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Disturbing picture drawn by a 4 1/2 yr old
March 22, 2008
9:37 am
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Hello all,
just wanted some opinions on what you think of a picture that my little girls friend drew. My husband and I socialize w/ a good friend of mine from high school but we are very weary of her husband who she has tried to leave. He's verbally abusive and physically abusive as well. My husband has seen some disturbing events happen while he's there and we are beginning to worry of our daughters safety, but at the sametime I can't just drop the situation since it is a close friend of mine that I believe needs all the support she can get.
But it was about a month ago we were over and they're little 4 1/2 yr old son was running around w/ our daughter playing, she came into the kitchen later w/ no pants on so we put her pants back on and when my husband went to the bathroom he saw their son go back and rip her panties off once again. My husband was disturbed and said to my freinds' husband kind of in a jokingly way your son just ripped my daughters panties off. He instantly got defensive and said what are you trying to say my sons a rapist!!!?? Well, that threw up a red flag for my husband, he thought he should of addressed his son about the matter than get defensive. We brushed it off and didn't say anymore. But my husband went by last night to hang out for a bit and they had a drawing hanging on the fridge that their son drew. It was of my freind and her husband, their mouths were wide open and red! (my husband has a psychology degree and took alot of child psychology classes) so he believed this to be their son drawing the aggression between them, because it is constant yelling. But what bothered him the most was that he also drew his father have a huge erect penis in the color black. He also drew a penis at the top of the page w/ scribbles coming out of the tip, then he drew another huge penis on that back of the page. My husband thinks he's way too young to be drawing these things and that it was very disturbing. At first I thought my husband was overreacting and I said it could mean authority, he does rule the house and yells around all day and their son has to know what a penis is. But he claims that he's only 4 1/2 and that most kids his age don't draw those types of things. Most kids draw their whole family in a line smiling. So does anyone have any opinions???

March 22, 2008
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I think there are MANY red flags here, and you should be very concerned. I wouldn't allow your daughter to be in that home, especially without your supervision. I know you need to be there to support your friend, but that can be done in a one-on-one situation in your home and without her husband present.

The drawing he drew isn't normal at 4 1/2 or at ANY AGE...neither is the ripping off of your daughter's panties. You cannot allow that to happen to her again.

Please protect your family and support your friend the best you can from a safe distance.

March 22, 2008
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i wouldn't allow my daughter to play with him without immediate adult supervision. i would be very careful about exposing her to either adult.

i don't know that drawing a penis at that age is the alarming part. its the apparent aggression and the fact that the pic was on the fridge signalling the parents being oblivious.

March 22, 2008
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You can and should call child protective services now! It is anonamous this child needs to get out NOW and so does the MOM

March 22, 2008
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I believe that the picture that you saw is a HUGE red flag. Please call child protective services. PLEASE.

Protect this little child who can't protect themself. And by all means pretoect your own.

You can call anonymously. Even if your friend were to know it was you, if you save that little boy, that should be what it important really. A phone call to CPS is a request for investigation NOT an accusation.

March 22, 2008
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Can you get the picture? Like have hubby go hang for awhile and when nobody's looking get the picture? It's evidence that something is very wrong, and I'd be very careful with my daughter over there.

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March 22, 2008
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Whenever we run into situations such as this, it is our responibilities as adults to report this to Child Protective Services. You have many red flags and enough information to report this. It is not your responsibility to try to figure out what it all means. It is not your job to try to figure out whether there is rape or child abuse going on. That is the job of Child Protective Services. But as a counselor I would have to report this information to CPS and I urge you to do the same.

I suspect your friend is too afraid to turn her husband in. I have seen this situation many times. Please do her and her child a favor and report it. I am sure she will thank you later. She sounds like a very battered wife, paralyzed by fear.

You do not have to give your name when reporting. Just say you are a friend or neighbor or someone who cares.

March 22, 2008
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Question in all of this?? Why would you hang this on your regrigerator?? I just don't get that. It hasn't yet left my mind.

Call CPS and tell them that the picture is there. It is scary to me.

March 22, 2008
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Leave the picture. If you take it it will not be taken into evidence because of the chain of command being broken. Trust me if it's on the fridge now it will be there when CPS comes a-knocking on the door. CALL CPS NOW. DO IT NOW. Something is horriably wrong in that family for real. If you care you will not turn a blind eye and make the call. It's hard. I've had to deal with a situation where CPS was the only answer myself. I had to do something for the child that was defenseless. It was my duty as a human being, a woman, a mother myself. These people are screwed up. Don't ask your husband, don't tell anybody, just do it. You are capable of making this decision. Go for it! Be a hero today.

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March 22, 2008
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I have absolutely no advice at all but to say how brave of you to want to do something. I can only imagine how hard this is to see as children are so precious and you want nothing bad to happen to them. I hope this has a good outcome.

March 23, 2008
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this is really unhealthy, think of the child and get them help, NOW!!
disturbing things like this mean a lot more is going on behind the scenes when you aren't around, you really need to be a friend to your friend as if she won't get help about this, you can, especially for the child before the child is disturbed evven more, you don't have to tell your friend what you have done by getting the help, don't leave it another moment.

March 23, 2008
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Leave the picture because the chain of command will be broken? What planet did that come from? Taking the picture is not an illegal search and seizure if it's not done by law enforcement, if that's what this means.

Take the picture, report it, CPS asks the kid if he drew the picture (they will interview him), done with story.

But ya don't wanna lose it.

How ya holding up?

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March 23, 2008
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Can you take a picture of the picture using a cell phone or digital camera? I would do that, and immediately call CPS - and do NOT allow your child back over there.

Children express their "feelings" through their drawings. Now, it has been a LONG time since I graduated from school with my Psychology degree, and I will tell you flat out that I do NOT practice, I ended up being a "business person." But, I do agree with your husbands assessment of the red mouths, expressing constant anger. That added to the penis drawings, especially the fact that he colors the penis black is indictative of there being sexual abuse against this child.

Please get a photo of the picture if you can, but, at all costs - for the sake of your friend and her child, call CPS and the police.

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March 23, 2008
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Ripping the panties off is giving your daughter a distorted idea of what play is. Its bullying at the very least.
It is probably a bit traumatizing for her, or at the very least, confusing.

However, from your post, the first impression I got is that the boy is being exposed to something. Pornography, perhaps?

Does he try to take clothes off of male children?

March 23, 2008
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"But what bothered him the most was that he also drew his father have a huge erect penis in the color black. He also drew a penis at the top of the page w/ scribbles coming out of the tip, then he drew another huge penis on that back of the page."

He is way to young to be even aware of what the pictures depict. He would have had to have been exposed to the images.

March 24, 2008
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wondering how you got on with your situation? I hope those kids are all safe!

March 24, 2008
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to even have a picture like this hanging off the refridgerator, wow, that is sick. I agree with all posts above and don't let your daughter over there!!

March 24, 2008
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I'm going to say at the very least your daughter should never go over there again. Who puts a picture like that on the fridge? Sick. Your husband already knows, follow your instinct, and contact the authorities.

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