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deciphering Nutrition Facts
June 26, 2007
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here are the facts off the cover of what i had for lunch. without saying what it is...i would like opinions on if this is healthy or not...

serving size: 1 1/4 cup - about 2.5 servings per container. i ate it all.

calories = 90 calories from fat = 50

total fat = 6g

sat.fat = 3.5g

trans fat = 0

cholesteral = 15mg

sodium = 150mg

carbs = 6g

fiber = 2g

sugar = 3g

protein = 2g

June 26, 2007
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seems a little high in fat...more than half of the calories came from fat.

may I ask what it was?

For me, on the atkins plan, this wouldn't be so bad, as it's low on carbs...has some fiber...and some protein. but even that goes out the window if I ate all of it, not just one portion.

BUT

if you ate only one portion, that's not enough calories for a meal...so I would have had to add something healthy to go with it.

June 26, 2007
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Robbie

I admire your honesty!

"about 2.5 servings per container. i ate it all." This cracked me up, sweetie. I eat it all, too.

June 26, 2007
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thanks bevdee. you put a smile on my face too.

these facts came off a container of birdseye vegetables. cauliflower, broccoli, peppers with some kind of seasoning. just steam for 4 minutes in the microwave. i thought i chose something healthy.
maybe not?

June 26, 2007
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eat it all up!!! i think as long as you don't eat more calories than you can burn, you should be all set.

The sugars are low and you have the protien and fiber, so that is good.

The calories do seem a lil' high though, but eating this every so often shouldn't hurt.

Eating less & excersing more is always the key.

Now tell us what you ate!!!

June 26, 2007
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wow...what kind of sauce was it?

yeah, I would think veggies are good for you.

was it a cheese sauce or alfredo type sauce?

don't worry, I would have eaten the whole thing too!!!

Here's the thing...most prepackaged foods are loaded with garbage...mostly to make them taste good.

Now, if it was cheese sauce...cheese IS fattening...BUT, it's healthy.

Nutrition labels are so hard to decipher, which is why I think you asked just such a question.

It was great you eat your veggies...you got 2.5 of your recommended 5 servings a day in...so awesome!!!!!!

I wouldn't worry about the fat - just be careful with your total daily intake. Usually, with nutrition, it's the bigger picture that matters...meaning if you go high fat on one meal, scale back on another.

Look at the total day, not just one serving.

we all love yummy high fat foods...if we eat in moderation and mix it up with healthy stuff, we have a balance that is ideal.

June 26, 2007
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it was an herb butter sauce.

....with roasted garlic, sundried tomatoes & herbed butter.

June 26, 2007
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Robbie, what did you eat it with?
The only package things I need are: Ramen noodles, canned beans, tomatoes, olives and kimchi. Everything else I cook.... I rarely count calories but I stop when I feel full.

June 26, 2007
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I meant, the only packaged things I eat not need...

June 26, 2007
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i didnt eat anything with it.

June 26, 2007
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robbie - in general, those butter sauces are killer and that's where most of the fat came from.

now, often, alot of that butter gets left in the bottom of the dish...unless you are like me and lick the platter clean! finger lickin good, kind of stuff.

anyway...food manufacturers don't want you to know it's not good for you...they try making veggies more tasty, so more people will eat them.

a helpful hint...next time, get plain veggies - cook them up in the micro, and add some butter flavoring - like butter buds or I can't believe it's not butter....and some of your own seasonings. That way, you control the amount of fat.

eating at work is hard...I'm not disciplined enough to make my meals ahead of time...often not knowing what I want that early in the day or night before...so I just throw a bunch of stuff in a cooler and decide at lunch time...I often have enough foods to feed three people...I either take home leftovers, or leave it in work fridge.

June 26, 2007
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can i freeze what i make like the stores do? or do they put stuff in it so it will stay good? like if i made it on the weekend and then froze it for the week. will it even have the same freshness?

June 26, 2007
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i better get back to work....i wasnt going to keep posting today ...sorry. but thanks for the help.

June 26, 2007
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some good quality freezer containers would be fine and yes, they should keep. Make sure everything is cool before putting the lid on and putting it in the freezer (so it doesn't get condensation which causes ice crystals and freezer burn).

tupperware has containers meant for freezer to microwave that are good...rock n serve....other companies have good ones too.

yes, you can cook ahead of time.

also, if you like "gadgets", walmart sells a seal a meal thing you keep on your counter...and it is a packaging system that sucks the air out and vaccum seals your meals. they have special containers to use too. These are GREAT...and the bags ARE reuseable if you wash them out and dry them well.

so yeah, you can do that.

