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Anyone care to share your "diet" secrets?....HSB
November 12, 2005
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I am so tired of losing the same old 5 pounds over and over again! I've got more than that to lose, but I keep loosing and gaining the same pounds.

I'm 51, probably perimenopausal judging from my hot flashes...lol. But still, I should be able to lose weight....but somehow I can't.

I'm taking meds for my thyroid, blood pressure, anti-depressant and birth control pills. I suppose any one of those meds could be making it hard for me to lose weight....or maybe I have no concept of "portion" control. It is getting so frustrating. I'm no good at counting calories, or weighing my food....I don't have enough discipline. Is there anything else out there I can try?

Any suggestions would be welcomed and appreciated. Thanks! 🙂

November 12, 2005
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To increase your metabolism by eating 5-6 small meals per day, an ouze of protein at every meal is helpful. exercise, is crucial at our age...i know what you mean i used to be so thin, but something creeped on me so fast, and i am too fat for me. i'm tall, but still want to lose. this is what i am going to try, it has worked in the past.

November 12, 2005
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OMW - Thanks for your response. Actually eating 5-6 small meals per day sounds pretty easy to follow. I've got a stationary bike, which is collecting dust lately, but I'm planning on starting on that again as well as walking.

I just have to make exercising a priority....otherwise it doesn't get done 🙁

November 12, 2005
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HSB:

I second everything OMW said, but would like to add The Great American Slimdown. I have done almost every diet there is, nutri system, weight watchers, slim fast, pills, and nothing worked better for me that this diet. It has you eat I think 6 times a day, I could never get it all down. It also has you do exercises at certain times of the day and includes sitting at your desk excercises for those who work. Best thing is it gives you what foods you can get w/ what other foods. Food combinations in so many varieties and a cookbook. Worked great for me. I need to try it again.

That's my 2 cents 🙂

November 12, 2005
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One thing that can help I think is not obsessing over the weight you can't lose. Stress causes a hormone called cortisol to be produced which makes it very very difficult to lose wieght. Plus, I would recommend taking a class of some sort. I take a kickboxing class which I love and because I love it, it motivates me to go and to work hard. Find something active to do that is really fun. Also, when you eat, take your time eating, DO NOT SCARF IT DOWN. It takes up to ninety minutes for the human body to feel full so if you eat slowly, you will be more likely to eat less. Plus you will enjoy your food a lot more.

Loverbee

November 12, 2005
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I eat whatever I want...don't diet at all. Full fat everything...just watch the portions, and make sure to get protein in the morning! Eat a more liquid diet as the day goes on. It works. I didn't want to do this, but I was on drugs that changed my appetite, and didn't want solid foods at night or large portions. I eat dove bars everyday. I am 100 lbs. When you get used to smaller portions, and you eat out, you will be shocked at how much food they give you. So, I take half home in a box.

The downfall of the American diet is diet foods, yet Biggie portions. Eat yummy foods that satisfy you, but just don't eat too much of it, and no heavy foods late in the day, but don't deprive yourself either. If you are hungry, eat before you go to bed. If you deprive yourself and "diet" and make all kinds of rules (e.g., no food after 6 PM), you will never stick it out. It is changing the way you view food. Start with smaller plates. Also, I find seltzer water really filling. Let me clarify, I do not diet at all. I used to. Now, I actually try to gain weight. I imagine one way I could gain weight would be to go on a diet to lose weight. Then, I would always feel deprived and keep eating more stuff to be satified. It is not about dieting. It is about your habits, way of life, and concept of food. By the way, I don't eat fried or fast foods...I don't like them, except for milkshakes. I also tend not to eat much bread..peanut butter toast every morning. That is about it, although I had a roll tonight with some soup and salad and then a dove bar....maybe I will go find something else before I go to bed! 🙂 good luck!

November 12, 2005
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physicians weightloss centers. it works.

November 12, 2005
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My mom has owned gyms my whole life and the best, most well rounded diet I've experienced is Lindora. You start out with two-three protien days to shock get your system in check and begin a weight loss diet... it's enough food... a little of everything. And then once you reach your goal weight, you go on this maintenance diet - it's enough food... you don't starve. You have to go in to the facility to weigh, and so the program holds you accountable daily. It's worth it. It's the best diet I know of.

My sister in law lost 80 pounds on weight watchers. If you can stick with it - that's a good diet as well.

November 12, 2005
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OH MY LOL.. I Fell Asleep.

Gonna get to bed now. Sleep well friends.

November 12, 2005
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Shaney....

Where would you find the diet? Lindora. Is that the full name? Interested coz today doc said he wante me to do 10 days of all proteins and no more than 500 calories.

Thanks

November 12, 2005
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i cant believe no one takes my diet secrets seriously. THEY WORK, darnit... but hey, that is okay, I don't mind having the best body. Who wants competition?

