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Can not believe in the United States of America There is no help for me
May 17, 2007
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You guys, I am sorry in advance for whining. But...I was hoping someone might know of an avenue I haven't tried.

Here is my story. I have been married for six years. I haven't worked in over a year and applied for social security as I am only 37 they rejected me, now I have a lawyer working on it.

Nine weeks ago, I had spinal fusion which is a major surgery.

My husband would not take care of me, treated me like crap etc. - So we were fighting even more every day as I couldnt' drive etc and I was about 30 minutes from civilization. He wouldn't bring home grocerys' etc.

THen I got a ride to go get grocerys, and he was in the bank and had closed our account and took all the money out.

By the way we own a construction company, which I own half of.

Before the money disappearing, he had kept telling me to get the f out of his house, while I can't even take care of myself.

Anyway to make a long story short...I moved into my friends basement where I can be taken care of etc with my two teenage kids and my dog and two cats.

I have applied for everything. THe state of missouri considers us to be homeless as we do not have a home of our own. I am disabled and recoverying from surgery.

I have applied for every housing authority section 8 place. They all say one to two year waits with no preferences for being disabled.

I have applied for legal aid, someone will call me with in sixty days to take my application.

I applied for voc rehab they gave me an appointment for two months from now.

My lawyer has tried to get my ss claim expedited and we haven't heard anything yet.

I have talked to tons of attorneys that say I should get alimony but they all want retainers of over two grand when I have no income except for child support which is what I am paying rent with.

I did get food stamps.

I cant' remember what else, but no help out there.

IT makes me mad cause so many sit on the system who are perfectly able to take care of themselves and work. I can't work and it doesnt' matter.

Everyone says I shouldn't have left that house. Well it is way out in the middle of no where and without being able to drive it took to long to get anywhere. Everything is in his name even the utiliites and with no money that screwed me.

No equity in the house and probably owes more than he can get out of it. He says he wants to keep it. He is also now saying he will keep all the marital debt. Which he would probably have to do anyway cause its all in his name.

I own half the business as well, but can't get any money.

Now that I am gone, he is being MR nice guy saying lets get along. And he has given me 100 the last two weeks. HE says he will make my car payment and insurance and not shut off mine and the kids cell phones, but who knows if thats true.

I can't get much legal advice cause no one wants to take me on and make him pay later. He is saying we can work things out. But he has so many bills he can't really give me alimony. He is saying he will help me though.

If it doesnt' work out with us staying with a friend we will be on the street and its scary.

Does anyone have any ideas?

May 17, 2007
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all I can add is - did you try the legal aid system?

I know that in the state of NY, they have lawyers and lawyer assistants that work pro bono for people who have no income. I had looked into this for my ex, who wanted a divorce.

Legal aid would be the most beneficial, as you have no resources or income....so, it's low cost to no cost and no retainers.

You may be able to find them in the phone book.

As for the other benefits/system...unfortunately, none of them work overnight.

Is there a shelter you could go to?????

I know it sucks to have to go to one, but it may expedite it, as they often have "ins" with the right people and people in shelter are taken more seriously than those that have family and friends willing to help.

That would be all I can offer.

I understand what you mean about watching those that CAN work sit and collect....it disgusts me too.

Take care of you...and I wish you the best...will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

May 17, 2007
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Have to make this fast, i am on disability and an american. I needed help getting teeth, the news sent me to a clinic, when i got there they said i couldnt be helped cuz i didnt have a GREEN CARD.\god bless americ

May 17, 2007
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hopeful...it is frustrating, and I wish I had an answer for you. It seems that you have done all the right things. The only thing I can offer is support and prayers. (((hopeful))) and a hug...

May 17, 2007
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I have applied for legal aid, and they are suppose to call me back within sixty days to take my application. So even if the accept me it will not be any time soon, which is not great.

I just keep hopeing something, somewhere eventually gives. I do not want to take my kids to a homeless sheltere.

Thank you any prayers are welcomed!!

