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Binge Eating!!
March 29, 2004
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Has anyone else had this problem, dealt with or is dealing with it now? If so, I'd love to have your feedback. It's not as if I haven't been told what steps to take not to do it anymore, but I'm struggling. Thanks, W.

March 29, 2004
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Hi Want. I do it too. It started when I was probably 13 or 14. At that time, I seemed to do it as an act of rebellion against my mother, who had me on a diet when I was 10, at least that's the earliest diet I can remember. I was pretty normal sized at that time and I feel if I had been left alone, maybe I wouldn't be overweight now. I still do it occasionally now but I think now it almost an act of self hatred. It's also a stress reliever for me. I feel like such a loser sometimes, it seems like I can relate to almost every thread here. It's good to have people to talk to though.

March 29, 2004
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I deal with this problem too. I eat when I am lonely, bored, anxious, sad, and probably other reasons too. I do that instead of feeling the emotions and I know that is wrong. I have goals and desires to be thin again and to feel good about myself, but I must not want it bad enough to quit overstuffing my body with food.

I know it is binge eating because I will eat and eat and eat and nothing satisfies but I still keep stuffing food into my mouth. I don't even recognize that full feeling or if I do I guess I ignore it because for some reason I think the food is going to make me feel better. It doesn't.

I just keep praying that one of these days something will click with me and the thinner person that is within me will win in this battle with food.

March 29, 2004
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I told my counselor about it, and she was very surprised that I would admit it, saying that most people won't admit to it. I don't find it a very attractive addiction or whatever it is, but it's the truth and might as well face it.

Rebellion against being put on a diet early on sounds like as good a reason as any other.

When I do it, it's almost as of I go into some sort of trance. I too just stuff it in, ignoring the full feeling. Sometimes I eat so much I have no choice but to stick my finger down my throat, else it feels as if I will explode.

My counselor told me to stop before I do it, figure out the reason why I'm doing it, then don't do it. Sounds easy enough. Maybe it's a crutch I'm just not sick enough of yet, though I feel I'm sick of it. I try to keep my weight down by not eating much or eating very low carb the rest of the time. I can't buy any more low carb ice-cream though, because I will sit down and eat the entire container in one sitting, which isn't helpful. Disgusting huh? My counselor also told me it was a self-destructive act and it's also an emotional purge of sorts. Even though you feel really crappy after you do it, you have put the cause (even if you can't quite figure out the cause) in the back of your mind for awhile.

There has to be an effective way of dealing with this. We all know how much more confidence we would have not being overweight. It's just a given. You would think that with everything else we struggle with, this is one simple thing we truly could control. I'm going to do more research on it when I can and see if I can come up with a game plan. If any of you guys come up with a good site or some suggestions, please let me know. Maybe later on, some others will post on here since I posted the thread fairly early in the day. W

March 29, 2004
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Check and see if there's some sort of binge eaters anonymous or something...they may be able to give you some useful insights. I binge sometimes, but not quite to that extent. my solution is that I don't keep any junk food in the house. It's like an addiction. Guaranteed I'll eat it all, all at once. If I really want something, I have to leave the house to get it, and then I make sure I only buy a little. Hope that helps!

March 30, 2004
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I went to a few OA meetings, but didn't keep up with it. They helped me to see the various reasons why people do it and how they are resolving the problem. Many of them gave up all the breads, some for a period of years and those were the ones who looked the best, I noticed. Some started out with just exercising and went on to run marathons and they looked great, of course. I have ate compulsively not even knowing what I was doing just like with the drinking thing. I have gone from one addiction to another. It seems to me I replace the last addiction with another one and it doesn't seem to stop. Everyday, I want it to be the day, I simply choose that this will be the day I will take care of myself and hopefully make that choice again for each day. I want to look good no matter what age I'm at and I have the potential to do that. Again, it boils down to just do it. Drinking a lot of ice water throughout the day helps me and I start dropping the weight by the next day when I do that.

