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I am mad and I have held my tongue as long as I can....
February 27, 2011
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no need to be so cynical ma, we can just ignore it and be stronger

February 27, 2011
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Do y’all think the site has really changed that much since, say Oct 2010, or June 2010, or Jan 2010?  Ok true,  the format has changed, just a little.  It’s still the same institutional green, though.  And all the old writings are from the old site, which, IMO, at the very least screams out apathy on the part of this “new” admin. 

 

It’s like it has a new front door and a winding foyer, that makes it a little harder to get to the old wing, Support.  All the furniture in Libs is covered now. Frown  I wonder if they’ll try to rent out the new wing?  You know, the one that has the new categorized topics, started by new people, those that never return or join the discussions on Support?

 

There is of course, the pm feature, which we’ve already seen the advantages and disadvantages of that.

 

After the grand opening statements, there doesn’t seem to be much moderation or participation by admin.  No response from mods re: what’s happening at the site, privately or publicly.  There are still some posts that mysteriously disappear with no explanation, such as “post deleted by admin”.  Two of mine disappeared from WorriedDad’s thread, one before Isis’ post, and the one after.  Isis’ didn’t. 

 

I just don’t see much difference from "former” admin.  The only difference that I can see is that donations are no longer asked for, and with the new format change, (and possibly a management- in- title- only- change), the google ads are back.    

February 27, 2011
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good point bevdee, only difference i see is the attitude of posters, much more paranoia over NOTHING in my opinion, and not to mention people provoking online arguements, it truly baffles me why so many people feel betrayed and confused by this, the only thing that annoys me is people who randomly log on and just throw in soemthing to stir a pot of arguements, and posts randomly disapear? weird, i havent noticed that, none of mine have to my knowedge,

 

i just think a few people who stir up online anonymous arguements are making vulnerable people here scared, which i find annoying and frankly disgusting, but hey, this is the internet, if you want class go to a school, in this world anyone can type anything without fear, its the reason why WE join, including the harrasers.

 

hope everyone is having a good day, you too bevdee 🙂

February 27, 2011
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Zarathustra,

 

I'm talking about the house, not the residents. Do I hear you saying that even with the change in the attitude, the admin is basically the same?  If so, I agree.  If not, you might not have gotten the point of my post.  I don't see how it's different from 9 months ago, the lack of moderation, or participation.  Yes, my posts did disappear.  Something slipped by you, dude!!!!  Imagine that. 

February 27, 2011
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yes bevdee rxactly what i meant, exactly the same, same house, just a new paintjob and some new kitchen appliances, but the same

March 8, 2011
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Z-

 

I don't recall threatening people.  That's not something that quite fits me.  Perhaps you could point out the threads where I supposedly did this so that I can appropriately defend/explain myself.  Thank you so much.

 

Ma and Chinadoll- I am so sorry for what has happened to you here.

 

andii

March 8, 2011
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Yeah Z, I would definitely like to get this cleared up.  Because when I googled what Ma suggested, I got nothing about andii threatening people and I find that strange.  Perhaps my google is working differently than yours or something.

 

  I hope all is well with you and look forward to your response.

 

andii

March 9, 2011
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Thanks, Andi

March 9, 2011
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sorry about all that andii, for the record you dont need to defend yourself, i honestly dont care and only brought that up because thats what i found when i googled what ma asked, i think it was like the 4th search result or something, honestly andii there is no need to explain/defend yourself. i apologize if that was any inconveniance or anything, i honestly dont care, you dont need to defend yourself andii

March 9, 2011
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WEll, I'd like to apologize to the person I threatened.  Who was it?  I looked through everything that came up on google.  I don't see anybody being threatened by me.  What did I threaten somebody with and who was it? 

 

I'd like to know Z.

 

andii

March 10, 2011
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you didnt threaten anyone, it had to do with you having multiple nicknames, and people freaking out saying you were more than the two or three that you were claiming to be and that people didnt feel safe anymore and how could they trust you, and i think you created a thread that asked people if they felt threatened by you because destiny star said she did and you were asking other members if they felt threatened by you and some said yes and some said no, it was very reminiscent of what happened not too long ago, it happened i think in '07 from what i remember, i dont recall you threatening anyone, its just that people were complaining that you used other nicknames and that you werent being truthful about your background story, i think i read something that someone said you were a liar that your name isnt andii, that you posted that your name came from a horse you once owned or something, to me it seemed like a ridiculous arguement, in my opinon those people asking you to confirm or deny any personal information you divulged at the time were breaking the rules of the site, which was anonymity, even if you posted personal information (which is addmittadly was against the rules during the time) they shouldnt have bothered to try to make you confess what is true or not, they should ignored it, two wrongs dont make a right, from what i saw you werent harrasing anyone like a certain person was here not too long ago, you just had more than one nickname, and people were freaking out, dont people realize this is an anonymous support group? we have no way of knowing hois being truthful or not, and in my opinion that shouldnt matter, if someone comes asking for support we should give it, and if we ask for some ourselves then we should recieve it, otherwise why are we here? this fear of people telling lies is baffling to me,  i admit i overreacted my self at one point but seriously who cares? andii you have no need to defend or explain yourself, i apologize for bring such a thing up, i did not mean to make you feel uncomfortable or anything like that, i think your an amazing person and poster, and i have only seen kind words from you, something i cant even say for myself.

