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Do you suppose that the problem & solution lies in recognizing the difference between feeling sorry for ourselves....and feeling sorry for ourselves?
October 30, 2006
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By this I mean that it is somewhat of a double-edged sword. Our "society" - (at least in the US) seems to have this great disdain for folks that just sit around, acting lazy and feeling sorry for ourselves....when in fact - the most progress I have EVER made - psychologically, is just to sit with my feelings - long enough - to feel - the - sorryness - of it all.

There is no doubt - to my mind - a difference between "cause" and "blame." But - even at the "Blame" conjuncture - it just seems that society does not like to tolerate - even an inkling of a "victim" status...even though it is fully substantiated!

GOD.....if only HALF of the attention were given to the VICTIMS of crime as is done to the bastards that perpetuate the crime...and THEIR rehabilitation......perhaps all of us would be able to FINALLY get on with our lives and not be "doubly" victimized/made to feel guilty by society's intolerance that there was even a victim to begin with!!!!!

Just had to blow off a little steam.

I am sick and tired about hearing about the rehab programs etc. allocated to the perp with no real support to the actual victim.

Seems to me - like the victim is just lost in the equasion at the expense of societies subliminal obsession with some sort of wacked-out pseudo-altruism!!!!

Just my thoughts.

October 30, 2006
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Just the other night, I had some time to sit on the couch and turn on the television. It was 10 PM, so I was hoping there would be something enlightening or funny on. But, after checking the three major channels, I got so turned off because all three channels were showing crime drama shows, and/or Prime Time with its focus on another murder. I was so turned off, I ended up listening to the 10 o'clock news. Of all the things in the world to be "entertained" by later at night, or any time...... murder?? I just don't get this preoccupation with this subject.

Maybe its because I know that there is no point it trying to figure out the motive of a sociopathic murderer. I think many of us here have had our own real-life dramas in the areas of personality disordered people, and don't need to watch more on TV. Wouldn't it be a great service if some of this murder show time was taken up with something uplifting and positive? Believe me, the TV shows we watch, the music we listen to, the words we speak all affect our energy levels and well being, and even the energy of our homes. It such a shame network TV spends all this time on this stuff, but the general public seems to lie it.

October 30, 2006
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Gracenotes,

Thanks for responding. I think that we ae talking apples and oranges here - but I do appreciate your input and am also disenchanted with the ploys of fear and shock which dominate our "news" coverage and am in complete agreement that our environment most assuredly has a direct impact on our energy levels.

Just today, I decided to put on one of the "music" channels offered by my local cable company throughout the day - (instead of the regular mind-numbing crap) and it definently made a difference in my mood!

Roll over Bethoven...tell Tchovosikvy the News!! (Excuse the goss mis-spelling!!!!)

October 30, 2006
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There is a difference between empowerment psychology and opo psychology. There is a difference between pop psychology amd Medicine.

"Victim" is NOT a four letter word.

My uncle started attending a PTSD support group for veterans.

The psychiatrist leading the group started with "If any of you are here hoping for a cure, I have to tell you: there isn't any. You will probably have this problem for the rest of your lives. All we can do is help you cope a little better with it."

October 30, 2006
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I suppose there is alos a difference betwewen pop psychology and opo psychology.

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October 31, 2006
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truthBtold,

Yes, yes, yes. Turning on a music channel is such a better way of having some entertainment during the day!!

Worried dad,

Too bad the psychiatrist had such a grim outcome for your uncle. I wonder if the doc is aware of some wonderful, effective, quick acting, and empirically proven treatments for PTSD such as EMDR for trauma. I have had such life-changing success with this treatment for the traumas in my life.

October 31, 2006
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Could not agree with you more truthbtold.
Billions of dollars a year spent on jails with cable television and air conditioning, so our (career) criminals are treated fairly. Millions and millions spent on rehabs, many of which are nothing more then revolving doors and a tempory place to stay before or after jail.
Victims? what victims, why would they need any treatment? That's our society at it's best!!

Atalose

~~Hope has a place, but not above reality~~

November 1, 2006
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Yeah....thanks all - - - I just really wanted to get a witness!!!

Thanks!

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