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Considering transferring from NYU after three years of college.
January 22, 2003
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Ok, so here's my very serious problem...

I entered college to study film and television production at a small liberal arts school in California three years ago. However, over the course of being there, I realized I had made a mistake. I needed a more academically challenging environment. I needed to go to a nationally recognized school.

So, two years in, I decided to transfer to New York University because that was the most prestigious school that accepted me.

However, I knew that I may not be one for big city life, because I never even applied to NYU straight out of high school. Nonetheless, it was one of the top schools I chose to apply to.

I studied at NYU for a year and hated much of it. I don't much like the big city. I prefer a more traditional college experience with a prestine campus, open quads, etc. I had some of that at my small school in CA, but not the prestige. So, it was a tradeoff.

Then I began to realize even more that I'm not even suited for the production track of film and television. I just don't like the production aspect of it. I prefer more managerial roles in the entertainment industry such as producer, executive, etc.

Before I left the small college in CA, I discovered that I was passionate for politics as well. So, immediately when I got to NYU, I decided to double major in political science.

After being at NYU for a year, I decided to take a leave of absense for a semester to work for a congressional campaign in my home state. I loved it. And after the election was over, I interned for my Congressman in Washington. Loved that too.

But now I'm back here at NYU and am growing depressed again same as how I was last year, only last year, I had intended on transferring. That didn't work out because the only school that accepted me didn't offer housing for the semester I would have liked to enrolled. So, I just took the leave of absense to work on the campaign.

Again, I'm back here and have been assigned a dorm where the roomates are disgustingly dirty (cigarette butts on the floor, dirty laundry and dishes everywhere, etc.), smoke pot chronically, and hold loud gatherings into the night.

I'm miserable. In this big city, I don't even have what I need most, a place of refuge. At the very least, I had that last year.

So, now I'm stuck fullfilling a major for the next year and a half that I don't even wish to study in anymore. Not to mention paying loads of money for it.

It has gotten me so depressed and unhappy, that I'm not beginning to see a counselor about it.

I have only one option left besides staying at NYU. I can take another semester off, intern for my Congressman again and reapply to more suitable schools. However, I think there's a very low chance of any school accepting someone who's already had three years of college, already transferred once, and took two leaves of absense back to back. If I'm wrong, please let me know, but it looks bleak.

I need to make a decision to stay or go by the weekend as that's the last opportunity for me to get my full tuition back.

Even if I did transfer, I'd have to spend a minimum of two years at a new school which would make me a Five year college student, six if you count the leaves of absense. As of right now, counting the one leave of absense, I will have been in school for five years.

I just don't know what to do. Sometimes I feel like I can stick it out here (I really don't want to miss out on having a good college experience, but practically I may have to) or leave for a semester to take my chances with other schools.

I'm sure a degree in communications (rather than film and tv production) and politics would be suit me better.

Please, I'm just making myself sick over this. If anyone has any advice, I'm all ears.

-Undecisive

January 22, 2003
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My 2 cents... get your degree, whether it be in political science, communications, film, whatever. Just get that bachelor's degree. It doesn't matter what your major is in. You can get a masters or do continuing ed for the rest of your life to pursue your true passion, but without that first degree, you've put yourself at a huge disadvantage. Why not drop the first unfulfilling major and focus completely on poly sci? How are your grades at this point?

Yuck the roommate situation sounds awful, and that can really suck the life out of you if you don't feel comfortable and welcome in your own place. Can you request a roommate change? Also keep in mind that if your place gets busted for pot, you could be held responsible too, so it would be in your best interest to remove yourself from the environment. What about looking for off-campus housing? NYC is very expensive, but I can't imagine that campus provided housing is a whole lot cheaper. Check with the financial aid department as well, work-study options most likely exist, as well as additional loans that could help you pay for off-campus housing.

If you can stick it out, I'd do it. Every leave of absence you take just extends that worry and burden on you by a few more months, and in a few years when you look back on your time at NYU, it will seem like a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of your life that you have in front of you.