May 17, 2007
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Okay, first off almost everyone's application for SSI gets denied the first time. I'm suprise they didn't tell you that when you applied. That is common knowledge where I live. Most people know that you have to get an attorney, keep seeing doctor's and specialist to build up more evidence fo your disability. Sometimes people get denied 2x's before they get it, but you will get thousands in back pay if that happens. Don't stress, it will all work out. I know a lot of people on SSI for various diabilities.

Section 8, did you get on the wait list? If so you are lucky. Where I live you cannot just get on a waiting list. Once a year they allow people to fill out an application. Then they have a drawing and the first 2,500 random names they draw will go on the waiting list. I hope they draw my name this year. I'm on a waiting list for some really nice housing though, and I only have another year or so to go which is fine with me as I like my living situation right now.

You got food stamps, good. It helps. The reason you probably go denied cast assistance is because of your assets. You mentioned being part owner of a business and owning a car that is being paid on. See they take all that into consideration. Where I live you cannot own a vehicle that is valued at over $2,000 and receive cash benefits from the state. Many people that have nicer cars have them in other people's names. Maybe they do that so they can get benefits but I doubt it. People apply because they need help. The car is probably is a family members name because they couldn't get financed. So you have some assests and they usually say sell what you can if want cash. Cash assistance is usually given to people with nothing. No assests, no nice car in their name, they don't own anything either. There are other organizations that can offer help. Some organizations help with funds to move into a place, it's a one time deal. Some pay your rent once a year. You must look. If you want more info on your winning your SSI case do a search on google and you'll get lots of good info. I found a wealth of info that way. I'm not on SSI but I have a close friend that is. Good luck and things will get better.
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May 17, 2007
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Hopeful:

I am so sorry for your plight. Give me a couple hours and I will checkout what I can find. I'm sorry but family is fussin at me to watch a movie, and in my opinion this is much more important, but I do have to live w/ them. Geez. Anyway... I will get on this soon as I can and will post this evening.

There is some help somewhere, we just gotta look harder.

Be back soon as I can. I'm sorry.

May 17, 2007
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Hopeful:

May I ask what county you are in please. It would be of great help.

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May 18, 2007
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My homeless sister fell off her bike and broke her arm. She went to the county hospital and they wouldn't treat her because she was homeless. But they were treating illegal aliens in the waiting area. I'm so glad my taxes pay for the illegals to be helped and citizens are turned away (NOT!).

Wishing you all the luck in the world, hopeless. I know how hard it is!

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May 18, 2007
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Hopeful:

First off, I want to say that the things AQueen said are all very true. Good places to start.

I would suggest you contact legal aide and file for divorce or for legal separation. They can get an emergency hearing to get you some child support and/or maintenance. This would be right away. I believe there is a link to legal serivces below.

Also, on the social security... You can find an attorney that gets his pay when you receive your social security. This attorney knows you will be rejected the first and most likely the second time of your filing. The attorney can file for an amergency hearng for temporary disability. One thing... if you have worked in the past ask for social security disability income. This draws off of what you have paid in. If they go for the social security income it is as AQueen said... you can only have $2,000 of assets; that is in material objects and money int he bank.

http://www.dss.mo.gov/contactdss.htm

under choose an agency click on each of the following:
income maintenance - most important one
children's division
family support
general services
legal services - important one
medical services

this site is most helpful I think. Browse under EVERY category across the top, down the left side. Also, if you click HOME then you will get a huge listing of all the services offered. Also on home page there is on the top right A-Z. This will list ALL agencies and their secondaries.

Also, when you find a place to rent check into LIHEAP (low income home energy assistance) thru social services.

I also would suggest:

http://communityaction.org/All.....utMACA.htm

http://www.harvesters.org/Index.asp?~=

http://www.assistguide.com/Det.....8;State=26 this is for hospice, disabilities, rehab services, residential care

Contact your local church for help and/or referral to the ministerial alliance (or whatever it's called in your area, here it is RIO) in your area.

Local food pantries, thrift shops, all can be found thru social services.

I think that will be a good start. Let me know if you need more help. Also, if you can give me your county I can look in other places for assistance. I do hope you get some relief soon and I do apologize for not bein able to get you info quicker. It is horrible the treatment he has given you when you needed him most. I am truly sorry you had to live w/ that. You and your kids be well and move on to happier times.