March 10, 2011
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Andii -

Don't care if you've had FIFTY nicknames...you have always been supportive and kind to me and a straight shooter.  Not one of the venemous Site predators EVER. 

And sadly, those Site predators appear to have successfully killed AAC.  Most regular posters have conceded defeat and left.  I dearly miss many of them and the clean and supportive input they offered.  A very sad ending.  AAC will never be the same.

Just wanted you to know that you are appreciated by ONE person here, if no other...

- Ma Strong

March 10, 2011
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thank you for clearing that up Z.  What you described did indeed happen- I was targeted by a group of posters for standing up for somebody and it was pretty violent as far as the cyber world goes.  And of course there's Destiny aka all kinds of names and personas, who targets everybody at one time or another.  That's her thing.

 

Ma, as always, your words are so kind and warm.  Thank you.  Unfortunately I have to agree with your perception of AAC.  It's not a warm and supportive place to be due to but a few people.  I'm sure as they read this they feel powerful with that concession.  for me it's best to keep a distance from people like this as they bring darkness wherever they go, they could blacken a rainbow and gain joy from that.  These people can only change if they want to, and there's but a small percentage who do.

 

Perhaps ma, this is just a time of transition for AAC.  I come check in periodically and read to see what's going on.  "Lurker!"  lol  and post sometimes.  I'm thinking maybe your old friends have't left for good either.

 

andii

March 10, 2011
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you know some of the threads have like 500 views and only like 50 posts, i have no idea what that means, is it new members just checking it out or something? makes me think twice what i post to be honest, i wont lie, i have been goingthrough another rough patch personally right now, and there is no one i can really turn to, but i dont feel comfortable sharing info, not from fear of legal consequences or anything, i just dont want any headaches or arguements when i come here to share and seek support,

 

and i do think this site has lost its allure, no real new memers because of the non-user friendlyness and dificulty finding the threads, and old members vamoosed with all the annoying postings, only the stubborn ones like myself and the rest of you seem to stay lol, i wonder if all of us was in an actual arguement in real life who would give up first and which one of us stubborn mules would stick to the end lol ( as a discalimer, i am saying that with a playful tone, please no one mis-interpret that and think i am calling someone stubborn as an insult) lol have to be safe now, i dont want to be the next target of mass accusations

March 11, 2011
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Hello all,

Andii, I am also a lurker - sometimes I just read and think about what people have said but I have nothing to add.  I'm sticking to "better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt."  It has definitely been an eye opener on these boards about how words can wound and how some wounded folks use them (I include myself in this category).  I still have so much to learn.  I am also sad that the muck on the boards has driven out some posters that I have gotten a lot of insight from.

 Z, I like what you offered about stubborness.  I have watched this play out in real life.  When I asked some people to back me up when a bully would come around again, they agreed.  When the bully showed up, these same folks stood off to the side, did nothing, and simply asked me what were the results.  For me, it continues to be a struggle deciding which battles to chose, what to walk away from, and to trust what people are telling me about themselves.  This was just one situation that has come up in my real life.  At the moment, I am exhausted from it and feel very protective of myself.  I know these are growing pains and eventually I trust that I will be able to handle situations with more grace like healthy people.

March 11, 2011
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Hi andii.

Thanks for your kind words. I have been so busy lately, I can't seem to keep up with things on AAC, but I did see your note, and I wanted to say that I appreciate that you were thinking of me.

March 11, 2011
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I know of a safe cafe where everyone is welcome with tons of sunshine. Smile

March 11, 2011
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Where?

March 13, 2011
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Good question, Bevdee.  I'd like to hear the answer to that one, myself.

-  Ma

March 14, 2011
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Miss Strong, 

I think that one was a one hit wonder.  

March 14, 2011
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lol one hit wonder, nice one bevdee, funny lol

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