Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log In
Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
The forums are currently locked and only available for read only access
sp_TopicIcon
Cease and desist?
February 18, 2011
10:15 pm
Avatar
bevdee
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 259
Member Since:
September 30, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Hey,

 

What's up with this cease and desist?  What's up with claiming harassment? 

 

In a small forum like this, with  20 or less members posting?  If posting after someone you have disagreed with, is considered stalking, it's gonna make posting anywhere difficult.  It might seem dangerous!! - for fear of the accusation.  Quelle horreur!!

 

Here's a hypothetical situation.  Let's say I disagree with someone about the definition of verbal and ambient abuse.  That' a topic that is open to varied definitions. 

 

Let's say I don't consider every sideways glance, drawn together eyebrows, or glare - abusive.  The person who disagrees with me does see abuse where I don't.  We might have some discussions about it.  Since the subject might trigger, the discussion might become more heated and emotions might become raw.  I might get irritated that someone is claiming abuse where there is none, and the more sensitive person might feel that my not agreeing with them, or feeling their pain is abuse in itself. 

 

In the end, neither of us is convinced of the other's opinion.  Still, drawn to the same threads, or because here are only a handful of them, we often post in them.  Since I know the person I have not agreed with in the past sees abuse in the smallest crevices, feels bullied from way back, do I not post after her/him?  Especially a different opinion? 

 

It could be a race to post first!!  Or a waiting game, waiting for other post to go between the bullied's and mine, so as not to be accused.  This cease and desist, is weird.  Oops, I hope that's not perceived as a diagnosis by anyone. 

 

True bullying is serious.  It's gotten a lot of attention because of the internet, in the workplace, and in schools.  They are monitoring it, and psychological studies are being conducted on the effects of bullying, PTSD, and other disorders stemming from true emotional cruelty.  It's being taken very seriously.  So is stalking and harassment.  Everywhere.  

 

If someone says cease and desist, am I still allowed to post in that thread?   Should I?    

 

Stalking, seriously?  Stalking someone in a thread - just because there was a difference of opinion.  If you say that, you may cause the person to stop posting at all, for fear of that accusation.  Or others. 

 

Geez. Confused

February 19, 2011
9:17 am
Avatar
auto999
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 149
Member Since:
January 23, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

IMHO I believe that freedom of speech allows people the freedom to post the words cease and desist, ask people to cease and desist, etc. IMHO I believe that in order to legally enforce it, a cease and desist order would have to be ordered by a judge. IMHO I believe before something gets to that point a person requesting a cease and desist would need to use their true legal name and address and need to address it to an actual person. If we could just log onto any forum under a ficticious name and order people to cease and desist anything we don't agree with then theoritcally speaking one ficticiou/anonymous person or a group of ficticous/aonymous  persons could have the power to stop anyone from posting anything on public forums.  IMHO I believe  that the court costs for filing these cases  and hiring an attorney a great deal of money and the majority of cases get thrown out of court. IMHO a person does not need to ask someone to cease and desist criminal activity that is something law enforcement can deal with. IMHO a person cannot go onto a public forum and tell someone that they cannot go to law enforcement and report something they saw on the internet or go on a public forum and threaten/harass/intimidate a person  for going to the police about something.

I don't really don't care any more if someone wants to devote every waking hour tryng to figure out what other screen name I posted under on another site or if they want to spend every waking moment monitoring my on line activity to see if I have changed my screen name, whatever. It speaks more about the person doing this then about me. If someone believes I am chinadoll or whoever I will give them their right to believe whatever they want. I can't waste anymore time trying to control another persons opinion. If people want to come onto this site or any other site and diagnose people as long as it isn't me I really don't care.

February 19, 2011
12:12 pm
Avatar
auto999
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 149
Member Since:
January 23, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

bevdee said:

Hey,

 

What's up with this cease and desist?  What's up with claiming harassment? 

 

In a small forum like this, with  20 or less members posting?  If posting after someone you have disagreed with, is considered stalking, it's gonna make posting anywhere difficult.  It might seem dangerous!! - for fear of the accusation.  Quelle horreur!!

 

Here's a hypothetical situation.  Let's say I disagree with someone about the definition of verbal and ambient abuse.  That' a topic that is open to varied definitions. 

 

Let's say I don't consider every sideways glance, drawn together eyebrows, or glare - abusive.  The person who disagrees with me does see abuse where I don't.  We might have some discussions about it.  Since the subject might trigger, the discussion might become more heated and emotions might become raw.  I might get irritated that someone is claiming abuse where there is none, and the more sensitive person might feel that my not agreeing with them, or feeling their pain is abuse in itself. 

