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I am mad and I have held my tongue as long as I can....
February 22, 2011
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I have been around this site for a while now.  I have seen flame wars come and go.  I have seen people who finally agree to disagree and cut each other a wide berth.  I even had someone once, who I felt stalked me from thread to thread.  I tried my best to ignore them.

In the last month I have started two new threads.  One was Life Is All About Growth and Change and the other was My Secret Safe Place.

The Growth and Change thread spun out of control.  So much so that even though I started the thread I am as lost as anyone else.  I have received emails and private messages from people on this site about some of the things going on.  We all now realize there is no moderation going on here and there hasn't been for months.

I read the post Chinadoll posted one night about having left the room and everyone talking about her.  I read the statement she made about "maybe I should just shoot myself".  I nor anyone else I know read that statement as a serious threat to her own life.  I took it as sort of tongue in cheek.  Sort of along the lines of "I'll just go eat worms".  Hopefully no one is making the mistake of thinking I am actually going to eat worms.

At the time that statement was made Chinadoll and I had been in contact.  If I had thought she was a threat to herself I would have tried to contact her to find out what was going on. 

Because of one busybody, "pot stirrer" who CHOSE to misinterpret a statement and apparently go to some trouble to find the right authorities to report the statement to..Yell.MY FREAKING TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING WASTED TO INVESTIGATE A MENTAL HEALTH SITE TO SEE IF THERE IS A TERRORIST THREAT AGAINST A MEMBER OF THE ARMED SERVICES.Yell

YellNOW IF I WANTED TO REPORT SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG I WOULD CONTACT MY CONGRESSMAN AND REAM HIM ABOUT WASTING MY MONEY!!!!!Yell

Every one of you here ought to be just as upset about that as I am.  I have lost track of who is on whose side in this whole mess and I really don't much care anymore.  If this had been handled in a mentally healthy, adult manner my tax dollars wouldn't be being wasted.Confused

I understand why the government has to check this out now, but I really hate that it has happened. 

DID ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE SERIOUSLY THINK CHINADOLL MEANT TO HARM HERSELF????

Now to address the other thread I started...I no longer think of this place as My Secret Safe Place.  You are all free to carry on as you wish.

Bitsy

February 22, 2011
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No one could POSSIBLY have thought Chinadoll meant to harm herself.  I read that posting.  It was simply "venting."  Not a genuine threat of suicidal intent.  I can only conclude that someone with an axe to grind pounced on that posting as an excuse for initiating harassment of Chinadoll on a personal level.  Chinadoll and I do not "click;" however, I agree that what happened to her was an outrage.

-  Ma Strong

February 22, 2011
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Hi Bitsy,

You have every right to be angry- I am angry as hell, too.

I've been here since 2004 (actually 2003- I read for one straight year before I had the courage to post), back then it was a nice place to come to for support. It was a much kinder, safer place back then. I thought that the "new site" was a positive change... not any more. 

Same site, same shit, different day.

The only upside to the change is that now we are able to contact people outside of AAC's walls. I am thankful that I am able to continue my support group in a safe "off campus" setting. 

I truly feel so sorry for what is happening to Chinadoll, as well as the other posters that have been targeted. Especially Ma.

I hope you are doing well, and that you continue to blossom and grow. You really are a sweet, kind-hearted person. 

All the best to you,

Isis

February 22, 2011
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hey ladies i hope none of you mind me poking in, i for one agree that what has happened to china doll is horrible,

and i have said this multiple times already, i just want everything to be dropped please, ma - i understand you are feeling harrassed, i understand you are angry but i havent seen any angry or annoying posts recently i hope no more PMs are coming your way again, unless they are friendly,

 

and i dont want to say anything to anyone that is not polite, please i want AAC back. i want the same site that helped me, a depressed guy who still lives in a violent home. this site has helped me alot, i have made two close friends on here, one of them i am so close to we are even facebook friends and chat almost daily.