I had a busy morning, but my afternoon slowed down.

talk to you later or tomorrow.

oh, one more thing...YES the food companies put lOTS of preservatives to keep things fresh.

June 26, 2007
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ok well, i have another question for you...

what is your take on lunch meats?

June 26, 2007
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hmmmm....that's a tough one...they are better than other choices (like mcdonalds), but some brands are full of junk.

Okay - if it were me...I spend the extra money and get boars head brand, as it seems to have the least amount of garbage in it. Their roast beef is extra lean and usually pretty well done, not rare and bleeding. Their oven roasted turkey or chicken is pretty good bets...no sugars and not a ton of preservatives.

Store made is another pretty good bet - as they may put extra flavoring in it (salt and sugar), they have the least amount of preservatives.

The worst is like bologna and the other prepackaged stuff...many have tons of chemicals in them.

IF you had a family, I would say cook up a roast beef and get a slicer...more economical and better for you...but since you are a family of one...do the best you can.

My salads usually are romaine lettuce (deep green and crunchy - good for you), tomato, cucumber, turkey or chicken and ham...usually a slice of each diced up...some boiled egg white (I don't like egg yolk), and perhaps a crumbled slice of bacon (I cook mine in the microwave and do more than a few pieces at a time), and a sprinkling of shredded cheddar cheese.

Top with a yummy dressing and you have a well balanced salad.

If you are watching your fat, use low fat dressing...and use turkey bacon instead of regular bacon.

Most of my lunch is usually the veggies...and the rest is just thrown in for flavor and protein.

Another of my favorites is keeping tuna in the foil pouches in my desk, along with mayo in the foil pouch...from the deli or mcdonalds or such....and mix them at lunch time...put them on a whole grain bread....add a slice of cheese...yummy. If you have a toaster handy, toast the bread first, then microwave it with the cheese on it for a tuna melt.

NOT the most low fat lunch...but the tuna and whole grain bread are great for you...and the cheese is much needed dairy.

I actually often do mine on "Wasa" sourdough rye crackers...which are a little like cardboard, but make a good whole grain "plank" to land the tuna on. I just nuke it til cheese is melted.

If you kept some whole grain bread at work, some cold cuts, some sliced lettuce and tomato, and mayo and mustard...you could throw together a sandwich as soon as hunger strikes...it's balanced, yummy and good for you. Add in some fruit and yogurt for snacks. A handful of almonds is my ALL time favorite snack...and oh so good for you.

Hope this gives you some ideas.

This usually fills me right up.

June 26, 2007
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hey, why don't we put this on hold until tomorrow...you think of questions, I'll think of other yummy ideas...and we'll talk more tomorrow.

I have some work that needs to get done before 5.

June 26, 2007
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okee doke.

have a good afternoon!

June 27, 2007
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rising - are you here today?

June 27, 2007
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i'm feeling ashamed

June 27, 2007
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what's up robbie?

June 27, 2007
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Just looking at what you provided, I would say that this was not a healthy meal. Considering you ate the entire package, you had 15 grams of fat and about 9 grams of saturated fat. The saturated fat is what really concerns me. I was surprised to read that this was vegatables. I would suggest next time opt for the fresh veggies instead or buy the frozen ones without the buttery sauces ( I know that is the best part.)

Lunch meats are not nutritional sound as well. I would avoid them if I were you.

Heres to healthy eating!!!

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June 27, 2007
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ya - but i got a bunch of those for the whole week so now i have to eat them. but next time i will go with the more fresh and season myself without butter. rising i like your suggestion on how to make it more flavorful.

so my father asks me this morning - what did you have for dinner?
i say a roast beef sandwich. and he asks what else. i couldnt tell him. i said - something i dont want to say. disappointed he says - then you havent started your diet yet. i sat there embarrassed.

if im going to make progress im going to have to be honest. tell it like it is - here - so at the risk of more embarassment - i would like to ask - is there a line between being piggish and binging?

June 27, 2007
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that's a really good question robbie.

I used to be ashamed to admit this, but not anymore...it is what it is.

I binge.

I get something in my head that I want something, and I don't stop.

Example...I go into the grocery, and see fresh strawberries...so I think, I want strawberry shortcake...so I get the biscuits, strawberries, and whipped cream...then I see ice cream, get that, some caramel topping...then the cookies look good...then chips and onion dip.