May 18, 2007
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I do have a lawyer and he is trying to get my case expedited. Since I applied 15 months ago,
i have finally had surgery so I have a wealth of new medical records. I am praying that my case gets expedited and I get approved. Since I am 37 they said its really hard to get.

I live in Clay county, MO. I do not qualify for cash assistance because i get child support of 600 a month which is my only income. They do not disqualify me for any of the business crap because they know the situation. My car is an 01 but it is worth what is owed so there is no equity in it.

Yes I am on every housing list I can find, but they are all one to two year waits.

And some aren't taking applications.

My big concern is keeping my kids in one school.

Also not knowing my future physically, that could go many different ways.

I will check out all of those websites. They did give me a list of about 50 places and I have called every one of them. But I am not sure if that is the same site or not I had looked at.

I am on list for legal aid.

No lawyer will take me without a retainer.

This is crazy. The churches have helped me with food and clothes.

I do know there are places to help with utilities and deposits but I can't even rent my own place with no job.

I have talked to case workers with united service, united way, family services, salvation army, every housing authroity, you name it...I even called the Indian tribe where I live as my kids are registered indians.

But will check those out, you never know.

thanks hopeful

May 18, 2007
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Be thankful you get child support, food stamps, and have a car to drive. It could be a whole lot worse, seriously it could. Yes times are tough for you right now and maye you're not adjusting well to going without some things that are important to you but things will get better. Life is full of change, nothing stays exactly the same. We all have good times and bad times in our lives. When I feel overwhelmed I try to remember what I am thankful for because even though my situation may be difficult there is always someone who is worse off. I'm thankful that I have a car, a place to live, food on the table, everything my son needs, I'm in enrolled in school, I'm clean and sober, and I'm working on my codependency. I'm very happy and proud of myself for leaving a unhealthy relationship! So try to think of the things that you are thankful for today. Life will get better, I'm sure of it. I've had some real tough times back when I was using drugs and making poor choices. My life is soooooooo different today.
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May 18, 2007
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I am grateful for what we do have. It is very hard for me to live with someone else with two kids a dog two cats, it is giving me anxiety. At any moment they could say get out.

Also with my codependent nature, I am overdoing things, ya know just had back surgery trying to keep the water smooth, trying to do everything for everyone and it is my fault. Feeling the strain of that in many ways.

No thanks etc. when I am killing myself physically, no offer of gas money after running everyones errands. Then I think, I should not be like this, after all they took us in. But, I am paying them rent 450 and all my foodstamps buys the grocerys so that is money for them.

And I can't let go of gas its hard.

I just want a place of my own with the kids, where I don't have to worry about all of this.

May 18, 2007
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The time U spend thinking about your x not doing anything for you and blaming him for your situation the less time you spend trying to become independent and owning up to your role in the situation. Hopefully you will heal from your medical problem and return to your prior level of functioning.

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HI Hopeful:

OK, to bombard you w/ more info. Check this site out...

http://www.state.mo.us/mo/county.htm

click on the left near the bottom click telephone services. There is a huge number of names and services. Check them ALL out.

Also, I don't remember if i mentioned or not. You can contact your church and ask if they have sponsorship. That is where 4-8 families will take on a family and divide out the needs of your family and help you.

Here is another I found on food and suff

http://www.tri-countymhs.org/h.....ectory.pdf

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I'm certainly not surprised by your story on any level. Alot of Americans are just one paycheck away from this happening to them and it's only going to get worse here.

And so often like you, many people don't see the potential for this happening to them while in a situation that has every sign in the world that it could happen. Then when the bottom falls out, we're so surprised. The people who pick for mates, the people we call friends, the society around us just washes over us as potential hazards until we fall victim to it. Then it gets our attention....

I can't tell you the number of times I've tried to give someone a hand up and have asked for "help" doing it and the churches were the first ones to give me the snub. Oh here's some clothes and canned goods, take care now.

We say much and do very little unless money and power are to be had, the rest from here looks like an insanely disproportionate facade of "what's NOT" true.

We don't take care of our own at all. You get lost in the rat maze of it all and it's designed that way from the get-go.

Life is much more ruthless than our denial system will allow us to see.

