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June 28, 2007
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yes i like meatloaf - but heres the problem - no matter what is suggested - i fear i will binge on it. i wont have a piece, i'll have 2...then 3. then later, just 1 more - ok 2 and i will have eaten half the loaf in a matter of hours.

June 28, 2007
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what is wrong with me? my mother says its just a matter of self-discipline. it doesnt seem that easy to me.

June 28, 2007
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robbie, first of all, you said "went downstairs and did the dishes (wont say how long theyve been sitting there). but i got them done and cleaned the kitchen and was quite pleased with myself".

I think we are more alike than I realized....my sink is ALWAYS full of dishes...it's my LEAST favorite chore and I frequently resist doing it...but when I do, I feel some sense of accomplishment.

As for bingeing...I don't think you binged last night.

I think you ate out of boredom or maybe out of loneliness.

Binging would have been skipping the turkey sandwich and just eating the box of popscicles.

My mom has severe fibro...she also binges on FOOD...not sweets, like me, but FOOD...one plate is never enough...and mac n cheese is her favorite too...among others.

You sound like me in the morning...constantly snacking.

as bevdee said, perhaps the carbs in the mac n cheese triggered you...or something in the bread...I can't eat much bread at all, even whole grain stuff triggers me. Perhaps the sugar in the popsicle did it.

perhaps being hungry after eating not much all day did it.

How about packing more food for lunch....pack the turkey sandwiches, the tuna, etc...try to eat more during the day and see if it helps curb your appetite at night.

If that doesn't help, then you may need to keep a log of what you are eating - see if something is a trigger that leads to eating more.

sometimes there may not be a trigger, like you said...you just want to eat.

then it's time to look at your emotions and state of mind.

maybe instead of lounging around, could you find things to do? energy is required and if you aren't eating well, you won't have it...so try to eat better, and see if your energy goes up...plus, the more you move, the more energy you end up creating.

In the end, I found the answer to my binges was in the atkins plan. it controlled my need for food.

also, I hear alot of people have success with overeater's anonymous meetings...where you deal with the emotions that cause you to eat.

for me, it isn't the emotions that cause me to eat, it's the physical cravings caused by eating the wrong foods, then it making me crave more and more.

June 28, 2007
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Well, eat your vegetables first, always. I hate vegetable, so my mother made me eat them first, and I stick to that. Veggies, meat, filler (taters, rice, pasta, whatever) bread.I still do this, otherwise I won't eat them.

It's hard to stick to a diet. Period. You are alone, so there is no external control - sort of.

I had to stick to Atkins - without the fruit- when they first caught my diabetes, in an effort to bring my sugar down fast. The induction part of that diet like to killed me, but it was a good education because I had to learn to read labels, figure out hidden carbs. A good education.

I can't stick to that diet! I don't think anyone really can, without going wall-eyed screaming off of it at one time or another. I just try to use what I learned while I stuck to that diet.

If you binge, forgive yourself in the morning. Get plenty of protein. Eventually you will get used to the protein satisfying you, but it doesn't happen overnight. I take cheddar cheese, mozarella and muenster cheeses to work. I slice pieces off the block, throw them in a baggie, and I have just cheese for a snack.

I rarely eat margarine. Real butter is better, but I will tell you about that some other time. When I eat margarine, I feel greasy and icky the next day. Butter is more natural.

Chicken salad? Ham salad? With onions and boiled eggs and celery and pecans- if you like them? If you make it stout enough, you won't need the crackers, you can eat like a salad, and not a spread.

June 28, 2007
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or pile it on romaine lettuce.

if you can eat wheat products, a low carb wrap with lots of lettuce and tuna or chicken or hame...or egg salad...load it up.

bacon...OMG, my favorite part of atkins.

bev, I am like you, I didn't follow atkins as written....but I used the principles...and the food choices.

I got so I knew how much of what I could eat and what was a total no-no.

like any addict, one bite is a kiss of death...leads me to a binge.

quiche was another favorite of mine and the ONLy way I can get spinach in my stomach...I could eat it morning noon and night.

and then there is my homemade cheesecake...OMG...heaven and legal.

Robbie - disclaimer here.

all of these things we talk about are geared towards a low carb protein rich eating plan...if you were following a low fat plan...these things would NOT be legal.

June 28, 2007
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all in all, if you break it down

i had

6 slices of bread

2 eggs

4 slices of turkey

3 popscicles

1 pack of tuna

1 single serve mac & cheese

a bit of butter

mustard

a glass of gatorade

i'm pretty sure im an emotional eater becuz i eat even when im full. as far as finding something else to do - i have tried - but the thoughts of food wont get out of my head until i finally go eat.

i do think have more throughout the day might help tho - i will try it tomorrow since i have my "typical" lunch today.

June 28, 2007
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Robbie

Any time I have changed my eating patterns, I get emotional! It's adjustment, both physical and mental.

Just eating less is going to make you emotional. I cry sometimes when I get real hungry, because my sugar goes so low. Physical and emotional work together.

I eat a great big breakfast, because I have fasted for so long. I eat a medium lunch- a sandwich or something light. I eat snacks in between meals, like the cheese slices. If I skip or miss a meal, like at work, I will eat as soon as possible, but my body never lets me forget that skipped meal.

For instance, say I am just too busy at work to eat anything for lunch. I get home at 4 or so and I make a sandwich. It brings my sugar up enough that I don't feel faint or weepy any more, and I am ok. For a while. I have made the mistake of thinking that would be enough for the night, but it usually isn't, and I have tried to ignore the hungry feeling until I end up driving to the gas station to get doritos or something.

