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How in the hell do get rid of headlice??
September 26, 2007
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Any bright ideas?? My ten year old has a FULLY thick head of hair....covered in headlice. Probably 5,000 nits in her hair...and I don't think that is an exaggeration....

September 26, 2007
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You can buy lice kits from the pharmacy and use them.

September 26, 2007
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We had a terrible outbreak with my bf's daughter. I still have nightmare's about it. They just kept coming back and back until I learned the secret!

1) Get Licefreee! It's an all natural remedy and it's better than Rid or Nix. You can use it every day if you need to. Rid and Nix are very toxic and dangerous, and didn't work for us anyway. The licefreee (3 e's at the end) did.

2) Buy some hair gel, the really thick stuff. When you comb nits out, start at the root with the gel. It slows down the bugs and you can get them out. It also helps get the eggs out. My sister says it suffocates the lice also. Comb through her whole head and then LEAVE THE GEL IN. Let your daughter just hang out like that with her hair in a ponytail. Her hair should be totally soaked in it.

3) You need to wash everything in hot water, bedding, clothes, soak the brushes. Spray the stuff you can't wash with rid or nix spray, but be careful not to use it on sheets and pillows because it's really toxic. Stuffed animals need to be put in plastic and then put away for 2 weeks, then you can take them out, shake them outside and bring them back in.

When bf's daughter got the lice, I gave all my sons buzz cuts. Only my littlest one had the tiniest bout with it. Long haired people are most at risk. And lice prefer children to adults.

I read in Time magazine about a lady in Texas who de-louses homes for a pretty penny. There might be one in your area but I wouldn't count on it.

Good luck scared! Any chance she might like a hip new short hair-do?

September 26, 2007
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Hey Mich. Other than this incident, I hope all is well with you!

Anyway, some years back, my girls got this from some neighbor kids. I battled and battled, and tried EVERYTHING to no avail! It was a true NIGHTMARE!

Finally, I tried a method someone had mentioned that worked.

Mayo and saran wrap. You goop this stuff on very generously, to the whole head and scalp. (do this before bed-time.) Then wrap their head with saran wrap and have them sleep with this in their hair over night.

In the morning when you rinse, anything and everything, is DEAD! Comb out as much as you can with the special lice combs, (that come in the kits that don't work, lol). And also, you will have to pull some out yourself, with your fingers.

In know how disgusting this sounds, but I tell ya', it WORKS! I didn't believe in anything until I tried this! (even after trying kerosene)

And also, like mentioned above, the hot water, vacuuming, anything that can go in the dryer, (for the heat), spray, bag up stuffed animals, ect...

This became a quest for me! Even did some experimenting, by saving some of the buggers after a treatment of whatever kind, and would look at it under a magnified glass with a light. These little guys could survive just about anything! Even the kerosene! That only caused a short nap, and then they were revived! YUCK!

Anyway, just thought I'd share. This is one time when I'm glad my face is anonymous! LOL! These were not the best days of my life, but damn, am I ever excited to share this remedy ON-LINE with you and the whole world just by seeing your thread!

Best of luck to you! I know how awful this is...been there, done that, bought the t-shirt and BURNED IT!!

((((((Mich and daughter)))))))

September 26, 2007
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Oh yeah, and this little experience is when I learned where the word "knit-picking" came from! I'm afraid the connection was never there before then! lol...

(((HUGS)))

September 26, 2007
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"This became a quest for me! Even did some experimenting, by saving some of the buggers after a treatment of whatever kind, and would look at it under a magnified glass with a light. These little guys could survive just about anything! Even the kerosene! That only caused a short nap, and then they were revived! YUCK!"

Jenni, you are hilarious! That's the last thing I would like to do - save them for a later observation under the microscope! Lol!

September 26, 2007
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Ok, now after going back and reading my initial post, I just want to clear up any thoughts, in case I may have caused some visuals of me dousing my girls' scalps with kerosene. This experiment seemed hopeful when we thought the louse died, (when actually, he just passed out for a while.)

I added a little kerosene to the shampoo, (not lice shampoo), and was VERY careful when doing this. But looking back, it probably was not a good idea, and I do not recommend this to anyone out there. (I was just desperate at the time, and was willing to try just about anything.)