And then of course when are in a situation like this, speak the truth, or cry out in agony, well then....you're just being a baby. Love that one.

You've gotten some wonderful advice here from people, the only thing I can add is contact Habitat for Humanity. Although they may be overworked dealing with the victims of Katrina. Another wonderful example of how we take care of our own. God forbid WE should need anything here, everthing we work for here is obviously being used to support the war machine, not people of our own country who really need it. Sweet.

Write Oprah, write Dr. Phil. And I would be relentless with the shelters for women and children in your area or a little outside your area. Call them every day.

It's insane and shameful that this is the state of affairs in our own country. Hideous reality. I'm part indian myself, more that than anything else. Go to your tribal leader and then go over their heads to the next ones above them.

Just don't stop making noise. Be a pain in everyone's butt.

I know the black hole you are in and it's horrible to try and climb out. People alot less deserving than you get anything they want.

My company folded one time and we were all out of a job overnight and they kept our last two weeks pay. I tried to get help through social services and lo and behold I could get nothing for me or my child bec. my ex paid me $250 a month in child support. Oh wow.....wonder how far that will stretch? And yet, the waiting room there was full of illegal immigrants. I guess if I had three kids by three different men and married none of them and had my children here - while the ex's sponged off me, I'd get help.

I go to the store to figure out what I can get for $25 and a woman in front of me paid with food stamps and an overflowing cart of nothing but junk food. I just droppped what I was holding and left.

I did get a job in two weeks and recovered but that's because I grew up knowing this harsh reality about society and people in general. It came as NO shock to me at all.

I had to live with a family also for awhile during this time and it was an eye-opener. I was their maid. I didn't mind one bit helping out but it was more than that. That "something" in the air that says, I'm doing this but we really are better than you. I found out more than I ever wanted to know about what was behind their nice christian facade. Fake and arrogant to boot.

Get out of the victim mode and claw your way out. Be the loud squeaky wheel and be consistent every day. I'm BAAAACKKK!!!!

May 19, 2007
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Thank you for the suppport here. I have checked all those websites. I have called everyone, I even talked to a disability advocate and she said I have already done everything she would have told me to do.

I am already feeling anxiety about living here, some minor problems occurring, but for now it is what we have to do. I do not like it.

I just want our own place, that is our home.

I am not trying to play victim, although it probably sounds like it from my post. I am working my butt off every single day to try to get better, and taking care of everyone that I can, and trying to get my future straightened out. Applying for everything.

Look if I hadn't just had back surgery I wouldn't have any worrys. I've always had a good work ethic. I love my job, want to get back to it. But I did just have major back surgery, the worst of all back surgerys that takes up to a year or more to heal from and some don't heal. So knowing that I have to do all I can for myself to get better and do alot of praying that the surgery is a sucess.

I am not laying around crying, I go,go,go and am trying every avenue to heal myself and my situation.

You name it, I've applied for it. I am on lists for everything, legal aid, vocational rehabilitation, housing places everywhere and even counseling. I am on waiting lists for everything, and not so good at waiting. But I am not laying around saying poor me, I am pounding the pavement here.

Trust me no one will hire me at this point, they look at me as a liability I am in a huge back brace and on strong narcotics.

But I am walking two miles a day and going to the Y for water aerobics classes for people recoverying from surgery and stay active constantly, except several times a day like now, I have to lay down cause my spine wont' take one more second of this.

Anyway I did call habitat for humanity to they were on a resource list. You have to volunteer 300 hours building another house, have a steady job and decent credit. So maybe that will be of help in my future but right now, its not an option.

Funny, before I got kicked to the curb I was signing our construction company up to help them.

Anyway, I appreciate any links or ideas or anything.

I am going to write me a good letter to dr phil oprah, all the senators maybe the newspapers and the news. I am going to set down and make sure I get it out good etc.

What the hell right?

Thank you everyone for your encouragement, I am hanging in here and figure something somewhere has got to give.

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Hopeful for change ~ I am truly sorry for your illness and extremely difficult financial situation as well for your marital break up. You definitely need a lot of support right now and I am sure, having resources so many other people don’t have, your situation will improve. You are very lucky in comparison to many others in a similar situation: you have friends who help you, you are educated, you own a car and company (at least half), you have a computer access and access to many resources through it. I wish you all the best, and that your situation will improve as soon as possible. Most of all I wish you quick recovery and good health, because health is the most important.