 

i am asking anyone and everyone, please can we just be nice to eachother? i am not asking anyone to apologize to anyone, ill do it, I APOLOGIZE IF ANYONE HAS BEEN OFFENDED OR HURT. but please no more accusations, no more annoying posts, please can we just support eachother? you ladies are some of the senior posters in which i have much respect for, and ma i dont always agree with you either, but i respect you and honestly believe you only want the good for people, and for that i will happily share any conversation with you.

 

i am on no ones side. i am on the side of keeping AAC a site that made me join, in the hopes that people who need help like i did will join.

 

(((((((((((((hugs to everyone, hug back people, i am a big guy and my hugs are nice)))))))))))))))

February 22, 2011
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Z -

Let me point out the obvious:  Whoever strategized and initiated this personal/professional harassment of Chinadoll is STILL ALIVE, BREATHING AND SCOPING OUT THESE THREADS FOR NEW VICTIMS.   So, it is impossible for any of us to relax and return to normal posting and exchange of communication here at AAC.  We are ALL potential victims of a PREDATOR.  Yes...many of us know the identity of that predator...but stating/proving it could cost many posters their jobs, their marriages, their peace. 

This thread predator is certainly sick...a deviant who focuses all her idle time on plotting vendettas against any and all posters who have opposed or annoyed her.  Chinadoll was not her FIRST victim...only her first, publicly attacked victim who suffered tangible consequences (i.e., investigation by military/police authorities).  A sickening achievement for this psychopath.  Other "private" assassinations and slander campaigns have been (successfully) launched by this seriously disturbed individual.

So, Z...much as I would love to see "normalcy" return to the threads, that is not possible, until this unbalanced person is stopped.  And since her "Reign of Terror" is going totally unchecked and ignored by the current AAC Site Administrators, this Site remains unsafe for most of us.

Take note of how many people have READ this thread, but refrain from posting.  That ought to tell you something.  People need their jobs....their marriages...their personal peace.  And they are wise to protect themselves from further attacks which could affect them on a serious, personal level.

 

-  Ma Strong

February 22, 2011
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Chinadoll -

Although we do not see eye-to-eye, I want you to know that I am outraged by what has happened to you.  I wish I had it in my power to "right the wrong" done to you.  I can only trust God to protect and vindicate you from the attack of this Site's resident predator.  You will not be her last victim.  It is my hope that the authorities, investigating your own situation, will identify and prosecute the guilty party. 

-  Ma Strong

February 23, 2011
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I am feeling sad/angry that many of the posters that have helped me make some positive changes in my life have left this site.  Bitsy, I was so excited at the thread you had started and then I stepped away because the focus was torn away from its original intent.  I am also feeling uneasy putting too much out there because of the situation that you mentioned which doesn't make sense because I feel like this site is for working things out in your life.

February 23, 2011
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Hi,((Bitsy)) Geesh..I have read some of what is going on BUT I really can't keep up with everything.Anyways I miss how this site use to be also the support & kind people.Gosh,where have that gone?..I feel sad for this site but to be honest I have felt sad for this site way before the site change.Well,I guess it was helpful while it lasted.I'm very thankful to have come across all of you.Thank you..You will be missed Bitsy<3

February 23, 2011
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Bitsy, I didnt think it was a genuine suicide threat.  I also resent that my tax dollars are spent the ways they are in the military, checking out this site one of them.  It creeps me out to think that the police and military police are reading.  (HI fellas!!)  I'll try to keep any opinions that aren't pro military to myself. 

 

Chinadoll, I would like to talk with you in on the site someday, but because of the circumstances, for now, I'll just say positive good earth energy flowing toward you ~~ 

February 23, 2011
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Who woulda thunk?? that something like this would occur on AAC.  As the saying goes, truth is stranger than fiction.  I don't think any of us could have made up a story like this one.

 

China- I'm so sorry your participation on this site has been so disruptive and destructive to your personal life.  That really is appalling.  I hope everything works out OK for you and that whoever is doing this is caught.  Too bad the Administrators of this site don't seem to care ( as far as I can see from the postings).  Seems that if something were to occur to someone that the administrators could be held responsible for not stopping it.

