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November 6, 2004
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I'd be interested to see that article, can you post it please, or post a link to it?

November 7, 2004
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To many of you listed above:

You seem to forget or maybe you don't know some very important things that the media doesn't want to tell you:

1. The recession started before Clinton left office. Then 9/11 hit. That pushed our economy into further recession.

2. The economy has had a strong growth due to the Bush Taxcuts. The unemployment rate is lower than it was when Clinton ran for re-election. The tax cuts didn't go to just the rich. If you didn't get a tax cut, then you don't pay taxes.

3. If you destroy the corporations and small businesses, where are you going to work? Who will provide the jobs? You complain about job lossess, but you want to destroy the corporations. If the corporations and small businesses can't be strong, then why put their time, money and lives on the line?

Why should someone who works very hard, takes risks, and becomes successful be penalized for being successful? They pay their share of taxes.

I know because I have a business and I've been successful. I work 60-80 hours a week and I will tell you that I pay a lot of money in taxes. If I have to pay more taxes, then I will quit working so hard because it will not be worth it. My incentive to work hard would be destroyed.

You complain about tax cuts...the less taxes you pay the more you have to put back into the economy, and the stronger our economy becomes.

4. Thank God we have someone in the office with morals.

November 7, 2004
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Thank you Dennie =)

November 7, 2004
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>> 1. The recession started before Clinton left office. Then 9/11 hit. That pushed our economy into further recession.
Answer: Recession started when Bush was announced Prez, first major drop was April 2000, but then the real ebb came in Nov 2000 right before the election. This year the market surged prior to election on hope that...... well, lets put it this way if Jack Welch feels the need to invest a couple million just to get Bush out of the office.. there must be good reason.

2. The economy has had a strong growth due to the Bush Taxcuts. The unemployment rate is lower than it was when Clinton ran for re-election. The tax cuts didn't go to just the rich. If you didn't get a tax cut, then you don't pay taxes.
Answer: Right, short-term growth. Who's going to pay for the administration's expenses? the bush-admin has turned an $ 80B surplus into an $90 B deficit and counting.. that'a total of $170B that americans will have to pay back at some time... how can u sustain tax-cuts? what happens to the $ when this pay-back times shows up.. what kind of inflation would that be? think about it!

3. If you destroy the corporations and small businesses, where are you going to work? Who will provide the jobs? You complain about job lossess, but you want to destroy the corporations. If the corporations and small businesses can't be strong, then why put their time, money and lives on the line?

Why should someone who works very hard, takes risks, and becomes successful be penalized for being successful? They pay their share of taxes.

I know because I have a business and I've been successful. I work 60-80 hours a week and I will tell you that I pay a lot of money in taxes. If I have to pay more taxes, then I will quit working so hard because it will not be worth it. My incentive to work hard would be destroyed.

You complain about tax cuts...the less taxes you pay the more you have to put back into the economy, and the stronger our economy becomes.

>> Who pays for the cost-of-infrastructure that you enjoy as a business? the high-speed lines, better roads, water and electricity? R&D on cheaper energy etc, how does that ever happen if hte govt is only working on paper-money? What happens when you aren't able to produce goods for export, what happens when all the $ is spent and nothing is reinvested in the future infrastructure. .Taxes are a necessary evil because they are an investment in the future liberties that ensure businesses will prosper.. I'm a SMB myself, yet i feel that taxes are a necessity so that i can continue to be assured that business' will flourish in the future, and not that small-biz and corporates will be burdened for the payments of the govt.

4. Thank God we have someone in the office with morals.

What morals??? lying about reasons to bomb a country for family vengeance? using national resources to satisfy personal vendetta? destroyign and terrorizing innocent people and children, school's and hospitals on mis-calcualted data? Judging the other people's right to love based on spiritual-deficit? Sourcing contracts from another country to the Vice-Prez' compnay that immediately POSTS A LOSS!!! Faking knowledge of current issues and ability to hold a debate by using HIDDEN electronic devicfes.. wow! SOME MORALS. Get real.