I'm not saying you are diabetic or anything, but stress can contribute to glucose levels vascillating. You've been going through some stuff here lately. (((Robbie)))

The reason you can have more fat with Atkins or high protein diets is because the body is not busy digesting the carbs and can metabolise the fat - that fat that we don't work off!! (I'm talking about me!) I've tried low-fat plans and just felt hungry all the time. They don't work for me.

You sure have alot of info to take in. Be kind to yourself and remember if you "fall", just pick yourself up and start again the next day. It'll be ok.

June 28, 2007
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yes - i DO have a lot to take in...maybe i can binge on advice? lol

i thank you both. i think it might help if i eat smaller meals, more often, with more protein.

i dont really know how to cook. can you or someone give me an easy, healthy recipe for chicken? or turkey - i like turkey better.

June 28, 2007
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Robbie

I have some recipes that I will get out here in the next couple of days. Because-- I need to start cooking more often for myself, so this thread has motivated me!

Cooking is easy. I like a crock pot! I'll get back to you on this in a few. Now here is the name of a site I found a while back. I looked at a few of the recipes.

http://www.lowcarbcafe.com/

June 29, 2007
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do you have a grill?

the EASIEST thing I do with chicken -

take boneless chicken breast - soak it in Newman's Own family recipe Italian dressing (chock full of good spices, all natural).

soak for hours or overnight (in fridge).

turn grill on, let it heat up...medium heat...grill until chicken is no longer pink in the middle.

you can take it out of the dressing, put it in a baking pan and bake it too, 350 degrees for 30-45 minutes, depending on how "cooked" you like your chicken.

Chicken legs - put them in a baking pan, spray them with pam cooking spray, sprinkle BAM! for chicken or paul perdohmes chicken seasoning on it...back on 350....some people cook for 30-45 minutes...I do for longer because I don't like greasy/slimy chicken...and like it on the dry/crisp side.

You can cook turkey the same way.

I don't think you really at that much the other night...the bread may have been a bit much, overall...but then again, that's coming from someone who can't tolerate wheat/bread products.

Try eating more during the day and see how that works for you.

Also - willpower and self control - it all goes out the window for me...if someone isn't "addicted" they can't understand...or if they have a healthy metabolism, blood sugar, they can't undrstand....so don't worry about what other people say.

June 29, 2007
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Robbie

First of all, I have to tell you that I feel like a great big hypocrite after all my advice-giving yesterday- last night I went to Popeye's and ate crawfish. You know, deep-fried. Still not so bad, but I had the rice and a biscuit. But when I got hungry later, I just had some peanut butter. Robbie I found a bunch of recipes that a friend of mine gave me. She is hypoglycemic, and told me that she feels better when she sticks to low-carb, because she doesn't have the wild swings in glucose levels.

I'll post a couple.

June 29, 2007
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"Broccoli Cheese Soup Carb Count 27g

1 can chicken broth
1/2 pound Velveeta cheese, cut in small chunks
1/3 cup heavy whipping cream

1 1/4 teaspoon onion powder

1/8 teaspoon black pepper

1/2 cup broccoli, cooked and chopped

ham chunks (optional, try it sometime though)

Put the chicken broth and seasonings in a pan to heat on
medium. Add the cheese. Stir until melted. Add cream and
stir, then add the broccoli and simmer for around five
minutes. Serve and eat up!

Bacon Cheese Soup Carb Count 24g

1 can chicken broth

1/2 pound Velveeta cheese, chopped up in little chunks

1/3 cup heavy whipping cream

1/4 teaspoon onion powder

1/8 teaspoon black pepper

10 pieces bacon, crisply cooked and crumbled

Put the chicken broth in a pan and add the seasonings. Heat on medium and when warm, put the cheese. When the cheese is melted, add the whipping cream and the crumbled bacon.

Hint: I microwave the bacon on a plate with a couple of pieces of paper towels. I put the bacon between the towels. This doesn't absorb too much of the grease to make it dry and unflavorful."

These are fast recipes. The carb content is for the entire batch of soup. Sorry it doesn't break it down into serings. I guess if you eat half of it- you'll get half the carbs.

June 29, 2007
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Hi Ladies,

very busy with work right now. will try to pop back on this afternoon. unfortunately, im not doing the type of work where i can go back and forth today. i hope i can catch up with you later.

love, robbie

June 29, 2007
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bev - the brocolli cheese soup sounds good.

I wonder tho - what could you substitute for velveeta? I know it has high sugar content and isn't really "cheese"...but for quick soup, sounds good.

I bet it would be good if you put cooked chicken chunks in it, as I LOVE brocolli and chicken and cheese.

I bet you could spoon this over a baked potato (if you tolerate potato) for a great topping.

see you soon Robbie.

June 29, 2007
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You could just put in the same amount of sliced American.

And you can also make up any recipes you want. That's how new ones are born!

June 29, 2007
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Or you could put in half mozarella- half american. Go nuts with it.

June 29, 2007
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I can't "guess" what would taste good together...and hate trying something and hating it, then wasting it.

Like quiche...I have ONE recipe I stick to...I like it, it works. There are MANY variations for quiche...but I have to stick to mine cuz I worry I won't like others.

it's BAD...I'm kind of obsessive like that.

but make something, put it in front of me and don't tell me what's in it, and I'm more open to try it.

I just don't like wasting my time and money to make something yucky!

June 29, 2007
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I went to that website, the lowcarbcafe and have been searching on and off for something new to try this weekend. I think I have decided on the Fajita chicken. (still thinking about the Roll your eyes chicken francese) It depends who is going to be here to eat, yes, I am being codependent. I know my kids would like the Fajita Chicken, just never know if they are going to be around.

June 29, 2007
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will you guys STOP talking about all this super yummy food? I am HUNGRY and drooling over these posts....LOL.

just kidding.

I seriously love low carb cafe.

can't wait for this move to be done and settled in to new house...so I can stop eating take out and eat REAL food.

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