February 23, 2011
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ma, again, i havent seen any accusations from our would be attacker in a while, i am asking please ma, i honestly think it is pretty much at an end already, i understand you anger but can we please just let it slide? posting name calling whether or not you believe it justified only stirs the pot, i have done my own name callignand i am sick with myself for it and have apologized, i havent seen any harrasment going on for a while, i TRULY do understand why you would be so annoyed, you even made some wrongful accusations at china doll claiming she was one of the "many names" but i take it you think she isnt anymore, i myself made the same mistake to be honest. regardless, who cares? can we please just support eachother? and when a new "harrasment" begins, i reccomend we all just ignore it, as seeing how responding only brings headaches about. but whatever, everyone do what they want, i am only asking that current members forgive and forget, if someone posts asking for help isnt it that what we should do? we are scaring away members keepingn this stupid arguement alive, can we please just drop it? i havent seen any new harrasment going on, and i believe in innocent untill proven guilty.

 

please people, everyone have a great day 🙂

February 23, 2011
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Z -

Again, the threat to all posters remains unresolved.  I have been here many years and am sickened by the destruction of these threads.  People used to be SAFE here, Z.  Now, their jobs, their marriages, their personal lives are under attack by someone with mental health issues.

That is something I take very seriously.  It has nothing to do with "laying down a hatchet."  There is no peace to be made with disturbed individuals who will stop at nothing to destroy the personal lives of innocents posters on a support thread.  Ask Chinadoll how she feels about having the police, knocking at her door...because of a venemous and mentally ill stalker on these threads?

She is NOT the only victim of this harassment.

Why do you think so many people have "viewed" this thead, but hesitated to post?  FEAR OF RETALIATION from this sick person.

Respectfully,

Ma Strong

February 23, 2011
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Z -

By the way, the attacker has never been overtly aggressive or antagonistic towards her "prey."  She is charming, beguiling, supportive and just downright comfy to her victims, setting them up for the "kill."   This is a clever sociopath.  Not to be underestimated. 

Beware and be vigilant, my young friend.  The one with whom you are casually joking and flirting on the threads could be the AAC Predator, setting you up for her next slaughter.  She PLAYS her victims and laughs at their ingenuity and naivete, while seducing them for the her next campaign.

- Ma Strong

February 24, 2011
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lol i openly allow anyone who thinks they can mess with me to try, thank you for the sympathies ma, but unlike chinadoll, i have nothing to lose or gain.

 

i think you might be blowing things out of proportion ma, then again i can be very naive abou the whole sutuation as you have saiid, i wouldnt dubt it or be surprised if you or i were right to be honest, and i laugh if anyone tries to make my life more complicated, asi have joked about before, how do you scare a suicidal person? threaten to make me eat my vegetables and force me to live a long and healthy life? PLEASE NO ONE MAKE ME STOP EATING BACON! I LOVE IT!

lol again thank you for the sympathies and advice ma, i do believe you are a good person who means well.

i guess only in time will we see what is going on,

 

i will say this though, i think its POSSIBLE that someone tried to do the same with me, destiny star, a name you mentioned to me who is someone i have no idea who it is, ad i do not want to say if this person has another nickname or not, honestly i dont know, this person claimed to be someone under another nickname but changed it after the switch, she asked for my personal information which i politely declined to offer and asked her to please tell me who she is since she claimed to know me so well, and after that one PM no more response,

 

was that a possible threat to me? yes, it is possible destiny star was trying to set up the same thing with me, it is also possible that destiny star was a scared poster wanting to talk to me on a more private level, i dont know, but i do know i will not give anymore private information out, i have said my name and age and city before simply to prove the point that it is safe to do so, but i reccomend NO ONE does it just in case,

 

and for the record destiny star was very polite to me in the PM, but i found her message to me odd, especially since i have never heard of her before.

 

i apologize to everyone for revealing what was sent to me in a PM, dont think i do do this in case you are wanting to PM, me, i respect privacy very much and i promise to never ask anyone private questions, just as i have never done, i merely mention this because it is relevant to the topic, and i apologize if destiny star is innocent of anything and i revealed that she PMd me.