Before you know it, my cart is loaded with nothing but JUNK.

I rationalize that I am going to RATION and only have one treat a day.

But each day, I binge...instead of meals, I eat nothing but junk. Like a junkie who hasn't had her fix.

Before the week is even half over, the junk is gone and the fridge still has all the fresh veggies and good foods ROTTING cuz I chose the bad stuff.

sugar is like an addiction for me. there is no such thing as moderation.

I used to stop at the convenience store and spend $12 a day on JUNK...cookies, ice cream, chips, soda...rationalize that I was stocking my desk for the week...it would all be gone by 2 p.m... that day. Convenience stores were great, cuz I could get smaller sizes...but I spent more and got more variety...but it was all gone in hours.

soooooooooooooooooo, what's the difference between bingeing and just being a little piglet.

I really don't know the line - except to say that bingeing usually involves an element of loss of control...mindless eating that doesn't stop until the food runs out or you get sick. I often ate pistachio nuts until I threw up...they were so good, I couldn't stop.

Bingeing is like an addict needing a fix. Being a piglet is just overeating at one sitting, perhaps being in the moment, just enjoying it?

As for your lunch yesterday - 90 calories is NOT alot...so it's no wonder you ate the whole package...it's not enough for a meal. But considering it was supposed to be a side dish - the rest of your calories are assumed to come from other sources for that meal - thus the serving size...plus with the fat content, that's another reason for the serving size.

Now - what was said that you were embarrased about and what did you eat that you didn't want to admit?

It's hard when a parent or loved one WANTS to help - they THINK they are being helpful, but being food police SELDOM helps. You didn't ask him to monitor your intake.

Maybe he wants you healthy, and is concerned...but perhaps his approach is wrong.

You may need to ask him politely to stop policing you...and let you get used to eating healthy and you will ask for advice if you need it?

I have been constipated....so my BF and I went to the store to get high fiber cereal, prunes, apricots and other good for you fiber sources.

NOW he is standing over me with the prunes almost demanding I eat more. He doesn't get that TOO much is a bad thing too. He is irritated that I won't eat more...but I know my body and know more about nutrition to know that I can't overdo it or I will get MORE constipated. I explain...but he is sooooooo worried I will end up in hospital from being plugged up, that he persists....when I go to the bathroom, he asks if I went poop and asks how much and stuff. It's kind of cute, but can be kind of annoying at the same time. I know he's just concerned.

It may be hard to be honest with dad...so next time he says "didn't start the diet yet?"...say "dad, I am not "dieting"...I am going to change my eating habits...to better ones...it's a slow process, and I want it to stick...it won't happen overnight...I am taking baby steps towards better health".

Dieting is a bad word...it implies negativity towards your body...that you are doing something wrong...changing your eating habits for life is a better way to look at it. And it IS one step at a time...it takes 21 days to break a bad habit.

You can talk freely here...I won't judge...I'm in the same boat as you.

My dad used to say "you lost ten pounds, great, BUT, you'll gain it back"...or "BUT, you got 100 more to go"....or "well, now your ass is two axe handles wide instead of three". My dad was NOT nice. One day his friends put him in his place and it stopped...I had lost 50 lbs and they all thought I looked great...when he started talking mean to me, they jumped down his throat...it was the last time he was mean to me about my weight...but he says mean things to my mom...he'd love for her to be anorexic again and wear a size 8 and have all her bones sticking out and her skin sagging and yellow from ill health. My dad isn't nice about that kind of stuff.

I have learned to love my body...not ashamed of it...it took years to get over that, after having my dad tell me how awful I looked, how nobody would love me...I proved him wrong on THAT one, many times over.

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my dinner last night was a bowl of cookies and cream ice cream!

I justified I was pregnant, it was hot and I didn't eat the whole carton!

but ice cream hates me, so I didn't sleep well last night..payback.

Oh, as far as your veggie things go...how about taking them home and using them for dinner side dishes, only eating a serving at a time...they will keep for a while in the freezer.

OR

when you make them - drain most of the butter sauce off of them before eating them.

the veggies are good...the sauce isn't....do the best you can.

I know for me..on a budget, I can't afford to throw food away either.

Or perhaps you can trade a family member for something, explain the situation and ask if they have any plain veggies in their freezer you can trade with them for.

just some ideas.

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