It is pretty amazing though that while experiencing hardship as you do, you still manage to be judgmental to others in similar situation, who “sit and collect” when they are perfectly able to work. How do you know they are? How do you know that they have enough resources, such as time, money, education, child care, transportation, decent clothes to show up in for a job interview, family or friends support, etc. to ever get a decently paid job? Did you live their lives? I don’t think so. Well, now is your chance to “sit and collect” and you will see how great that is.

SD ~ “they wouldn't treat her because she was homeless. But they were treating illegal aliens in the waiting area. I'm so glad my taxes pay for the illegals to be helped and citizens are turned away (NOT!)” Yes, sure you have every right to be upset that your taxes are not helping the citizens of your country. Aren’t you glad, that at least someone is getting help, though?

Ladeska ~ very interesting point of view, indeed. Sad state of affairs that the most powerful, influential and rich country in the world cannot take care of their own.

“I guess if I had three kids by three different men and married none of them and had my children here - while the ex's sponged off me, I'd get help.” You might, but as well you might not. Do you think that being married/ having children with one man in opposition to three makes you a better human being, deserving more care, for whatever reason?

“I go to the store to figure out what I can get for $25 and a woman in front of me paid with food stamps and an overflowing cart of nothing but junk food. I just dropped what I was holding and left.” Perhaps this woman in a grocery store buying junk food never had a chance to learn in her family or through schooling any other way of life, or maybe junk food is cheaper and more fulfilling than food with higher nutritious value?

Perhaps the women you are talking about both come from the background where their choices are very limited, including reproductive choices, through poverty, abuse, neglect, etc. Does this make them “less deserving” than anyone else? Does this thinking about less deserving poor not perpetuate their situation? Do you really think that we all have equal chances right from the start? Does the fact that many are able to lift themselves make those who cannot less deserving? Oh well.

“And yet, the waiting room there was full of illegal immigrants.” What if the roles were reversed, and the countries from which those illegal immigrants come from had a history of colonization and imperialism, just like Western world does and you would be desperate enough to leave your country, your family, friends, and everything you held dear to your heart, and immigrated illegally to their country, and were begging for help there - would that make you a lesser human being, less deserving of food and shelter? Is that illegal immigrants’ fault that the government chooses not to provide for the citizens?

Isn’t that a democratic country you are living in, where citizens chose their own government?

I wholeheartedly agree with you in regards how the funds are spent. It is pretty amazing how easily Earth could become a Paradise, or at least a comfortable place to live for everyone. Below are some data, numbers to ponder, quoted after United Nations, 1998b: 37.

Global priorities: Annual Cost of Various Goods and Services (in US $ billon):

Basic education for everyone in the world------------------------------ 6

Cosmetics in the US ----------------------------------------------------- 8

Water and sanitation for everyone in the world ------------------------9

Ice cream in Europe ---------------------------------------------------- 11

Reproductive health for all the women in the world ------------------ 12

Perfumes in Europe and United States -------------------------------- 12

Basic health and nutrition for everyone in the world ----------------- 13

Pet foods in Europe and United States -------------------------------- 17

Business entertainment in Japan -------------------------------------- 35

Cigarettes in Europe ---------------------------------------------------- 50

Alcoholic drinks in Europe --------------------------------------------- 105

Narcotic drugs in the world -------------------------------------------- 400

Military spending in the world ----------------------------------------- 780

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P.S. Basic education for everyone in the world, water and sanitation for everyone in the world, reproductive health for everyone in the world, basic health and nutrition for everyone in the world are estimated costs, how much it would take to provide those goods for everyone on Earth; the rest are actual cost, the amount of money which is spend.

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Matteo: And aren't you being jugemental towards those of us who voiced an opinion? Are we not, based on our personal experiences, entitled to our opinions? I don't feel you need to devalue our experiences and opinions.

The iilegals in this country, especially in California, have exhausted out resources to the breaking point- and yes, to the point where they are given preference to our own citizens, even those who have in the past paid taxes to support the system.