Anyway, just wanted to clear the record! I think that's really it now!

Good luck, Michy!!

September 26, 2007
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Thank you, Matteo. I'm certainly not a proud woman! lol...

September 26, 2007
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There is a true scientist inside you, Jenni!

September 27, 2007
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I think it's called a "Curious Mind", (and some strong determination!)

Parenthood definitely brings out the best in us! lol...

September 27, 2007
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Mich:

We used the RID shampoo. The main thing in whatever you use is to get the 3P's: piperonyl butoxide, pyrethrum, polyoxyethylene, phenyl ether. Woops, Best Choice has 4P's. If your delousing shampoo does not have these then it will not take. Also, we redid our hair in 7 days. Key also is the combing. You must run that little bitty comb thru every piece of hair. I wish I'd known about the hair gel mentioned above. I think we used conditioner and didn't rinse it all out.

Also, IF you do not treat the entire home there is a chance you didn't get them all. HOT water w/ bleach or colorfast bleach ALL bedding, clothing on the floor, bed, etc. I even took te clothes out of the dresser and rewashed them. I was afraid one of the little buggers fell off when she was getting her clothes out. Spray down the couch, chairs, carpets, everything. Whatever spray you get be sure the P's are in there also. I think we just used bugkiller w/ the P's. This I should not admit I guess, but I will.... When the kids got up in the AM we threw their sheets in the wash and I lightly sprayed their beds and pillows w/ the bug spray also. Very lightly and left in the air all day. Didn't made the beds until they were ready to get into them.

Another thing... DO NOT take your daughter to a hair salon to get her hair cut until you know for sure the lice are gone. In my state anyway, if a beautician is cutting hair and sees headlice she must immediately stop and tell you to leave. They will not finish the cut.

We had them bad in our school one year and my oldest kept getting reinfested and I actually burned our heads coz we used to much of the shampoo. NO more than one time a week.

Great advice above. I never tried the mayonaisse treatment but know several that did. Didn't seem as affective, but it did work.

Best too you. Just DON"T skip any of the steps you need to use. Also, if you need help the school nurse might come out or send one of the aids from the school out. I know they went out to the homes if asked here.

September 27, 2007
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Thanks to ALL of you...My daughter is an emotional disaster area. I feel horrible over this whole thing.

This is homecoming week and her class is doing a float...and it is spirit week.

She has had to have had it for a little while....as I swear to God..and this is no lie...there has to be 5,000 nits in her hair...I feel horrible for her...

The first live bug I took out of her hair...I thought she was going to puke. It was NOT pleasant.

We got SEVERAL out...we will see. I am going to check MY head next. God, am I glad that I shave the boys heads.

Hey Jen...good to see you. I am alright...libs tells more.

Love and appreciation to you ALL. I will try every method...including the kerosene if I have to. This is a nightmare.

Does anyones head itch now??

September 27, 2007
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YOU BET IT DOES, started about 1/3 way thru this thread.

September 27, 2007
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(((Mich and Daughter)))

That sounds so draining for both of you. The poor dear.

September 27, 2007
1:57 am
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Mich, believe it or not there is a great website called http://www.HeadLice.org and it even has 'fun' stuff for kids.

I discovered it when I was writing a paper on community health a couple of years ago. It has lots of good info, hope you will find it useful.

September 27, 2007
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OK, I have to paste this in just in case you miss it when you check out that website. The reference to NPA is National Pediculosis Association.

Send in the Comb (Set to the tune of "Send in the Clowns" by Stephen Sondheim)

Doesn't it itch?
I see a pair.
Me here at last having found
Lice in my hair -

Send in the comb.

This is so strange.
I don't approve.
Even when sitting quite still,
I feel something move.
I really need help.
Please send in the comb.

Just when I'd stopped
scratching my head,
Thinking that all of the vermin
around me were dead,
Sitting alone in my room, ran the comb through my hair;
Stopped in dismay...
Guess what was there?

Why do you scratch?
My fault I fear...
I think that you've got what I've got -
Sorry my dear.
I'll call NPA
Please call NPA

Their number's right here......

September 27, 2007
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Thank you so much again for all of your help...

