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Insomnia is driving me batty--help
May 16, 2006
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I am a huge insomniac but thought I had gotten over it. Then, for the past eight nights, I haven't been able to sleep more than about two to three hours. It is taking its toll on me. My bf says he is so worried because there are such dark circles around my eyes from the lack of sleep. On top of that, for the past two months, I have been having recurring dreams about tidal waves. I am at a loss of how to get myself to go to sleep. What the heck do I do? I am also epileptic which can cause problems when I haven't been able to sleep. I have been making sure to take my medicine though but I am still so tired. Any suggestions?

May 16, 2006
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Thought I would bump the thread up cause it seems to be getting lost among all the others.

May 16, 2006
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Is it apnea? Get a sleep study done if you can. i have the same problem and i went to the doc. He looked at my airway and said it was narrow :(. Hmm - but in the worst case, I can get surgery and that would fix it.

I used to have real good sleep but since november, I've been losing sleep over this girl who came into my life. Often when I wake up, my mind is filled with thoughts of her. Is your mind racing when you wake up?

Before you go to sleep, how are you feeling? Is your mind empty or is it filled with thoughts and worries?

If so, see if you can meditate for 30 minutes. I'm trying this myself nowdays, listening to a meditation CD. That helps you to cram all the worrying stuff into those 30 minutes so your mind is clearer later.

Still I woke up again at 5am last night. Hopefully the sleep study after 3 weeks will help find out whats going on.

Its horrible, horrible to not have our full sleep. It destroys our quality of life :(.

May 16, 2006
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I have trouble with sleep also, sometimes cannot fall asleep and sometimes cannot stay asleep. I know there are relaxation techniques out there that help for trouble falling asleep. I used to sleep really good but since the birth of my son 7 years ago I do have trouble with sleep.

May 16, 2006
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Ambien works great.

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May 16, 2006
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but we cant take it for long term, can we? I want to get my sleep back.

If i use Ambien for just a month, will my sleep be fixed even if I stop using it?

I used to take Remeron but it made me groggy in the day so it was no use.

May 16, 2006
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Not sure about the long term affect. I use it when I am feeling restless and have much on my mind. I don't really ever feel that I have to have it and only take it once or twice a week at the most. I do some folks who take it most everyday.

I tried some of the over the counter stuff with Benedryl and felt like I had a hang over the next day. I don't notice any side effects with Ambien.

Check with your doctor.

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May 16, 2006
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I've been using Lunesta frequently over the past 3 or 4 months. It seems to help keep you asleep throughout the night. Becoming dependent on it is another issue. All these drugs are for limited use only.

May 16, 2006
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Yes my mind is racing and a lot of times I panic about not being able to sleep. I am hoping this will stop soon because of the fact that I am going to venice soon and I don't want to be tired on the trip. I dont really want to become dependent on drugs.

May 16, 2006
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Thanks friends, I'll thin about Lunesta and Ambien then, for short term or intermittent use. Could try it.

Loverbee___, I hope we get our sleep back, I got the same problem. Try meditation. What i got is expensive $170, but people say it works. http://www.centerpointe.com.

Some people say meditation helps to bring up stuff and help us know what we're thinking. good luck!

May 16, 2006
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Hi loverbee, yes insomnia can drive you crazy after all they say lack of sleep is the worst form of torture.
Have you tried Reflexology? I can recommend it. I have never been so relaxed in my life as I am when I'm having my feet massaged! If you don't like your feet being touched try Indian head massage.
guest_guest I listen to centerpointe too! It is very powerful.

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thanks justL, maybe we could talk more. I'm doubtful about centerpointe, dont know if its valid or not. I might start a thread sometime in the Lib brew about meditation.

May 16, 2006
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guest_guest to be honest centerpointe can put people into a state of overwhelm that scares me sometimes and can you be sure what subliminal messages it is giving you?

May 16, 2006
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Took a nap today and for the first time in seven nights I can say that I slept a solid half an hour straight before my head started to race again. I guess that is the best I am going to get.

May 16, 2006
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JustL, I know, some people complain about the overwhelm. I'm hugely skeptical of this thing. I had thought this would be a magic pill but I'm skeptical now sadly. The sad thing is, this is all new so there's no studies to prove the effectiveness of these brainwave things. All we hear is theories etc. "it works for me" "it doesnt work"

May 16, 2006
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hi loverbee, what was going on in ur head when u woke up?

May 16, 2006
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guest, if you ever find that magic pill let me know, I could do with one too.

