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Deep Thoughts
February 1, 2004
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"It is sometimes hard to hear God's voice in the clamor of the crowd."

-unknown

February 1, 2004
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Yes, the small, still voice and I never know who I'm hearing from and have passed up opportunities when I should have been paying attention.

February 6, 2004
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"You teach people how to treat you." Dr. Phil McGraw

"If you want a friend, be a friend." ?

I can honestly say I've tried and it hasn't worked for me. I don't believe it always works since it also depends on the other person.

February 6, 2004
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I'm exhausted, so about the only deep thought I have right now is - love your dog... he loves you anyway.

February 6, 2004
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I feel almost the say as Zinnie, very down and very tired ... my deep thought is: "Take it one day at a time."

February 7, 2004
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred...let me sow love.
Where there is injury...pardon.
Where there is doubt...faith.
Where there is despair...hope.
Where there is darkness...light
Where there is sadness...joy.
Oh Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled...as to console.
To be understood...as to understand.
To be loved...as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive.
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned.
It is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

(by St. Francis of Assissi)

February 7, 2004
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If a child lives with criticism, he learns to condemn.
If a child lives with hostility, she learns to fight.
If a child lives with ridicule, he learns to be shy.
If a child lives with shame, she learns to feel guilty.
If a child lives with tolerance, he learns to be patient.
If a child lives with encouragement, she learns confidence.
If a child lives with praise, he learns to appreciate.
If a child lives with fairness, she learns justice.
If a child lives with security, he learns to have faith.
If a child lives with approval, she learns to like herself.
If a child lives with acceptance and friendship, he learns to find love in the world.
(Dorothy Law Nolte)

February 7, 2004
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After awhile you learn the subtle difference
Between holding a hand and chaining a soul.
And you learn that love doesn't mean leaning
And company doesn't mean security.
And you begin to understand that kisses aren't contracts
And presents aren't promises,
And you begin to accept your defeats
With your head held high and your eyes wide open.
With the grace of a woman, not the grief of a child.
You learn to build your roads
On today because tomorrow's ground
Is too uncertain for plans, and futures have
A way of falling down in midflight.
After awhile you learn that even sunshine
Burns if you get too much.
So you plant your own garden and decorate
Your own soul, instead of waiting
For someone to bring you flowers.
And you learn that you really can endure,
That you really are strong.
And you really do have worth.
And you learn and learn...and you learn
With every goodbye you learn.

Veronica A. Shoffstall

February 7, 2004
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Just wanted to mention that I was just reading the prayer of St. Francis of Assissi the other day in going through my notes and this I had noted from Dr. Wayne Dyer when he was on TV. On your thread you mentioned John Bradshaw who I also read and have notes on. I have a big box of notebooks from studying different self help type things and most I feel I have to keep as going back to them can be very helpful. I may have read the next one by Nolte, I'm not sure, but I can certainly relate. Somewhere I heard once "Let books be your friends." This is what I try to do though it would be nice to occasionally have a friend to go to lunch with as I've been able to do a few times here, but they are casual friends.

February 7, 2004
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I love Wayne Dyer! I heard he has new tapes out.

February 7, 2004
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Thankyou for letting me know he has new tapes out as I will check into it with the library. I have so many books and things to check into there, but haven't been staying there to do so, just dropped off books from the bus and came right home as the weather was bad. So many on here have posted good references to check out and I've noted them all down and have probably missed some as I just pop in and out of here now.

February 7, 2004
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You can be a victim only once after
taht you are a volunteer.
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February 7, 2004
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Looks like the universe is trying to tell me something, Harryo. What you quoted is interesting because my daily meditations book had the book marker on the one for Jan. 19th about owning our power and not being victims. It talked about how we can victimize ourselves which is perhaps what I do sometimes when I think others could be a little more considerate. I do know they have their own lives to lead and don't expect them to drop everything to offer me their help, but it still doesn't feel good when my car is down that they avoid me and don't want to look at me when I step off the bus. I guess its best not to expect anything and then you won't feel disappointed.

February 7, 2004
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Hi guys. I'm really having a rough time. I have contributed to the site over the last week. The threads just seems to disappear. I'm feeling unheard.
I don't want to bore anyone with the same old, same old.......the history is scattered amongst the threads.....suffice to say.......Love gone wrong. And where does that leave me? I'm shaking. My mind is playing games with me. I broke down and phoned him last night. Needless to say the relief was only momentary. I found myself offering sex when in fact its love I want and the truth be known.......long term, it probably can't be with him. Why then does that not matter? I don't see a future and yet I'm unable to move on. I don't want to go out and meet anyone else. And I don't want to spend the rest of my life with him but he is a very decent, loving man and I just want to feel safe a little longer.
Lost in Pergatory

February 7, 2004
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oooops Purgatory

February 8, 2004
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sorry themis, I dont have words of advice but I just wanted to let you know that I have felt the same fear about being alone. Its tough and its very courageous of you to want something better for your life even if it means being alone for a while. So cheers to you themis, hang in there.

February 8, 2004
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Thanks Wemi.......I'm having such a hard time accepting myself for being here. I'm really not liking me right now. I feel like some stupid school girl instead of a 46 year old woman. I wish I could just rip this waying of being out from the root!

February 8, 2004
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sorry that should read.......way of being

February 11, 2004
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What I am thinking about is that maybe we need to start reading some books on self esteem or listening to some tapes. I usually check things like this out at the library or call and ask them about something that would be helpful. There is probably a lot of info right on here, too. I have checked some of the sites which people here have suggested.

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