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Cat Puke
November 8, 2002
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You've probably already checked, but maybe the vet has some ideas? It really sounds like you've done due diligence... the only other thing I can think of might be to spread cedar chips in his hiding places, or put plastic, vinyl or sticky tape down in those places since cats don't like the texture or smell of certain things, sort of the same way you get cats not to pee in inappropriate places. (Don't ask me on that one though... I adopted 2 kittens after Big Daddy ran away, and one of them I can't let in the bedroom because as soon as the little tyke gets up on the bed he just pees uncontrollably. Not sure where that trauma is coming from... but I hope he gets over it soon because he's keeping me awake at night yowling at the door when I'm in there trying to sleep!

Good luck taking care of your old friend...

November 9, 2002
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I think you can also get some sorta spray that is supposed to stop cats/dogs from going on to your yard etc (no idea what it's called or where to get it from...gee I'm helpful :o) Maybe try a pet shop or something). I think cats hate the smell of Ammonia as well so maybe that's an option?

Are you picking him up when he is in the theros of hurling? I found with my big ol' dopey cat Gizmo, that the best thing to do when he's struggling with a fur ball is to leave him to sort it out himself. If you touch him that's when stuff goes a-flyin'.

Above all else, remember that the best place for cat vomit, is in the cat :o)

November 9, 2002
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Grass helps with fur balls...can he get to some lawn?

Try another vet?

November 9, 2002
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I've heard conflicting stories on the ammonia. He might not puke there anymore, but ammonia smells kinda like cat pee, so you might have other problems with that.

I heard they are offering pet insurance these days... I laughed when I first heard about it, but now am not laughing any more after my $150 vet bill for getting the little buggers vaccinated.

Squeezles, great idea about the grass. PetCo sells "pet grass" for about $3 a pot, maybe your buddy would like that?

November 10, 2002
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My siamese has started to hide also, but he is only a year and a half old. He likes to crawl under the blanket and sleep. He is not very affectionate either. He goes into any tight space and sleeps. he has started to eat weird stuff like plactic, strings, paper off the fridge, he chews on hangers, boxes, anything he can find.

November 10, 2002
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My book says - causes of vomiting in cats:

Worm infestation (has he been wormed?). Poisoning. Hair Balls. Diseases of the digestive tract. Cancer or ulcers. Heat exhaustion. Viral or bacterial infection.

It suggests - frequent grooming (hair balls), smaller meals, available fresh water.

If he's hiding in odd places - is he beginning to feel the chill? Maybe he'd enjoy a cosy warm bed somewhere quiet?

I've got some stuff to give the cat to help with hairballs (no help at all to you, I know!) but I think you can buy it in the pet shop. Just don't get bitten when you squirt it down his throat!

November 10, 2002
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I'm new here, but this is one area I actually have some expertise, so let me give you my somewhat peculiar take on your kitty problem - when cats are sick or in pain, they think that an invisible "monster" is attacking them. (That's why so many of them run away from home when they are injured or ill, and end up dying alone.) They become paranoid and frightened, trying to hide where they think it won't get them. He is probably vomiting because he is stressed and old, and he is doing it in secret places because in nature, illness means expulsion from the "pride". He doesn't want you to dispose of him, and he probably doesn't want the moster that is hurting him to know he is weak, either. Honestly, he has lived a very long life, and it would be a kindness if you either got him some anti-anxiety meds or just put him to sleep. Believe me, there are far worse things than a painless death - sometimes I wish they offered it to humans as well. (But that's a whole different topic.)He will be with you in spirit, and I think he would be grateful. Good luck.

November 10, 2002
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Blondie,

I agree with ghidra that your kitty could be wanting to hide due to his feeling poorly and his genetic desire not to appear weak to you or unseen predators.

His system has changed due to his age and his previous bout (which is likely ongoing) with urinary tract difficulties is likely causing him to not tolerate the Deli-Cat food well. Furballs alone can cause cats to act the way you describe him, and at his age it's likely that he could use a more appropriate food, so I would encourage you to try a dry food like Iams Hairball type to see if that helps him. You can also buy inexpensive cat treats that have hairball treatment inside (greasy, which is why some people recommend butter). Grass can help settle a cat's stomach, but can also cause vomiting. However, I will say that if when your kitty throws up you definitely see a wad of hair, his problem is hairball-related and will tell you that some cats can have a LOT of excess fur in their tummies and that repeated vomiting is necessary to clean 'em all out.

Has your schedule or environment changed of late? Cats will also exhibit their displeasure via their health and demeanor...not just pooping on the floor or peeing on your bed...so perhaps he could be trying to tell you something. New job schedule? New love interest? Could your kitty feel shunned?