February 24, 2011
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Destinystar has more than one "nic."  Be careful.  You have shared some very personal data on this Site.  It CAN kick you in the rear in the hands of the WRONG predator.

-  Ma Strong

February 24, 2011
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Z -

Google "Destinystar All About Counseling" & do your own homework.

-  Ma Strong

February 24, 2011
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wow, i did google what you asked ma, and all i can say is that apparently these are idiotic debates dating back a few years, what i found was threads from 09, about how people were threatened by andii. its like deja vu a i swear, almost word for word the same posts 2 years ago just different names. and destiny star sounding like you, very aggravated by a supposed multi faced and provoking andii.

 

andii i am not bringing that up, as i have said before i enjoy sharing posts with you and frankly dont have the slightest interest in anything dating back that far, from before i was even a member.

 

honestly, after seeing those posts years ago, it just makes me care even less, attacking the supposed mult faced person doesnt seem to do anything, i understnad that the temptation to write back an angry post to someone you believe to be a blatant liar is too hard to give up sometimes, but honestly, this is reminding me why i wanted to leave AAC myself, frankly i am surprised I havent been accused of being someone else.

 

i am losing alot of my desire to help here, seeing people trying to scheme and plot there way into other peoples personal lives, i just dont understand who the hell would join a mental health support site with the desire to hurt someone. and i dont want any harrassment from my post now please, i am simply stating what i have stated from the begining, with the addition that i am just tired, i am worn out repeating myself, apparently this is something that will never leave, as i have said before, i am RESIGNED. these people (or quite possibly one person, for all i know, i am talking alone to one person with 3000 nicknames) are never going to leave, in a cyber world where insults and taunts do nothing what is the point? i am not even going to post to someone "please dont write to me" because that is an open invitation for someone to start a stupid arguement, i am tired of this debate, as i have said before, i will post no more personal information, and i reccomend everyone follows suit, and i say we all just support those who ask for it and say nothing else. we really are turning this site into a monster, regardless of who is right, the provoker wins making us create these posts.

 

i saw no record of destiny star possesing multiple nicks, but i wouldnt doubt it if she was accused of such a thing and if she/he admitted it in the past. from what i saw this happens repeatedly here, i have no idea how anyone has the strength to contiue arguing wth these people. i am trying very hard to keep my desire to come back, i like it here, i have a good friend, and it once helped me, and i would like to think it can still help other people.

 

i honestly couldnt care less anymore. and ma i thank you again for the warning, i know you mean well, but honestly, an online hacker trying to find a way to harras me is the least scariest thing i have faced, and i bet thats true for alot of people here. remember how strong you are people. you made it this far, dont let paranoia drive you away now.

 

love from z to all

February 24, 2011
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aww! bitsy we hijacked another thread from you! im sorry, i hope everything is ok with you, i miss you kind words here 🙂

February 25, 2011
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Z, You posted your info.  name, a/s/l.  Be careful about posting about your suicidal feelings here.

February 25, 2011
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lol again, thank you bevdee, but i fear nothing but lizards, so unless a muti-nicknamed person is hiding outside my house right now with a giant iguana, i have no reason why to fear.

 

on a rational note, i come from a big city, with many people with my EXACT name and even a few within my EXACT age. so its litteraly almost impossible to know which one is me, and on even more logical and rational note, there is no way to know i am being factual is there? i can have made up that name and everything! i could know the real person i claim to be and just use his name here for whatever reason! i even live in a house with multiple people, whose to say i am not one of them pretending to be me? its almost litteraly impossible for someone to prove this is me, the EXACT me. so i have nothing to fear. besides, who knows? maybe after a reasonable amount of time has passed and people realize a swat team hasnt kidnapped me people will begin to feel less tense. relax people, i am fine and safe, and honestly i dont care what you believe from me, the way things are with paranoia, i wouldnt be surprised if someone accused me of being part of the roswell new mexico alien landing. i am litterally waiting for the moment for someone to accuse ME of having multiple nicknames, i can just hear the arguements against me "NO ONE IS THAT SUPPORTIVE AND NICE! HE MUST BE NIXON!"