November 7, 2004
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Well said Dennie

I don't know austinguy. Saddaam used chemical warfare on the kurds in the desert between Iraq and Syria. That we know. Where are these weapons? Proabably in Syria. I had a Syrian student and politics were spoken in my class periodically as it was a high level honors class. He disappeared shortly before 9/11. Don't know if there is a connection or not. But he did make a few statements that have stuck in my head- they are not well-spoken English so I guess they can be interpreted differently: "You Americans value all human life, and that is a weakness of yours". "You Americans believe all people be equal, and that is a weakness." "You Americans talk too much-you think you threaten but you just broadcast everything." "Canada is not your friend they use you and they get used as they be weak people" and there are others but they're not coming to mind verbatim so I don't wanna print em. I liked this kid, but he gave me the weebies when he spoke politics. I asked other colleagues where he went after he left- just kinda inquiring about him- he came to say goodbye to me and a couple other teachers- I was told that he was turning eighteen and in Syria he must enroll in the military, another was told that his father was in Iraq and was calling him home, and another was told that his family was moving down south. Just weird.

I have more spendabvle income under bush. There is the additional child tax credit, higher dependent care benefits, and higher dependent exemptions. After his first year I actually made money working. I got paid to work. Which is smart, as I'm a single mom of three kids and under Clinton, I would have made more money not working with welfare foodstamps etc. It was tempting, I won't lie,but for a number of reasons I worked. Last year I got a 480 dollar teacher credit. Right off the top. Clinton's last year I paid 2300 in taxes. this past year I got 1374 back. I was paid 1374 to work. My working benefits the economy- I paid daycare, paid for medical insurance and recieved medical benefits through my employer- not working would have cost the taxpayers thousands.

I think a person has to decide upon priorities when choosing how to vote as there are so many different issues.

the measure of a nation's health is not how big the deficit is. It's the ratio of the gross national product to the trade deficit.

HMO's are a disaster to everybody.

So many people blame Bush for this war. the attack on the trade centers was a formal declaration of war. As was the attack on the USS Cole. AS was the bombing of the US embassy in Beirut. As was, as was, as was. It's about time this country respond. Enough. finally we got a president with the guts do finally do it. Afghanistan wasn't the national threat- they were just harboring. They are a war torn nation- Russia made sure of that. The threat was Iraq. If ya play chess, the board just after 9-11 looked like this: Taliban castled, moved the bishops and queen into protective position for the knight to move in and check. "Check Mr. Bush"

and Mr. Bush said [email protected]#$ that [email protected]$ and lit up the board. Drug Saddam out of his stinkin hole and said "don't you ever put my country in check again."

I don't know if I agree, but that took some guts.

AntiChrist? Resisting continual slaughter doesn't make one the AntiChrist. It's okay to say enough and to fight back. We were the victims. We have been, for years.

Not any more.

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November 8, 2004
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I have more spendabvle income under bush. There is the additional child tax credit, higher dependent care benefits, and higher dependent exemptions. After his first year I actually made money working. I got paid to work. Which is smart, as I'm a single mom of three kids and under Clinton, I would have made more money not working with welfare foodstamps etc. It was tempting, I won't lie,but for a number of reasons I worked. Last year I got a 480 dollar teacher credit. Right off the top. Clinton's last year I paid 2300 in taxes. this past year I got 1374 back. I was paid 1374 to work. My working benefits the economy- I paid daycare, paid for medical insurance and recieved medical benefits through my employer- not working would have cost the taxpayers thousands.

All of those wonderful tax credits you are getting and that 1,374 you got back.. can also be attributed to the fact that I choose to be single with no kids therefore at LEAST 27% of my check goes to other people. Frankly, I am working two jobs so that others can have all of those little tax credits you are proud of. So when you get that money back think of me getting up every morning at 5:30, driving to work at my first job, leaving at 3:30 to drive to my second job and hopefully will get home by 9:00. Oh, did I forget to mention that I also have to work Saturdays to make up for my 27% donation...