May 16, 2006
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lover bee, sorry you cannot sleep. once in awhile that has happened to me, but i imagine ovr a long period of time it is painful. i hope you get some sleep soon.

but you say a tidal wave...maybe think about what this means for you. for ex., to me, a tidal wave is heavy, powerful, not anything i can control no matter how hard i try, they overwhelm and drown people if in them. even the word itself though brings a negative feeling, even if you aren't literally in one.

any changes in you life that have been major that you have not faced yet?

just a thought...hope you heal soon though!

May 16, 2006
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justL, i sure will :(. I was lying in bed and I had about 10 seconds of about the lowest strongest anxiety, overwhelm I've ever had. I've never had this this strong. I dont know if its centerpoint, or if its this girl I like who I fear has rejected me because of my apparent low self-esteem. if only I could accept myself.

May 16, 2006
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oh boy, can I relate.

First - over the counter - benedryl has the same active ingredient as sominex or any other OTC sleep aid - all the same. If benedryl makes you drowsy, try taking it to help you sleep. It doesn't do anything for me - could OD on the stuff and not sleep - just my body chemistry.

Melatonin - a natural sleep aid supplement, most drug stores carry it - many people use it to fight jet lag and reset their body clock when traveling - I found that it made my dreams more vivid and unsettling (not scary, just kept me from deep sleep). Again, my body chemistry is to blame - works well for most.

Ambien - most docs approve it for long term use - but you do become dependent on it. I tried it, did okay for a month - then it stopped working - you can build a tolerance to it, as well as dependency. I also read somewhere that if you take an anti-depressant as well, it can cause hallucinations when mixed - this is scary to me, and I am glad I am not taking it anymore. I used to make phone calls in the middle of the night, or answer the phone and not remember it....others report binge eating in the middle of the night because of it....those who had eating disorders were the most prone to this.

Lunesta - I am now taking it. It is approved for long term use. You can be dependent on it. Most insurance companies won't cover long term use, or daily use without prior approval by doctor. I find I sleep better and feel refreshed after 6 hours - and ambien took longer to wear off. So far, this is the one that works for me.

Eating right and exercise is another option - watch the food and caffeine intake before bed....some foods trigger overactive minds and dreams/nightmares - are you eating anything new?

Allergies can trigger insomnia - by making you just uncomfortable enough to fall asleep.

Acid reflux - so mild you probably don't feel it - can also cause insomnia and vivid dreams - the acid backup causes you to be just uncomfortable enough not to sleep, so you stay in that "just dreaming" state. I had reflux bad and when I fixed that a year ago, I slept better - caffeine can make reflux bad, soda, acidic foods, citrus, or food allergies.

Has anything in your room changed? noise level, comfort level, temperature, smell of the sheets, draft in the room, pillow comfort, bed comfort?

There are also a number of articles out there that talk about getting a good night sleep, which includes not doing anything in the bedroom except sleep (and nookie nookie)....that you shouldn't read, watch tv or listen to radio or anything else....that you should associate the room with sleeping alone....and to have a routine to help yourself wind down at night...perhaps a warm bath, some sleepy time tea, reading a book in the living room, journaling, etc....

Also - they say that if you can't sleep, get up and do something in another room until you are sleepy, then go back and try again...don't lie there staring at the ceiling.

easier said than done - I doze, then wake up an hour later, feeling like I never fell asleep - this occurs several times a night - and I end up feeling like a truck ran over me the next day.....I take an anti-depressant and lunesta for my issues.

Hope this helps - insomnia SUCKS.

May 16, 2006
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How is your exercise regimen?

May 16, 2006
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Guest sorry you feel so rejected by this girl, I hope she didn't mean to cause you so much pain, I hope you find a way.
Centerpointe can cause overwhelm I have felt it, it will pass just take a few slow deep breaths and feel the anxiety drain away.

May 16, 2006
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good one ginger...exercise helps!!

May 16, 2006
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JL, thanks. I want to forget and detach from this girl so I'm not hurt again. If she comes again to me, I'll let her know of my terms "dont mess with other men". Today i dont feel like doing the centerpointe thing - i'm trying to do the main point they say "dont resist and let yourself feel". Maybe thats the main thing in this whole program. I've read this in in the book on self-esteem too "honoring the self".

I'm feeling ok right now, hopefully will be the same tomorrow too.

May 17, 2006
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I have tried meditation and had some wonderful insights like 'seeing the bigger picture'. Book recommendation, 'Teach yourself to Meditate' by Eric Harrison, teaches you different forms of meditation to achieve clarity of mind.

I hope you find someone who will treat you in the way you deserve, I don't know the whole story but looks like you are better off without this girl.

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