March 30, 2004
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Losing weight for me isn't the issue. If I can keep from eating myself sick when I'm sad, lonely, depressed, mad - heck anything but happy! - I won't gain weight. I even lose it, trying to eat better, be healthy. Not diet per-say, but make better choices. But then something happens and I get into the circle again. Depressed - eat - more depressed - eat more. At that point it's very difficult for me to stop. On my current run with my wonderful food addiction I have been eating myself sick for days. Issues with ick man (my ex-husband) do it to me every time. I wish I wouldn't do it. And I wish I could stop after I start. I am going to try again tonight. Keep trying and eventually I will get somewhere. And most of all, I wish I wouldn't give him this power over me and my weight. My self-esteem. My life. ugh.

March 31, 2004
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I don't know if this is binge eating, but I am always hungry as a bear after work. I eat pretty much everything I can and then I fall asleep.

March 31, 2004
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Silence,,sounds just like my daughter. Doesn't eat all day (but maybe you do), is irritable as hell when she comes home, then eats nonstop. Guess it could be a form of binge eating,, I can't leave the house without wanting to stop and eat somewhere, especially when I'm with my husband. It's like a trigger when we get into the truck, and it drives him crazy (crazier,,hehehe).

But, if you find yourself stuffing food into your mouth, you aren't hungry, and you eat and eat until you're so full you feel you're going to burst, that's binge eating.

March 31, 2004
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I snack a bit during the day. Nothing big. But I stuff myself full when I get home from work.

March 31, 2004
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TO ----------tooscared
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I deal with this problem too. I eat when I am lonely, bored, anxious, sad, and probably other reasons too. I do that instead of feeling the emotions and I know that is wrong. I have goals and desires to be thin again and to feel good about myself, but I must not want it bad enough to quit overstuffing my body with food.

TS - hold my hand on this one - you have discribed me too a tee! I hate the little bulge that is appearing. Eat yes but never feel satisfied. Found a little ruse only these last few days. Eat a main meal very late. Eating around six pm - I find is far too early. Deny yourself until late then stuff and hit the sack! Awful way to live but I have found it works better and stops me always on the hunt for something nice just after eating four square.
Love . AC.

March 31, 2004
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Thanks for caring Anam. I know we will get through eating because of the highs and lows of our emotions, but it sure seems frustrating at times. I should have known today that with me feeling so teary and emotional that I would have the munchies most of the day. I wish I were the type of person that couldn't eat when she was upset or sad.

It does help to know that others have the same problem and also are trying to work on it. Maybe we will stumble upon something together that will be of great help.

March 31, 2004
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Don't stop yourself from eating, just try to eat different stuff!

YOu can eat carrots until your jaw feels like it's going to fall off and not gain that much calorically
Plus, the carrots are good for you!
Or other veggies.

Protein will make you feel full. have some yogurt before bed. Just a light snack. Your metabolism slows down too much while you sleep.

If anyone wants to know how to eat better, let me know
Got tonnes of info!

April 1, 2004
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tonight I had a can of soup, an english muffin, a cheese sandwich, some crackers and a few chocolate miniatures. I can't help it. I need to eat when I get home from work.

April 1, 2004
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Hi All!!

Wishes,,I've done the same exact thing as you describe. You can identify one of your reasons, - your ex. To me, it seems to come down to the same thing,,giving someone else power over us. We use self-destructive methods to deal with our emotional crap. What do you think?

There have been times when there was absolutely no junk food in the house at all. In fact, we just don't have it because we've been on the low-carb diet anyway for a while now, and I've lost weight on it... I've gone the eat more healthy if you have to binge route,i.e., carrots, celery, etc. I'm ashamed to say that about 3 months ago I got out the staples, flour, eggs, sugar (which I keep for hummingbird foot), coca and butter and made a recipe simply called "chocolate stuff" and ate the entire pan.. I haven't done that since, and I feel so foolish and out of control when I do something like that, and it is being out of control. I also feel disgusted with myself after an episode. It's one thing to do hormonal eating. Most women I talk to do that to some extent, but this other stuffing is just,,,what? A way of dealing with stress I suppose.