And I did what Bush said, go to college and get a degree. Guess what, I have $30,000 piece of paper and there still are no jobs. What few jobs there are, I am fighting for against laid off people because of our "prospering" economy...

As for the Syrian students.. what always amazes me is the ability of these students (not all exchange students or syrian students) to know America, but they are here in our schools for an education.. if we are so bad.. why are they here....

So many people blame Bush for this war. the attack on the trade centers was a formal declaration of war.

The Twin Towers weren't attacked by the Iraqi's. . Why are we in Iraq and not in Afghanistan?

and Mr. Bush said [email protected]#$ that [email protected]$ and lit up the board. Drug Saddam out of his stinkin hole and said "don't you ever put my country in check again."

Once again, shouldn't he have been saying this to Bin Laden (who is not in Iraq). The only reason he went after Saddam was to avenge his father who didn't take care of the situation in the first place.

I still am torn between being or not being in Iraq... but nothing changes the fact that Bush is a liar and lied to attack Iraq.. 9/11 was just the excuse he needed. It doesn't excuse him destroying all relationships with other nations.

Nothing personal against any Republican, but you will never convince me that Bush thinks of anyone but himself... least of all the dead soldiers...just glad I don't have to wake up as him every morning.. definitely glad I don't have to meet his maker...

Hard to believe that I have Republican friends...

November 8, 2004
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Well, ahealthierme, I just see things different from ya I guess.

I, too have republican friends. And Democrat friends. and independent friends. One friend who refuses to vote and throws away jury summons whenever she gets them lol. Political discussions amongs us are a little different though.

I think I'm just gonna bid farewell on this politic thing. It seems whenever I express my views or thoughts or say something, I'm referred to as a Republican and apparently that's a bad thing here. I don't feel victimized, that's not what I'm saying, but there's just so much hostility about party affiliation and I can't buy into that. I don't affiliate- the groupie thing never did anything for me.

Happy discussing, all.

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November 9, 2004
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the thing that bothers me most about this administration, is that it is DICK-led. It's all about a bunch of penises trying to out-piss each other. I tell you, if women were in charge things would be so much different.

November 9, 2004
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... and it makes me more depressed than ever. Is there really any hope for a peaceful and healthy planet? The ice caps are melting rapidly and all they can do is piss on each other.

November 9, 2004
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I support Bush. I grew up in a military town...and I checked the election results by county for my state and it was interesting to see that the military towns greatly supported Bush. I can't say that the war is being handled perfectly, but war isn't perfect. It's amazing to me how few we have lost considering what we face in Iraq. I don't think people put that into perspective and media doesn't help the situation. If the media was out of the way, I'm certain we could do our job more effectively than worrying about what gets caught on camera. War is ugly and sometimes you have to fight that way to win. I'd rather have the war overseas than here at home. But it appears we have our own battles amongst ourselves and lose site of the big picture.

Our nation is divided almost in half. Regardless of who had won the election, there is a big job ahead for the president and our government in general. There are always two sides of the coin, but we need to agree on the coin as a nation to move forward. The president is our ambassador, our figurehead...the people that make things happen work are behind the scenes. Sometime we forget that. The country had it's chance to make changes and it chose republican majority. Now it's time to accept this and move on - and support our President, our troops and pray that we will succeed in all endeavors for our future.

There will never be a president that can embody all things for all people. We aren't built that way as individuals to conform exactly to a mold, and will always have our right to a different opinion. Regardless of who is president, I feel it is our duty to support the position as a nation and pray that our leaders guide us in the right direction.

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True Bush cannot be everything to everybody, but everyone knows the camp in which he stands. Now is the time for him to realize once and for all his destiny and the reason he is now political leader of the United States of America. I'm waiting......

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