But this is not the subject of this thread and I think if you feel so strongly, perhaps you should take this to the other side.

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SD ~ if stating a fact that someone is judgmental is judgmental - than I am. I never intended to devalue yours or anybody else's personal experiences, I just think that other might have different personal experiences and they shouldn't be discriminated against because of that.

Or is it OK to voice an opinion and talk about an experience for some - and not OK to do the same for others? We are equal but some of us are less equal type of thing? Thanks God this is an internet site where everyone is equal, and we don't necessarily have to reproduce the same prejudices as in real life. But then, again, this site is a reflection of real life.

I don't feel strongly enough about it to start a new thread, thanks for the suggestion, but I felt strongly enough to voice my opinion on this thread. I am allowed, according to the guidelines.

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Hi Matteo, as always - lovely to see you.

Hopeful......you are doing so much, you really are. Sadly, this is the state of affairs here. The rich get rich and the poor get poorer. I know a lady here who went through something very similar and it was horrible to watch. I helped her every way I could but every door was slammed in her face while she was walking around with a disability much like yours, doing what 3 able-bodied people either can't or won't do.

I didn't mean to imply that you are a crybaby, not at all. I'd cry too.....who wouldn't?

I'm sorry the Habitat for Humanity thing didn't work out. I thought it was a long shot.

There is no reason at all in this country that we can't take care of our own. Well.......there are reasons.......but, if you look at how much is spent on this war - that's one reason, if you look at how much the oil companies are robbing us of, that's another reason and the list goes on.

It's convenient for us to look the other way while the weak ones fall by the wayside. Denial is a strong drug.

The church itself, all by itself should be able to take care of you. If you don't use your funds for that - then what good are you - as a church? You just want a hand up, that's all, you're not asking to bleed the system dry like so many I know. You just want to get on your feet.

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I do not think I am being judgemental, I think maybe you could be in a little denial. I think there are lots of people who do need help, do not have a car, or childcare etc. But there are also alot of people living on the system who are lazy do not want to work etc. I know some personally that have no impairments. I think it is denial to not think this happens.

If I were in mexico or africa or whereever I would try to come here to, so I don't feel badly towards the immigrants, dont' blame them.

But my point that I was trying to make was that I am a hardworker, I am not one of those people who aren't trying. Trust me I just had the worst back surgery of all back surgerys and I doubt most people would be even up doing one fourth of what I am doing. I am a survivor I will make it somehow, but am in need of some help at the moment.

I guess its one of those things that you can't imagine unless you are in the shoes. There should be help for people who can't work. And we shouldn't have to be under a bridge waiting for it either.

I do not know what will happen today or tomorrow, and although we have been taken in, it is not our home, at any moment they can say get out.

Never mind, I was reaching out for support and now I feel like its just turned into something else...sorry

May 20, 2007
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Hopeful,

I can believe it.... Last August I had an emergency appendectomy that cost me 20,000. No health insurance because my husband filed for a divorce and I was laid off my job. I have worked my whole life, have been responsible, paid bills, no legal problems. I asked for help and was treated pretty poorly. I was told to borrow money from family and sell personal belongings to pay the bill. I have found employment in a limited term position with no health insurance. My profession is in a health related field. I also want to know the benefits of being an American citizen? You are not alone........many of us are wondering. Please don't be offended by others opinions. It is only their opinion. I hope and pray it all works out for you.

Ali

May 20, 2007
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Hopeful:

You know to take what you need and leave the rest. I am hoping you will do so.

It is hard to be in your position. I fear I may be in that position at any moment here. IF he leaves then I am w/o health insurance and my scripts are over 500 per month after insurance pays. Then add I cannot get any job. Yes, honey, we do know how you feel and we do know your fear.

I am truly sorry nothing is working out. Yes, your last post was very true. I think writing your senator, govt officials, oprah, doc phil... yes, I think that is the next best step.

Do not give up hope for if we give up hope there is nothing left to fight for. Yes, it is hard to not coz a lot of times giving up seems like the only answer. But, as long as you have your kids to raise then you cannot give up hope. They must see a mom that gives her all, and honey, you are just that kind of mom. Blessings to you.

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