I've heard of overeater's anonymous and have known a couple of people who went there (worked with one). The one I worked with had food with her all of the time. Her purse was full of all sorts of different things to eat. It was mostly healthy food, though. So maybe if we all get a knapsack and fill it full of carrots and celery,,,we can munch out till the cows come home!!! :}
Maybe when we start stuffing, we can think of each other doing the same thing, have a chuckle, and put it down!!! Heck,,worth a try,, we've tried everything else!! And humor is definitely tops on my list for many things!! W.

April 1, 2004
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I find that it helps to use more time (before and during eating). But its not easy.

I tend to stuff myself when I come home from work sometimes, too. Now I try to persuade myself to make myself at home first for at least 20 minutes, and then start preparing something to eat (maybe I get to think then, before I have polished off everything in the fridge). And I try and eat slowly.

But I can't keep peanut butter in the house. Nossir - doesn't keep.

April 1, 2004
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And I think it helps not to blame myself, once I did it. Rather sit back and observe - how does it make me feel. What is the part of it that I like - what else is there. How does that change whith time. I think that these cravings are for something. And when I find the special something that I want (and I betcha, its propably not half a cup of peanut butter whith jam), I can just get this, and spare the rest of the binge while fullfilling the need. Sometimes I think its about healthy food (vitamins, minerals?), but not every craving goes away whith a helping of spinach.

April 1, 2004
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Although I don't have a binge eating problem, when I am stressed (which is quite frequently) I don't eat. Everything I put in my mouth ends up coming out one way or another. I understand what you are going through.

April 1, 2004
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Wanttobewell, thanks for responding. This is such a great forum. But, yes, I usually see what is making me do this - and I suppose seeing it is at least a little help - but to stop is so hard. I mean, it's not like cigarettes where you can go cold turkey. You have to keep 'using' food to live. And I've tried muching on healthy stuff when the round starts, but it just doesn't do the trick. I always go hunting out the bad things and I've done the very same 'chocolate stuff' thing before too (although mine was homemade bread). It makes me feel horrible about myself and my will power. I'll start with the good stuff, but never stay there. At least last night and this morning, I've managed to keep it under control. Maybe this 'wave' is over. For now. Well, it helps that ick isn't around this week (and that I've spent the last two days listening to loud angry music). I wish he would just go away and leave us alone. I feel the anger bubbling up inside me, and I have no where for it to go, so I guess I try and smother it.

As for overeaters anonymous, those groups just don't work for me. I know they are miracle workers for alot of people, but I'm so introverted and shy that I just go there, feel like a fool, then leave - I've tried several. I would really like to try picturing you doing what I do, laugh, and give it up. That could work for both of us! Know any good jokes to add? We just can't beat ourselves up about it. If you're anything like me, you beat yourself up enough as it is. Be happy 🙂

April 1, 2004
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I agree totally,,,healthy food just doesn't cut it for this type of binging. Oh, if I'm feeling particularly self-righeous, I'll start out with something healthy, but it isn't long until I realize that I need stuff that would make others really sick to see me eat so much of!!! I don't even buy peanut butter anymore, simply look at it longingly in the market for a long time. I look at the label and calculate how many fat grams, etc. I'd be eating,,maybe I could make it up by just eating lettuce for 3 days afterwards, right!! like I'm gonna do THAT!!

We're definitely trying to fill some type of void, aren't we? I suppose the trick is figuring out the void or voids, Lord knows there's more than one, I'm sure.

I don't whether we crave food because of nutritional deficiencies. My eye doctor told me that the vitamins you buy in the drug store or any inexpensive vitamins you buy "suck." I swear he said "suck." He told me this Tues. He said they aren't absorbed, and all you get when you buy them is expensive urine. He then named off all of the leading brands (several of which I partake of myself) and called them junk or they "suck." I don't know why I found that so hilarious that he said that. This was after he diagnosed me with macular degeneration, which I thought "REALLY sucked." That's how the subject of vitamins came up. Bottom line was you should be really careful where you get your vitamins unless you want to waste your money. So,,,there's the healthful "tip o' the day" straight from the horses mouth, through me.