 

and for the record, lizards are scary, that is a completely understandable fear, nothing unmanly about that. lol

 

hugs everyone! hug back!

February 25, 2011
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Hi everyone!

Thanks to everyone for your kind thoughts and supportive comments. My laptop was returned to me a couple of days ago, and I have been busy trying to get caught up on a bunch of stuff. I don't know if the investigation is still open or if it is closed. They pretty much just gave me the laptop back and said they have what they need, so if they are continuing with anything, they are not telling me anything more at this point.

 

If there is anyone who should be more upset by all of this, it should be me. And at this point, I am not. I am just grateful to have my laptop back and can hopefully go back to life as usual.

 

Ma,

I appreciate your comments about wanting to "right the wrong", and I accept your apology, I think there was one in that post.

I do wish to say that a lot of the focus that they continued to ask me about was what appeared to be your concerns about my mental, emotional and financial situation, which were mentioned by you more than once, they said. Those comments were posted by you about me in more than one thread, it looked like. Also, they seemed to think it was more than one person that was targetting me. They told me that it looked to them like you and auto999 participated in more than one exchange on more than one thread regarding my personal information. I did not post any of my own information with regard to email address, location, etc. They were also intrigued as to why you mentioned that the man you date is a retired Master Sgt. They kept asking me if I knew you, if you are in the military, and if you had "other" military connections. I told them I do not know you personally, and I don't even know your real name. But they asked me over and over again why it looked like you posted on the pm to auto999 that you would need my true identity if I do not know you. I told them I have no idea why you need to know that.

I am just saying what they said.

Anyway, at this point, I am not even upset with you or auto999 about any of this. I am trying to just go forward. I had no control over what you and auto999 posted, and I do not wish to control what anyone posts. I have no control over what other people choose to do, not like I ever did. I'm just going to do my best at this point to put this situation behind me and learn from it.

 

Z, I would have to disagree with you, I think mice are creepier than lizards! I see a lot of lizards when I go out in the field, since we are close to the desert. I am deathly afraid of mice, and my bf laughs at me. I agree with you, there is no reason to live in fear. After all that I have been thru, all I can say is that it could always be worse. Smile

I think Bevdee wrote that comment to you, because my situation got worse after someone thought I wrote a suicide note on here...although comments with my personal information were posted before I even wrote that--which was not even a serious suicide note. To me, it was just making a point, it's just the way I talk sometimes. Hey, there is a guy at work that threatens almost every day that he will stab himself with a pen (when he gets mad) and we just laugh at him. Laugh

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HOW ARE MICE SCARIER THAN LIZARDS?! mice are cute and fuzzy, lizards are scaly and ugly and they have wierd mouths and wierd beak like faces, and they crawl all over you like arg! so freakin nasty, i might need therapy just to cut my grass because of the lizards lol

 

i am happy you got your laptop back china, i enjoy crossing threadw with you 🙂

 

and lizards are scarier than mice, how is this even a discussion? rats are KIND of scary, but nothing like lizards. i guess we just have to agree to disagree, but i think everyone will agree i am right lol.

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I have never had a lizard crawl on me. Well, I never had a mouse crawl on me either, but I can't stand them! I scream and jump on the furniture if I ever see them. When I was a little girl, in Asia, my relatives took us to see a movie, and these rats in the movie ate some radioactive chemicals and grew really big and ate people. I was traumatized ever since. I never liked mice or rats ever since I saw that movie. My bf says I need to go to exposure therapy, where they make you be around the things you are scared about! He always knows just what to say!! Smile

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a movie about radioactive rats scared you? HAVE YOU EVER HEARD ABOUT GODZILLA? lol

if one of my friends made me do exposure therapy, i would sooooooo get them back for that. lol put me in a room surrounded by lizards?! no thank you, i would rather have a meeting with all my exes as they talk about how i failed to satisfy them in different ways.

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