My head itches too, any good guesses why that might be?? I have it too!! :o(

September 27, 2007
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okay...here i am .....i teach kids....

just because you got rid of it with your daughters hair can't stop there.

be vigilent at the school nurses office. make sure the kids are instructed about NOT sharing combs, brushes, hair bows, bands etc.

even little bff jill shouldn't french braid mary's hair during recess. little hands should stay to themselves at school. no hat switching....nothing. and a complete investigation should be done by the school nurse only in a private office where the children don't watch the official reporting. it is humiliating experience and the cleanest of kids get head lice.

ma cin....said it best for the in-home cleaning proceedures....don't take it lightly...those critters are relentless and live on through their eggs. yuck and good luck.

September 27, 2007
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(((SIMS))) I am so sorry to read here that this is happening to you all, I hope the solution that was offered to you, is working.

September 27, 2007
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Wow never heard of the mayo trick. If you can talk about these things you learn all kinds of stuff.

Jenni
I was just hysterical reading about your experiment! I love it! So kerosene causes a short nap!

Scared
Sorry to hear your daughter is older. It's harder on older kids I think. The real little ones aren't so embarassed and creeped out. Wasn't suggesting you take her to a salon, no, no, no. You'd have to do it yourself. But it sounds like she's a bit old to take to the idea of a Pat Benatar look.

So, so sorry you have it too. You'll need someone to help you comb the nits out. It's impossible to do it yourself. Any good girlfriends?

I hope it has helped you to see that so many other people have had this problem. Good luck.

September 27, 2007
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oh geez scared i missed the fact she was older. no wonder it is a tough one. always is. not matter what age...but the older kids feel ashamed and there isn't any shame to it...it just happens to the best of us.

be vigilant. my thoughts are with you and i hope this day finds things better.

i had heard of the mayo trick but i heard it is several applications because of the darn eggs. take good care and forgive me for not reading the one part about the age. take care.

September 27, 2007
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Thanks again to all of you...

Jen, I think that I am about to the attempt at kerosene. Good lord...no matter what I have done...(now, i have not tried the mayo YET) but I keep finding LIVE bugs. I am so going to throw up.

My daughter has cried and cried and cried. I feel so bad for her. I did explain to her that this doesn't mean anything about her. It did NOT originate in her head. She got it from somewhere. It doesn't mean that she is dirty or whatever. I just feel awful for her.

She just started middle school...and you know kids are mean.

Ok, just taking a small break from laundry...I am being WAY obsessive...but, this grosses me out...COMPLETELY.

Alright...will talk to you all later. Thanks for ALL of your help. This isn't a fun subject to even talk about...much less think about...but, I am glad that I have all of you to turn to and ask for advice.

Thanks....

September 27, 2007
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lala, we posted at the same time...

I do feel bad for her. ((((my sweet baby))))

We will get there...

September 27, 2007
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Oh girls....my four year old has it too...

ONLY...she thought it was cool when I took the first bug out of her hair....

She got all excited....it took all I had to not cry. It doesn't suprise me...since my girls share a king size waterbed...but, this could cause one to feel defeated in a hurry...

Oh well...

Keep me in your thoughts...as I am just delousing my family...

September 27, 2007
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((((mich)))) Big, big hugs for you, darling. I know what a nightmare this can be because (like most moms of girls) I've been right where you are. My daughter is almost 14, and she has had lice 3 times so far. I'm getting better at knowing how to get rid of it, and you've gotten some great advice here. Just be VERY, VERY thorough. Vaccuum, vaccuum and revaccuum everything you can think of that hair might come into contact with. Wash anything and everything in hot, hot water...they say 130 degrees or it won't kill them. If over the counter stuff doesn't work, call your doctor and ask for prescription strength. With my daughter, teaching her not to share clothes, pillows, brushes, etc. with her girlfriends was key. They are really into the sleepover thing...and I had to put an end to that unless she promised to use her own pillow, etc.

And, don't forget the car!!! Vac and spray it....

And, the vaccuum cleaner...they say that the eggs can hatch inside it and crawl back out, so make sure to change the bag and keep the vac outside in a garage or someplace away from the house.

Hope you have enough info....good luck, and bless you, my dear!!!

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