The only thing that takes away my appetite is something catastrophic, i.e., not too long ago, a doctor told my husband after a chest x-ray that he was almost sure he had lung cancer but couldn't schedule the CT until three more days because it was a holiday, nice huh?? I didn't eat a bite. I wish I were one of those people who couldn't eat if upset. If that were true, I'd be on life support by now,,,hehehehehehe.

Looks like we could channel this obsession in a more positive way. We're adults. We have a choice about our eating. Oh, I've read articles, books, you name it, about eating disorders, what causes them, the steps you take to correct them, etc. I guess I'm just to to the point that I really want to do something about it.

Since everything I've researched on macular degeneration pretty much comes down to good nutrition and regular exercise (we won't talk about the smoking quite yet), the thought of being blind may help!!! Or,,maybe not!!! We certainly can complicate ourselves can't we? Gotta go back to work and didn't have time to proof this, so excuse me if it's full of mistakes,,,let's see,,,what can I eat after hubby goes to bed??,....W.

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I have a confession to make. I've been trying to diet for an infinite amount of weeks now. I start off the week with a bang and usually can only make it through 2, maybe 3 days without eating something I shouldn't. We had birthday cake for someone in the office on Tuesday and I did't have any because I was doing so well. Everyone was amazed at my will power. Guess what I had for supper? Apple pie with ice cream. I sometimes feel like food is the only comfort I have right now.

I've tried to look at it from a health perspective. I want to have a child in the next few years and I know I need to be as healthy as possible at that time. I don't know what it will take to get me to finally commit myself to a healthy eating plan and lots of exercise. My problem is not really that I eat too much all the time, I just don't get any exercise. I was reading some good reviews of a belly dancing video on amazon.com yesterday. Most of the women who reviewed it said it was a fun workout to do and that they didn't get easily bored with it like other workouts. I'm going to check into some other workouts but I'm leaning toward this one. It might be fun.

April 1, 2004
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I will get through this. One day at a time and one mistake at a time. Hopefully I won't repeat the mistakes 🙂

And so will you. We are strong. We can do this. So there! 🙂

I'm wondering which vitamins aren't crap? We all have our health issues, and vitamins help mine alot. Does this mean I have to go to the earthy-crunchy store and spend a truckload of $$$ to get the good vitamins? I usually just get mine from Costco. Buy in bulk! 🙂

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I think vitamins are just vitamins, so you can also buy them as cheap as they come. And try to get most of what you need from natural sources. Instead of eating white bread and cooked meat try wholemeal and fresh vegetables or lettuce.

April 2, 2004
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W, Thankyou for starting this thread. I think the sharing here is helping me because I've lost 3 lbs. once again. For the past few days I have managed servings as they should be for the most part. For me as for many, it is eating the wrong foods which set up cravings which lead to binging. I hope when I go shopping again, I will eliminate the foods which are tempting. It should be easier than it actually is for me to do because I like most foods so I have many choices.

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Hi all,,,believe it or not, I've only had one big low-carb ice-cream binge in several days. For me, that's great!!!! So we'll just keep it up, do our best, and think of our health or lack thereof. Eve, I don't know, you may be right, but the doctor really did tell me that about the vitamins. I had to go to the House of Health for the vitamins for my eyes, and they weren't drop-dead expensive, but they did cost quite a bit more than the drugstore variety. I told the vitamin guy there what the doctor said, and he said he could hardly believe that a doctor actually admitted that. So I don't know. But I'm just not going to take any chances since my sight is at stake.

Thanks for posting guys. This is really helping me too!!!!!Kind of a "fess-up" thread!!!

Gotta go to work,,,,W.

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