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December 3, 2001
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The friend I have been posting about is in therapy, but she's very reluctant to discuss her childhood. She says she had a great childhood, and she keeps skirting the real issues by blaming friends, work, etc., to avoid dealing with her difficulties in relationships with men. Her therapist has recommended EMDR therapy and intends to begin it this week. Has anybody had any experiences with it?

December 3, 2001
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I am most curious about this,yes I have heard of it, supposed to be great for PSTD, which we now realize is something from bad relationships, and child hood, not just gun like war.
Some how the blinking of the eye is involved. That is all I know of it. Unless I am totally confused and having a brain fart!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 3, 2001
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No, Molly, you're right about the process. It is supposed to stimulate both hemispheres of the brain in order to speed the rate of healing from traumatic incidents. My friend's therapist thinks that her bottom line problem is a lack of self esteem, and that it probably results from some incident in her past that she's blocking out. The therapy involves eye movement or tapping/clicking sounds on both the right and left sides to stimulate the brain. The old belief about self is expressed, then a new desired belief about self must be established. The new desired belief will hopefully replace the old by the time the therapy is complete. It can take several sessions or just one, and for some people it will not work. I just wanted to hear if someone had an experience with it to recount. It is very interesting to me.

December 3, 2001
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You know I have no ideal what EMDR stands for or PSTD. Yes blaming others is a big one for me also. I also have difficulties with men. Actually I really don't like them.

December 3, 2001
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EMDR is eye movement desensitization reprocessing. PTSD is post-traumatic stress disorder. Have you sought therapy for your issues with men, damaged? What is it you don't like about them? Because I don't really like most men I know either, other than my husband, brothers, and father. If I lost my husband today, I probably wouldn't have another man if his ass was dipped in gold.

December 3, 2001
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Ok damaged you busted my dyslexia moment, but you knew what a brain fart was didn't you????
I think I would have a man if his ass was dipped in gold as long as I could cash it in. But at this point, I think that is the only way.

December 3, 2001
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Of coures I know what a brain fart is, you were talking more on my level with those kind of words. Actually I did talk about not liking men today in counseling. Why do I hate men? I really didn't enjoy the act of rap by a man, I hate to be sexually harashed by them, I hate that most of them think they are superior over women, I hate that if a man has sex they are cool and studs and if a woman has sex they are big sluts. I hate that a man thinks he can slap his bitch around because he is the man. I hate men!!!

December 4, 2001
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the key thing to remember here is that they aren't all like that. Sure there are lots of big bad ugly ones out there, but I have heard rumors of some real knights in shinning armour. So, tell me, with this agenda, you have a son, are you going to re shape man kind with your own experiment? I am sorta kidding and don't want you to go off the deep end here, but it starts with just one. Most of my friends have son's even my sister has two of them, still doesn't understand them. I can tell you this much, never heard of one of their boys treating mom the way a daughter does. Got something going on there.

December 4, 2001
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I haven't had any personal experience with this, but have heard it does help alot of people.

http://www.psychotherapist.net.....-emdr.html

December 4, 2001
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My friend goes for her first session tomorrow, and I'll let you guys know what happens. It all sounds pretty fascinating.

December 4, 2001
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cool.
is ur friend getting treatment in california? from the doctor Carol Bouleware?
i'll come later to read your story.
i wish her good luck

December 6, 2001
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any update? miss T?

December 6, 2001
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Update: The therapy seems to have done some good, even in the first session. My friend reported that she was very relaxed, almost to the point of feeling hypnotized, but alert. The word she used was mesmerized. She said they started with a series of questions about an incident from her childhood that made her feel very insecure, and from there they progressed to the death of her sister when she was in her late teens. She came to realize that she has never really dealt with her sister's death, and that she has been feeling a lot of guilt related to her surviving and her sister's dying. She broke into sobs for the first time in a long time, and felt that she was able to confront some traumas that she has been reluctant to face. She has another session next week to work more on her sister's death. We'll see what happens!

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excellent... how much did they charge?
and hw ong did the session take ..?
didnt it take long to ask her questions, and did they know about her childhood before the session started? (had they asked her b4?)

and from where did she get it done? dr carol bouileware in california?

December 6, 2001
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Actually, we're in the great state of Georgia, in the mountains. I don't know how much the therapy costs, because our insurance only requires a copay per session of around 12.00. I've never heard her say how much a session is. They had talked about the childhood incident earlier; she has been seeing this therapist for traditional therapy for a couple of months. They only spend around an hour on one session, so if there isn't completion, she will have to have further sessions, but I have heard that if after eight or so sessions there is no improvement, this therapy should be discontinued. I read one man's account of having this therapy and developing a stutter and some physical ticks. That would be horrible! If you're interested, there are websites about the therapy that are very informative.

December 7, 2001
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interesting.. i wonder how it goes for ur friend in the future, wonder if any long term effects.
i'll definitely look into it
i did find some websites..
some say it works good, some say there is no basis for its work, and cant be supported scientifically.
evolving and mixed opinions

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