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January 25, 2004
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"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it."

RUBA'IYA'T of OMAR KHAYYA'M

January 25, 2004
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Hi Tumble,,,loved your deep thought, though I had to read it a second time later (I read it earlier in the day, but "did not compute").

Forgive my never-ending ignorance, but is this out of a book? Is Omar Kyaya'M the author?

Snowing here in North Carolina, and kitties are going out of their minds,,Boomer goes from the back door to the front door thinking the weather may be different if he changes doors,,,gotta love em!!
Hope you're doing well.
W.

January 25, 2004
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Hi W,
This quatrain I posted is from the book Rubaiyat and it is by Omar Khayyam. My favorite uncle quoted this to me nearly everyday from when I was very young, at least when he was around as he worked on the great lakes and lived with us when he wasn't working. Now, I am amazed at all the wisdom he had which he always tried to share with me, but I was too young to get it. It has taken me years to really understand this quatrain even though I've lived it and life has been going on and keeps moving on and I can't change a thing no matter if I use wit or I cry. Now, thats how I understand it. However, there is a book I've wanted to get which interprets all these quatrains from the Rubaiyyat. Believe me, I feel I'll need it. When my uncle was killed in an auto accident and I was asked what I wanted of his things, I chose to have this book. He had also given me one of my own which like everything else, I've lost, but this book and being his is always a great comfort for me to have. This was translated into English verse by Edward Fitzgerald. Good to hear from you again.

January 25, 2004
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Oh Tumbleweed,,,what an interesting life your uncle must have had. I've always been fascinated by the Great Lakes but have never been north of the Mason-Dixon line to see them. I believe you made a good choice in what you wanted from your uncle.

I feel the same way about not being able to change things either by wit or cry.

Tumble,,,you may have lost material things but I think you've not lost what matters most, you're inner self,,your intelligence, your kindness, and you're wanting to learn and know. The material things, which we all love, (me too :},,) can all be lost with just a fierce storm. What cannot be lost, if we don't allow it, is what is inside of us (well, at least it's inside of us that care enough to come here).

I have supposed friends who would never dream of letting a dog or cat or anything other than a totally sterile being allowed inside their grand houses. How do I feel about them? Well,,I feel sorry. Not pity per se, but I just feel that they miss so much by being so concerned about their material belongings. These THINGS are quite a burden.

I've often day-dreamed of finding a huge sum of cash somehow. What exactly would I do with it? Where could I hide it? Well, I would fret about it, deposit it little by little in a bank somewhere...BUT,,,I believe it would be a burden more than a blessing (ill-gotten gains and all that you know)....

I've told you before,,I can easily imagine myself in the exact situation that you are in. But I'm beginning to believe that in the end, it will be what is in my heart that is important. Those that have taken from us without thought will not have us around forever to take from. Then they will have to survive or not.

I know I'm rambling here. But tell me,,, when you give materialistically until you have nothing more to give,,,who is really at fault?

What you have from your uncle certainly isn't valuable money-wise,, (IS IT ;},,,,)? but it surely is important to YOU!!!!

Love talking to you,,,W.

January 25, 2004
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Thanks again, W. I can share with you that my uncle was like my saviour when I was growing up or maybe my hero, I don't know, but he taught me anything cultural I know and some of his good advice I didn't follow, of course, being young. He traveled all over the world so he was an interesting companion who also took me on short day trips to places of interest and nice restaurants, things which I wouldn't have had an opportunity to do. Now, I live across from Lake Erie and always think about him when I walk the trail over there because the lakes were his home part of the year. He had been a marine, in 2 major wars and then worked on the ore boats on the lakes so that was how much of his life went. He still loved to travel when he retired until he was killed in his auto on his way back from New Mexico to Tombstone, Az. where he was living at the time. And what interesting letters he used to write to me as he always kept in touch so you're right he was an interesting person. I have not stayed in the south so just the opposite in my case. I've driven through parts of Texas, Oklahoma on my way to friends in Tucson, Az. and New Mexico, but just passing through.

