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I found pills in my son's backpack...
November 2, 2006
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I found two pills with the letters KO imprinted on them in my 16 year olds backpack. Does anyone know what they are? I searched the web and found all kinds of different things- from ecstasy to Tylenol to Oxycontin.

Help!

November 2, 2006
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Have you asked him? How old is he? Has he been known to do drugs in the past? Has he been acting wierd lately? Sorry for all of the questions, I am just trying to be helpful...

November 2, 2006
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this website will allow you to plug in the shape, color and markings.
http://www.drugs.com/pill_iden.....ation.html

November 2, 2006
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Hi Mich,

No, I didn't ask him. He's 16 and a half and never done drugs in the past.
He's a straight A uptight perfectionist. He runs cross country and plays hockey. He's extremely moody, very difficult kid, late bloomer. He's awful to his siblings, and as of late very disrespectful to my husband and I. Has only a handful of friends.

He went away for the summer and was a CIT at a very nice camp. He seemed a little nicer when he came home, but it didn't last very long.

Thanks Mich for taking the time, I really appreciate it.

November 2, 2006
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Would you be comfortble asking him? I would find a way? Does your husband know? Does he seem depressed? I would be worried sick. I am keeping you in my thoughts. I DO hope that you can find out what is going on. One more question...what prompted you to go through his backpack?

Mich

November 2, 2006
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I think I'll wait to talk with my husband. He's a doctor and he may know what they are. He won't be home until later though, it's his call night. I can't stand this, he's just not an easy kid. I don't see any signs of depression. He's just so damn miserable by nature. The reason I went through his backpack was to find some graph paper for my daughter.

Thank you again Mich.

Jastypes- I'll start searching that website, hopefully I'll find something.

Geesh, I can't get over what a dope I'm being. Nothing like a knee-jerk reaction.

November 2, 2006
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I would react the same way Isis. You're human, and you're a mother. You are worried about one of your children, there is nothing wrong with that. It just shows that you are a good mom. Don't be hard on yourself...I would like to think that most moms that care would all react about the same that you are. I do hope that your husband has a clue what they are. Is he pretty level headed? (Your husband) What kind of reaction do you think that your son wouls have if you asked him? Again sorry about so many questions...Just, I care...

Mich

November 2, 2006
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When I found pills in the nightstand of my best friend's teenage son, I called the Center for Poison Control in Atlanta (my pharmacist gave me the number) and they immediately identified the pill and told me what it's effects and dangers were.

Do that. You'll have your answer in 2 minutes flat.

November 2, 2006
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Please keep us updated sweetheart (((Isis))))

November 3, 2006
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OK friends, here's the news.

My hubby was on call all night so I didn't get to see him. This morning I went down to my sons room and just asked him. He says they are TYLENOL that he got from the school nurse. He said he faked sick two weeks ago because he wasn't ready to take a chemistry test. When she gave him the pills he pretended to take them all the while slipping them down his sleeve. Then he laid down and chilled until the class was over. He put them in one of the pockets in his backpack and forgot about them.

Relief. Embarrassed. Feel like an idiot. First, for the stupid knee-jerk reaction. Second, for taking up your time, and third for thinking my son was doing drugs. What's the matter with me? Why was it so damn hard for me to simply ask him? My son was shocked that I thought he was doing drugs. He gave me the lecture on why he will never get involved with drugs and alcohol. He even volunteered to have a drug test. He also wants to sit down with my husband and I have a talk about communication.

I feel like an ass.

November 3, 2006
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You are NOT wasting our time or taking it up, when you are worried....You did what we all would have done too honey. I am glad that you asked him...I am glad to hear what they are. You are a good mom, and don't forget that. We are all here for you, and anytime you get worried like that, we will still be here...

Mich

November 3, 2006
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Thank you... jastypes, RW, Strong. I love you guys.

And Mich... you are the sweetest thing! I make it a point to check in your threads daily to see how you're doing. One of these days I'm going to pop in and say hello.

I wish you the best life has to offer. Keep on keeping on.

Isis

November 3, 2006
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Not to bust anybody's bubble, but in my State (Florida), it is against the law for the school nurse to administer ANY medication without written, parental AND doctor consent forms on file, including Tylenol.

I would check with the school nurse and verify his story, anyway.

Find out what your School District's policy is on medication dispensing. All District's have very strict, written policies on this.

November 3, 2006
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The only way to save our kids somtimes is to be nosey and ask quesitons. You did the right thing. And if it happens again ask again even if it only may be tylonal

November 3, 2006
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Hi Strong

Thanks for the heads up. Same rules apply here (Massachusetts), and I did sign all of the appropriate documents.
What I find puzzling is that she didn't notice that he never actually swallow the pills- didn't even put them in his mouth. He faked it, and slipped them in his sleeve.

Also, I do plan to check with the nurse to see if he was indeed in two weeks ago for some Tylenol. I also would like to know what the deal is with the "KO" imprinted on the tablet.
I've never heard of this brand of generic Tylenol. When I googled "KO pills" what I found was scared the heck out of me. I had thoughts of him taking ecstasy or dropping a "knock-out pill in some poor girls drink. UGH!

Thank you for chiming in Strong.

November 3, 2006
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CALL THE CENTER FOR POISON CONTROL IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. THEY HAVE A TOLL FREE NUMBER. YOU WILL HAVE YOUR ANSWER IN 2 MINUTES.

There is no reason not to make the call, unless you don't want to hear their answer.

Make the call. And call the nurse ASAP, as their hours on campus are limited. If you wait too late in the day, you might not get her. And the nurse is supposed to OBSERVE the student, taking the medication.

You signed a release form for Tylenol to be dispensed to your son? And his doctor also issued written consent? Then, the nurse will have them on file, as well as a written record of what she dispensed to yo

November 3, 2006
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isis--my son volunteered to take a drug test too. And he failed. Keep inquiring.

November 3, 2006
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UPDATE:

Strong- I called the Poison Control Center and they told me to check out drugs.com. They said they could not help me! I checked drugs.com and it did not find anything in the database. So- I called the school nurse. He was in on October 19th "feeling dizzy with a headache".
And low and behold, he was administered a generic form of Tylenol with the letters "KO" imprinted on them.

Phew! He was telling the truth after all.

I told the nurse what took place and she was a little bit squirmy with me, saying that she gave him the pills and then he went to the kitchen area, IE: sink to get a cup of water. What took place in between... she admittedly lost track of him and didn't follow him to see if he actually swallowed the pills.

I suppose I can put this one to rest.

Thanks again everyone, I really appreciate your support and advice.

November 3, 2006
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Isis,

You must be very relieved! That's great. Have that talk about communication with your family. You won't regret it.

November 3, 2006
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I am glad that you checked it out thoroughly. I have served as a chaplain with juvenile offenders for two years and learned how important it is for parents to stay "on top" of such incidents. You did the right thing, checking it out so thoroughly.

I am surprised that you could not get a positive response from the Poison Control Center. They have helped me, many times.

At least, all turned out well.

- Strong

November 3, 2006
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Strong,

I want to thank you for being there for me, for helping me find the strength to dig in and follow through and get the job done.

What I find so mind-boggling is that I too worked with teenagers before I had my own kids and while they were still very young, and back then I knew exactly what to do. Perhaps it's the fact that they are my own that makes it so much more difficult for me now. And the fact that I'm so overwhelmed with having four children, and having ADD, and being co-dependent, and battling depression, etc, etc, etc.

Anyway, again, THANKS!

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