January 22, 2003
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Thanks for responding.

Well, I've studied for three years to earn a film/tv production degree and have payed a lot of money for it, so if I'm going to stay at NYU, I might as well just stick it out and get it.

As far as the roommate situation goes, I can't go anywhere until after the initial "freezing" period which ends February 6th. There may be a chance I won't be able to find other housing because I was a waitlisted applicant as is, after taking a semester off. So, waitlisted applicants get pretty much whatever is left.

I don't intend in looking into off campus housing because it is horribly expensive and I just don't have the time and don't need an added worry hanging over my head being how long can I take out a lease for, what to do with it after the semester, buying all new furniture, etc.

Here's something I left out. If I took the leave of absense, I could still apply for NYU summer school. The credits I earn there would knock off a semester of work. So, I could still graduate a year from May if I ended up staying here. Which is the situation I'm in now. Graduating a year from May after this semester and another year.

So, I'm very torn with what to do. I would never drop out of college alltogether. I am going to get a degree. I just don't know how to get there yet.

My GPA is good. In the 3.7 range. Environment rarely affects my actual schoolwork. I always take it quite seriously.

I guess the issue is do I really want to graduate from a school I never liked with a degree I don't really want anymore?

-Undecided

January 22, 2003
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You aren't going to do any research at all on housing options? And you aren't going to apply for special circumstances with the housing given drugs on the property? I hear a lot of unhappiness in your post, and I hear ya, but solutions will not fall out of the sky unless you search for them. Don't wait to accept "whatever is left". Be proactive, call the housing administration office and explain your plight. Ask about low cost housing for students in the area. Check the roommate boards there, in a place like NY, there will always be people looking for roommates. 🙂

January 22, 2003
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So, what is really going on in NY today, hear it is pretty cold. Even my daughter called and sounded so home sick, and this is the kid that said , don't expect to see me unless you come here, she asked for funding for her sunshine fund. Yes housing is expensive out there, actually any where except the middle of the USA and I could be wrong. I say stick it out, changes cost, get that degree in any thing, then split. Politics and film are very closely related, a double major would really be great, if that doesn't take you to long. It must be a really ugly day, and that can get to the best of any one, ugh ugh why don't you try some yoga ? The breath work is clensing, and the focus you get, might help you to be clear. That is one of the great things about today, nothing is forever, and most of the time, when we get half way through something we go what the hell were we thinking ? Be creative.

January 22, 2003
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I do plan on arranging a special request for my housing situation. NYU is known as one of the top drug use schools, so I don't know how much consideration they'll give to me. Quite simply, there's no way I can spend a whole semester in there. Even two weeks seems like too long. I'm not even in my dorm now. I don't go back until 8 - 10 at night and then I go up, get my book, and go down to the study lounge for a few hours until they're all asleep.

If they cannot give me a guarantee that I will be placed elsewhere, I'll feel very uncomfortable staying and leaving it to chance.

Additionally, I don't want to cause a problem with my roomates there. They have been there the longest. They started out there at the latest by last Fall and some have been there longer. I won't feel comfortable spoiling their fun and then remaining there. So, a simple mediation will not be effective in this case.

Yes, it is VERY cold here. But it was very cold in Washington when I was interning and I wasn't complaining. If the major was film/tv/media studies, that'd be more my thing. However, I hate learning how to use video and editing equipment and then having to use them because I just don't see how it will help my career in the long run.

I'm more of the intellectual, book smarts type. I am not artsy in any sense of the word, yet I am a student at the Tisch School of the Arts. I just feel so displaced.

-Undecisive

January 22, 2003
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Well I've just ambled my way into my 8th year of University and the end is still not in sight (*concealed sigh*). It's hard work, but I'm assured that it will all be worth it in the end. I think you'll find that most undergraduates at some stage hate what they're doing and want to change or drop out altogether. I know I did (and in fact did change, which meant effectively an extra year of work). I think, however, the important thing is to stick at it. I know many people who have started degrees, found it too tough and dropped out after a few years. ALL of them regret it. They look at me and they are envious of ME because I have x number of degrees (the fact that I am envious of their job, house, car and the fact that they have more than $3 to their name, is besides the point :). Whilst it's certainly true you can 'make it' without a Uni degree...there's no denying the fact that it certainly helps in most instances.