I am a strong proponent of companion animal euthanasia when it is used in the true sense of the word, but it seems premature to me to consider putting your kitty down. I believe you might find that he simply doesn't feel well and that it may be related to his food and fur intake.

November 11, 2002
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Blondie. This works for me. Spread vegetable oil on his front paws and he will lick for an hour to get it off. In the meantime it is lubricating his stomach and will not hurt him. Hope this works for you. It has for me. NO MORE PUKE!

November 11, 2002
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Another thing. At 13 he is not OLD. I have always had a cat in my life, but I always kept them indoors. But, they lived to be 20, 21 and 23. So, I do not believe 13 is old, but I do belive he is ailing and should be seen by your vet, but the veggie oil will help with the hairballs.

November 11, 2002
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Sounds like your cat is afraid of something. This is often something silly, that we could easily explain to them - if only they understood.

E.g. my cat didn't go into the kitchen for 3 weeks, because a can dropped from the table where he was just eating his milk. Nothing to do whith him, but explain that to a cat - he found this sooo horrible and dangerous that he didn't go back in.

And he took four full months to recover from getting trapped in the cat flap. At first when I'd open the door for him to go out (i realized that he wouldn't want to use his flap) he'd go away and hide somewhere, because clearly I was up to luring him near that dethly dangerous trap. Then I made the mistakt to carry him to the door to stroke him and show him that it wouldn't hurt him - consequentially he hid for two days, whenever I came near him.

I find that old cats can tolerate things that frighten them less good than younger cats. They get more cautious.

I don't really believe that your cat is hiding away to die somewhere. I think that he propably has hurt himself somewhere (because of his arthritis?) or taken fright, and now is playing silly, to avoid this - whatever it was. Propably by now he is also afraid of you, because you tend to drag him out of his safe places.

I would suggest that you create a save haven for him (e.g. a cardbord box whith a blanket in and only a hole that's just big enough for a cat). And when he's in there you don't do anything to him, except maybe talk nicely to him. Don't catch him there and put him somewhere else - otherwise its not safe for him.

Whith the vomiting I would also suggest that you check for parasites (deworming is fine, but there are other parasites, that can cause vomiting but are not worms), and - because he is older - get his thyroid and his kidneys checked. Anti-fur-ball paste from the petshop could also be whorth a try.

November 11, 2002
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You mentioned a new flea collar. Is it a new brand? Could be a reaction to that. My little black male cat did the pukes with a new flea collar.

Also, has the grass outside been treated with pesticides? My little Pomeranian insists on eating grass and promptly pukes. But you do see the grass in the clear vomit?

Next, my Pomeranian also will vomit if it is not fed on time. Don't be an hour late with the morning feed or she will puke.

Since he's older, are you keeping the cat food out at all times? That might help if he only gets fed in the afternoons...

Just some thoughts. My little Midnite is 11 now and is an outdoor cat. Sure, he's not climbing the trees as much but he still loves the outdoor life. I have had cats that insist on coming inside around 10 years old though. Like they want to be fed grapes on the bed or something...

Good luck with your kitty!!

November 11, 2002
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Hey, Blondie--the oil idea for puking hairballs is right on--Petromalt is one brand of hairball treatment that you can buy at the pet store--$6.00 or $7.00 for a neverending tube--all it is is a petroleum base remedy with malt flavoring that most cats like--I have one cat that will knock you down to get some and another who could care less. So, if Magic will goe for the oil--go for it--I agree that it'll fdefinitely help. Also, don't count Magic out for the count just yet--my b.f.'s cat lived for 16 years--3 years after the time the vet told us he was absolutely sure that Ptolemy was going to die that weekend(right!)
He was called Ptolemy because he thought that he was the center of the universe 🙂 Anyway, Ptolemy got older and slower and his personality changed but he was going strong until he decided to die on my b.f.'s side of the bed while we were in Fl.--freaked the critter sitter out believe you me! If you've recently had Magic checked out at the vet and all systems are go--it's probably just him aging peculiarly like all cats have a right to do! I have a friend who practices reiki--do you want me to have her pray for him?

Cuddle the kitty for me.

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November 11, 2002
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Ya know typos are my life!!
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November 11, 2002
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Here's what I do:

When she's not feeling well, I give my little Sam some tuna canned with oil, but drain off the oil first (it stays in the fish). I also have grown some catnip and oat greens in a flower pot. She munches on that instead of the plants, and doesn't throw up, like she does when she eats the plants.

I hope he gets better.

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