel so good about it!!

Just wanted to share a really great success story. My friend K started walking to and from her workplace about 2 years ago, I think. Maybe it was 3 years. But it's a 45-minute walk each way.

She started out making no changes at all in her diet and then just very small changes, cutting back on portions, having salad dressing on the side etc.

Well, she has lost EIGHTY POUNDS (80) and is keeping it off, because her exercise is built right into her daily routine.

And I believe there is research showing that for longterm weight maintenance, walking is the very best because it's moderate, doesn't cost anything, and is fun.

So I'll be going for a long walk tomorrow and wishing you all a great "starting day".

hugs to all, kroika

August 25, 2006
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I was able to lose weight when I started walking for 30 to 45 minutes daily..or riding my stationary bike. I ate low fat dairy...organic vanilla soy milk, too. And fruits and vegetables. SMALL amounts of meat (3 ounces was my portion size.)

I need to follow portion control to lose weight, too! Try to eliminate sugar and potato chips...they make you CRAVE more food!

August 25, 2006
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gg

something to help with the sugar cravings, try eating a grapefruit every morning. Grapefruit is a natural sugar/insulin "leveler" it curbs your sugar cravings while stabelizing your blood sugar levels.

August 25, 2006
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thanks Mel, will try the grapefruit

August 25, 2006
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so much good advice!
gg, those healthy Choice, and whatever are fine...just pay attention to calories. And fat content. Carbs are actually not so bad, as long as you move. and excersise is crucial. I do AT LEAST 30 minutes of something cardio every day. 7 days a week. I used to run, and last year I broke my leg and joined a gym to work out on a rowing machine. I've fallen in love with my gym (it's also 3 blocks away so it's so easy) and I now include weights and core work in my routine. I've been active in some sort of sport for many years, but I still have to watch my weight. Big bodies run in my family. So for me it's a day to day life long commitment and at this point it's routine. I am glad I started when I was in my 20's.
Anyway, carrots are awesome. Maybe try veggies in a new way? Like roasted? Use pam spray instead of butter or oil and roast things like califlower, red peppers, broccolli, (it's good looking too)
And the scale can be misleading!! If you do excersise more and gain muscle, you could lose inches and gain weight. A very misleading thing. Jeans area a good barometer.And the scale is good too, just keep in mind that it's not the end all,
Water is good! And now they make all these flavored waters (look at the calories though..) And when you look at calorie info, look at servings per container, and serving size. It can be shocking! One time I bought muffins from a Fresh Fields bakery, thinking they were healthy, the lable said 100 calories per serving! Yea!! Then I saw serving SIZE was ONE QUARTER MUFFIN!!! That was 400 calories for one stinking muffin!!!!

August 25, 2006
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Hey today is the day. I am not off to a good start as far as healthy goes but I did only eat a small handful of princess cereal for breakfast. Maybe a quarter of a cup. I weighed in at 165lbs.

August 25, 2006
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Hey there - today is my protein day... I'm doing two in a row. I have a coffee, an egg, a piece of cheese and a slice of ham for this morning + snack. I'll probably go and get a chicken breast at lunch. Let's do this!

BTW - ALL of you.... GREAT advice - thanks!

August 25, 2006
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Ok guys, i am in the worst slump this month. I was doing e-diet and then my son totaled my second car. I am so depressed, angry, hurting everyone, cant get it together. Now we will need to move by next month. Dont know how but cant take the pressure from the bills, the no car, lawsuits, etc. I would like to join, wont try till Monday, going away possibly this weekend. Shaney your idea is good, 6 small portions of protein. and adding ton. I am very very overweight, like 80lbs. The real key is exercise or walking and i cant even move my body with the pain. Just went in the pool to exercise by i will pay later. Good luck and keep meposted. I need to get out of this depression. I am so scared of being sued by everyone. Please guys i really need all of you at this time. With love, donna

August 25, 2006
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Smarterone - I will keep you in my prayers.

I had a midmorning snack of rice cakes lightly salted.
Ham sandwich with american cheese on wheat bread for lunch.

I really need to be hitting the water, but so far havent forced myself to start that. Maybe this afternoon I will get me a big ole cup of ice and drink it as it melts. That seems to be the only way I can drink water is if its ice cold.

Good luck everyone. I will be off for the weekend and hopefully will behave nutritionally 🙂

Smarterone - I will join you on Monday. Hope your weekend helps lift your spirits.

August 25, 2006
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Hey thumkin - sounds good so far! I'm the same way with the water... it's GOT to be on ice. Good luck this weekend and we'll talk to you when you get back! :o)

smarterone - no worries... we'll get through all of this together. I hate that feeling of doom when you've got crucial things pending. If it makes you feel any better, I've been in a similar situation. My insurance dropped me because of my last wreck, new insurance was impossible to find, and I was barely making ends meet.... but I got through it and know you can too. Write things down, prioritize what needs to be done, make lists that you can realistically complete in a days time - then take one day at a time. And try your hardest not to worry about what hasn't, or may never happen. Your mind can run away with you when you consider all of the horrific possibilities - so only worry about what IS right now.

As for eating better, and exercise... we'll do it together. Remember that the all protein days only last for two days. Depending on your current weight, the weight loss menu that I wrote out above, may not be enough calories for you. We can work on that, but I may not have all the most correct answers for you. BUT, the swimming sounds like great exercise and a great stress reliever. We have a pool and it's hotter than hell here, so jumping in there after work is what I usually do. It's good on your joints too if you experience pain when doing normal workouts. Let's talk more, smarterone :o)

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