Just like school wasn't all about 'what you need to know to go to Uni or get a job', University isn't all about 'what you need to know to get a career'. Part of the point of University is to teach you how to learn and to teach you how to think. In some respects thats the biggest lesson you learnt and besides there's more to life than 'a career'. I started out doing an Arts degree, which everyone assured me amounted to me working towards a piece of paper which at the end of it could be qualified as 'very expensive toilet paper' (hence part of my motivation for changing degrees). OK, so maybe Medieval english literature, the French Revolution and American History (when you're an Australian) isn't going to amount to more than intellectual dinner party conversation for most students, but you know what I learnt from it? How to read quickly, how to research information on a computer and find it in the library, how to work out what information was necessary and what wasn't, how to formulate and construct an argument, how to write effectively, how to limit my words to get to a point concisely (OK, so I'm still working on that one!), how to work independently and how to motivate myself. Now THAT is worthwhile, because here I sit in my 3 metre by 5 metre office with a view of someone else's airconditioner, a dead plant and a brick wall doing my PhD (and no, not in Medieval English Literature or the French Revolution!), but who knows, if I hadn't studied mathematics, biology, english, history, anatomy, anthropology and psychology, I might not be here. Life is about learning. You have a great opportunity there, so don't let it slip past you.

Nothing you learn really ever gets wasted. You want to be a producer or an executive in the entertainment industry? Great ambition. I hope you get there. But (and you might be lucky), I bet you, you won't walk straight into the producer chair 2 weeks after you graduate. It generally takes a long time and I'm sure you're going to have to work your way up there. Your first job might be in editing so mundane tasks such as learning how to use an editing machine are going to be pretty important to you. If you don't take that editing job, you might miss out on the promotion to producer...and in any case, what a great skill to have when you're trying to sort out the home videos!

I sympathise about your situation with your housing. When you're a student, it's generally a matter of putting up with what you have. If I was you, I'd examine notice boards for people looking for roommates. People who are after roommates have generally organised the lease etc and if you look around a bit generally you can find already furnished rooms, saving you that expense. It might take some effort, but if you're not happy then keep trying to improve your environment. Remember that if you're happy with your work environment, you're going to study effectively and that's going to help you get out of Uni quicker.

Don't give up, a little work in setting up the foundations for your life is going to pay dividends in years to come.

January 22, 2003
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So, why don't you write the script, damn we need some good material. Your genre would be right on target.

January 22, 2003
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--side note-- heck Squeezles, I don't think American History information does Americans any good either! *grin*

January 23, 2003
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It was actually one of my most interesting classes. The professor was an ex-patriot from Seattle (with the coolest accent), but he assured us that he was an 'Ossy' like the rest of us. We were able to basically choose our own research subject so we could fit it in with what interested us. I wrote on the KKK and Capital Punishment. That Capital Punishment essay was the best damn thing I wrote! And I'm still impressed with the way he could mark and return 55 essays within a week - it put all my 'Ossy' lecturers to shame!

January 23, 2003
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Witha GPA like that, you wouldn't have any problems transferring anywhere if that's the route you want to go. Keep in mind though, that most places will only transfer 2 years worth of credits. So then you'd be faced with the choice of doing 1 year of NYU, or at least 2 years at a new place that you may have a better time at.

I am sort of in the opposite postion right now. I just graduated from Temple University's film dept. I don't know the first thing about finding a job in this field. I transferred there from my community college, but Temple was weird about transfer credits. They took all 90-something of my credits, so I only had to go for 3 semesters.

January 23, 2003
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Another thing...surely there is someone on campus who can provide you with information on courses, majors etc and who could give you some advice on what your chances of transfer to another college are and help you sort out what is the best plan of attack? Some kind of 'guidance' office or something?

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