January 26, 2004
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My deepest thought for today is simply being grateful for what I do have and realizing that it could be worse. I guess I take it for granted that so far I'm on little medication until I hear from friends who have it much worse. Today, again I received a letter from one of those friends as I did last week and the previous week from another friend all struggling with medications. I just had to ask myself "What would I do if I had that problem?" It made me realize things could be much worse and that I have been blessed whether or not I've realized it.

January 26, 2004
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Hey Tumbleweed:

Here's one that I like to keep in my mind when I think things are going bad...
"Don't think of the things you don't have that you want. Think of the things you don't have that you don't want..."

Get it??
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January 26, 2004
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Thankyou, acj. Yes, I get it exactly and you're right there.

January 27, 2004
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Hi Tumbles and all...

Your Uncle sounds like an interesting person to say the least.

I did not have grandparents - my Mom's parents died when I was still a toddler. My Dad's parents - were not worth knowing. My Dad's Grandmother - who was his hero died when I was a toddler as well. My husband's Grandmother became a Grandmother to me, and from what you wrote of your Uncle he sounds like her.

When she really got up in years, we finally had to put her in a nursing home as she had cracked her tail bone and needed 24/7 care, which we just could not provide for her. Her grandchildren complained about having to go see her. Carried it out like it was such a burden. I LOVED going to see her. She had such wonderful stories to tell. She was knowledgable about lots of different things, and had seen so many changes in her life.

Want - something she said to me, which I thought of when you talked of your friends and their grand homes...

"Never trust a person who does not like animals."

People remark all the time to me "as clean as you are, you allow those dogs all over the furniture?" Well, yes, I do! I can vacuum a couch or a chair, but I would sure miss those loving kisses, warm paws and unconditional love that they give.

Z.

January 27, 2004
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I agree, Zinnie, as I miss my pekingnese so much. Everyday, I think of her. She was my husband's dog and I took her after he passed away. I had her for 5 years and she traveled with me across country and up to Canada, but sadly she was already older and had to leave. It is hard when you have always had pets, but it is difficult here in the apartments and several others have dogs here so not easy sometimes getting them out having to take elevators and all.

January 27, 2004
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Hi Tumbles,

My dog that I got right after I moved here (TX) was my buddy! Oh, the times we had. She drove just about every where with me AND she learned to honk the horn if she felt I was taking too long some place. At first I thought, she did it accidently. Nope, she would lean on the steering wheel.

Needless to say, she was not very pleased when I re-married. She was kind of like "you know this guy was O.K. when he went home after the 10:00 news, but I'm not sure now that he never leaves!" Fortunately, dog and husband came to a meeting of the minds.

Seems we always have a "special pet" we hold near and dear doesn't it?

Love,

Z.

January 27, 2004
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That is so cute, learned to honk the horn without any training. Wow! I thought it was some good ones my dog pulled, but that tops it all. When we traveled, she would start barking as it was getting dark because she wanted to be in the motel room by then. Of course, I complied with her wishes and she knew when I would tell her okay I'm going to look for a bed now and go night night. Then she was happy and probably a good thing for both of us.

January 27, 2004
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Oh, they learn lots don't they? Of course every dog I have ever had knows what the oven timer is, the can opener, the microwave ding, and the ice cream scooper being pulled out of a drawer.

That is cute - she knew when it was time to call it a day. Sometimes, they really are smarter than we are. By "telling" you she was ready for bed, she was forcing you to get properly rested and safely tucked away; where as if left up to us humans you would have kept pushing.

She was really smart. When she was about four or so, I found another dog and took him in. There were never two more famous friends than those two. Now, this little character was gorgeous, simply a beautiful dog... but not the sharpest knife in the drawer - but I still loved him.

Now I have Miss Pee Wee who is just a sweetie pie, and of course the little red LOUD dog who is a live wire. Which by the way is the reason I'm still up. We got hit with a cold snap and it has him wired for sound. I have treatment and a Dr. appt. today at 9:45, then the rest of the day off... so hopefully I can rest.

Z.

January 27, 2004
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Take care, Zinnie, and I hope it goes well for you today. Catch ya later.