 

In the end, neither of us is convinced of the other's opinion.  Still, drawn to the same threads, or because here are only a handful of them, we often post in them.  Since I know the person I have not agreed with in the past sees abuse in the smallest crevices, feels bullied from way back, do I not post after her/him?  Especially a different opinion? 

 

It could be a race to post first!!  Or a waiting game, waiting for other post to go between the bullied's and mine, so as not to be accused.  This cease and desist, is weird.  Oops, I hope that's not perceived as a diagnosis by anyone. 

 

True bullying is serious.  It's gotten a lot of attention because of the internet, in the workplace, and in schools.  They are monitoring it, and psychological studies are being conducted on the effects of bullying, PTSD, and other disorders stemming from true emotional cruelty.  It's being taken very seriously.  So is stalking and harassment.  Everywhere.  

 

If someone says cease and desist, am I still allowed to post in that thread?   Should I?    

 

Stalking, seriously?  Stalking someone in a thread - just because there was a difference of opinion.  If you say that, you may cause the person to stop posting at all, for fear of that accusation.  Or others. 

 

Geez. Confusedbevdee said:

Hey,

 

What's up with this cease and desist?  What's up with claiming harassment? 

 

In a small forum like this, with  20 or less members posting?  If posting after someone you have disagreed with, is considered stalking, it's gonna make posting anywhere difficult.  It might seem dangerous!! - for fear of the accusation.  Quelle horreur!!

 

Here's a hypothetical situation.  Let's say I disagree with someone about the definition of verbal and ambient abuse.  That' a topic that is open to varied definitions. 

 

Let's say I don't consider every sideways glance, drawn together eyebrows, or glare - abusive.  The person who disagrees with me does see abuse where I don't.  We might have some discussions about it.  Since the subject might trigger, the discussion might become more heated and emotions might become raw.  I might get irritated that someone is claiming abuse where there is none, and the more sensitive person might feel that my not agreeing with them, or feeling their pain is abuse in itself. 

 

In the end, neither of us is convinced of the other's opinion.  Still, drawn to the same threads, or because here are only a handful of them, we often post in them.  Since I know the person I have not agreed with in the past sees abuse in the smallest crevices, feels bullied from way back, do I not post after her/him?  Especially a different opinion? 

 

It could be a race to post first!!  Or a waiting game, waiting for other post to go between the bullied's and mine, so as not to be accused.  This cease and desist, is weird.  Oops, I hope that's not perceived as a diagnosis by anyone. 

 

True bullying is serious.  It's gotten a lot of attention because of the internet, in the workplace, and in schools.  They are monitoring it, and psychological studies are being conducted on the effects of bullying, PTSD, and other disorders stemming from true emotional cruelty.  It's being taken very seriously.  So is stalking and harassment.  Everywhere.  

 

If someone says cease and desist, am I still allowed to post in that thread?   Should I?    

 

Stalking, seriously?  Stalking someone in a thread - just because there was a difference of opinion.  If you say that, you may cause the person to stop posting at all, for fear of that accusation.  Or others. 

 

Geez. Confused


bevdee you said "Stalking, seriously?" I think that if someone seriously thinks that they are being stalked, threatened, harassed, terrorized, think they might want to shoot themself, etc. they need to log off the damn computer and call 911. Then don't log back on. I also have to wonder when people come here and invite strangers into their personal life by giving them their phone number, email address, pm with people and post on a public forum where they live and what type of job they have is proof that they are not serious about protecting their privacy, themself, or their job on line. bedee you said "What's up with claiming harassment? "
  People can come on this site and make any claim they want does not mean it has any merit.

Forum Timezone: UTC -8
Most Users Ever Online: 349
Currently Online:
26
Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
onedaythiswillpass: 1134
zarathustra: 562
StronginHim77: 453
free: 433
2013ways: 431
curious64: 408
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 49
Members: 111165
Moderators: 5
Admins: 3
Forum Stats:
Groups: 8
Forums: 74
Topics: 38716
Posts: 714574
Newest Members:
anissafield, Aemorph, CaitlynForlong, AndrinNetzer, MaarcusPedersen, MarcusPedersen
Moderators: arochaIB: 1, devadmin: 9, Tincho: 0, Donn Gruta: 0, Germain Palacios: 0
Administrators: admin: 21, ShiningLight: 572, emily430: 29

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC. All rights reserved.
Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Health Disclaimer | Do Not Sell My Personal Information