January 27, 2004
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Hi all,,,,

I agree completely. Do not trust people who don't like animals!! Unless they were attacked by an animal or scared witless as a small child by one,,,guess we could look over that one.

My thought for the day,,(it isn't very deep but a thought all the same) is be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

I hope I wasn't intruding but I read the thread about the round pizza in a square box, etc. Loved 'em all!!! W. :}

January 27, 2004
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That is a good thought to remember in my opinion and so true.

January 28, 2004
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"Become the very expression of the love that you seek outside yourselves.
For in that act, you shall draw to you the likeness of yourself. In the moment you become love, love shall be reflected in all you experience." Taken from "Last Cry" by Robert Ghost Wolf

January 28, 2004
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Work as hard at being happy as we work at keeping others happy.

January 28, 2004
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Hey, Zinnie, hope you're feeling better by now. Good to see you!

January 29, 2004
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I believe-that we don't have to change friends if we understand that friends change.

I believe-that no matter how good a friend is, they're going to hurt you every once in a while and you must forgive them for that.

I believe-that true friendship continues to grow, even over the longest distance. Same goes for true love.

I believe-that you can do something in an instant that will give you heartache for life.

I believe-that it's taking me a long time to become the person I want to be.

I believe-that you should always leave loved ones with loving words. It may be the last time you see them.

I believe-that you can keep going
long after you can't.

I believe-that we are responsible for what we do, no matter how we feel.

I believe-that either you control your attitude or it controls you.

I believe-that regardless of how hot and steamy a relationship is at first, the passion fades and there had better be something else to take its place.

I believe-that heroes are the people
who do what has to be done when it needs to be done, regardless of the consequences.

I believe-that money is a lousy way of keeping score.

I believe-that my best friend and I can do anything or nothing and have the best time.

I believe-that sometimes the people you expect to kick you when you're down, will be the ones to help you get back up.

I believe-that sometimes when I'm angry I have the right to be angry,
but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.

I believe-that just because someone doesn't love you the way you want them to doesn't mean they don't love you with all they have.

I believe-that maturity has more to do with what types of experiences you've had and what you've learned from them and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated.

I believe-that it isn't always enough to be forgiven by others. Sometimes you have to learn to forgive yourself.

I believe-that no matter how bad your
heart is broken the world doesn't stop for your grief.

I believe-that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become.

I believe-that just because two people argue, it doesn't mean they don't love each other. And just because they don't argue, it doesn't mean they do.

I believe-that you shouldn't be so eager to find out a secret. It could change your life forever.

I believe-that two people can look at the exact same thing and see something totally different.

I believe-that your life can be changed in a matter of hours by people who don't even know you.

I believe-that even when you think you have no more to give, when a friend cries out to you you will find the strength to help.

I believe-that credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being.

I believe-that the people you care about most in life are taken from you too soon.

I believe-That you should send this to all of the people that you believe in.

I just did.

Z.
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January 29, 2004
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Thankyou so much, Z. This is absolutely beautiful!

February 1, 2004
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Ask: "Am I happy in what I'm doing?"
"Is what I'm doing going to add
to the confusion in the world?"
"What am I doing to bring about
peace and contentment?"
"How will I be remembered when
I'm gone?"
"We learn from "I am" to become "we are."
By "She Whose Voice Rides On The Wind"

February 1, 2004
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Tumbleweed --- awesome!!!!!!!! Loved that!

Sort of the deep thoughts I was struggling with last week, how to make a helpful change, what to leave behind that will make a difference.

The source of that quote -- is that a book?

February 1, 2004
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"Legend of the Rainbow Warriors" by Steven McFadden is the book this was in, I believe if I remember right. He has a web site and has other books so if I find I'm wrong, I'll post it. "She Whose Voice Rides On The Wind" is the name of the lady who quoted this. She is Seneca-Oneida-Scotch background. Several different wise people wrote their chapters in the book with their views. This lady studies rocks, if I remember correctly. I had made notes here from the book which I found going through all my paperwork the last couple days so glad you liked it.

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Some days are just good - because we have allowed them to be.

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