November 12, 2005
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Lindora is one of those establishments like Weight Watchers, or Jenny Craig. They have you check in every day - weigh in, and coach you about what you need to to if you're not on target. It's total accountability. 4-5 people where I work have done this diet, or been a part of this program... and they've each lost 30-40 pounds.

Mamma - 500 calories isn't enough for anyone to eat during a day. From what I remember, Lindora has you do 2-3 protein days. For example, when I do this diet, I eat: 1 hard boiled egg in the morning. A low fat yogurt at 10am. 3 oz of meat at noon. Cottage cheese or yogurt at 2pm. 3 oz of protein (meat) at dinner. Another snack (yogurt, cheese, protein bar) after dinner sometime. Those are your protein days. For your weight loss diet, you add fruit?veggies, carbs and lettuce until you reach your goal weight. Then you go on this mainenance diet that encludes even more food. It was usually more that I actually wanted, so I never felt deprived. I was starving on the protein days, but I did lose wieght in a healthy way. Taking vitamins and exercising was also part of the program. Look on line MamaC...maybe there is more info. That was it in a nutshell from what I can rememeber.

November 12, 2005
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Neshie, Neshie, Neshie.....

of course I take your diet secrets seriously too. And will most likely use them also. Just Shaney hit the magic word of "protein" and I want to look into that also.

You always have good ideas and advice tweetie... 🙂

Oh, and you have no fear. My bod will never look as good as yours. lol

November 12, 2005
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shamelicious-

We are going to have to agree to disagree...horrors! I have seen people spend money on jenny craig, lose weight and gain it right back. It is all about how you refocus your everyday life and the role food plays in it. GO off the darn diets. Read my post. Then again, don't or everyone will have as good a body as I do and stake and sheak will run of of chocolate shake with chocolate chips and whipped cream.

November 12, 2005
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Oh, Shaney, thanks but I've done the establishment diets. I still like the American Slimdown one best and it's one you do on your own.

Doc's goal is to see if we can shock my body into losing weight on it's own maybe this water weight will start to leave. I think he full of ****. I am at 3+ edema and by now probably 4, but now it is moving into my hands also. Already had it bad in my legs, abdomen, etc.

Neshie... yes you are right. It is a lifestyle change to lose weight and keep it off. My mom bought me Dr. Phil's book ... whatever it is called. But, I am working on boundaries right now so will have to read it after Boundaries. Anyway, his book deals w/ how you look at food and learning why you eat and how to eat differently. Lifestyle change. Thing is.... I don't eat that much, it's mostly waterweight.

November 12, 2005
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mamac which boundaries book? who is the author?

November 12, 2005
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time for some oreos before bed.

November 12, 2005
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Hi Neshie... Sorry I didn't get back to you the book name, etc.

Boundaries, When to Say Yes, When to Say No, To Take Control of Your Life; by Dr. Henry Cloud, Dr. John Townsend.

November 12, 2005
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Hi Hsb,

Thrilled to see you again! I haven't been responding to your posts lately coz I got caught up in my own trials and hardships lately. Its been very stressful and straining time to me. Some of my trials are resolved and others are coming out one after the other.

I am slim person, yet I am also gourmet and enjoy tasty food and I would love to lose some pounds as well. I purchased 1 month ago a very good book entitled "Eat and stay thin" by Joyce Meyer. I even started a thread about it which I am not sure what the title was. This book does not contain any diet plan, however it shows you why we tend to eat/overeat and why do we get fat in the 1st place!

My plan when I eat is: Whole meal bread as much as possible, semi-vegetarian diet, drink lots of water. Avoid junk food as much as possible. Replace the white stuff with the brown stuff as much as possible. Avoid salty products such as: smoked ham, smoked salmon, feta cheese, pickles, olives and anything preserved in brine. Too much salt really provoke water-retention, makes us puffy, and blaoated which in turn makes us look fat and funny! LOL

I will check out that thread and probably bring/bump it up for you!

~Hugs, Ras~

November 12, 2005
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Ok, please PLEASE don't anyone throw your mouses or keyboards at me, but i am 105 lbs naturally. I do know a thing or two about that extra five pounds though, after I had the baby I would fluxuate a lot, and when you are tiny 5 lbs makes an actual clothing size difference and i had to have two sizes of everything, which was expensive, confusing, and frustrating.

What I learned was that CONDIMENTS can be a big killer. You can't always see how many calories are in salad dressing, maonaise, what kind of cheese places use, etc. when you are on the go, which so often we are. Even at home it's easy to make soething healthy and then throw some cheese and maonaise on it just to make it actually yummy too. The good news is that just about EVERYTHIGN comes in low cal or fat free varieties, if you jsut make sure all of the stuf fyou have on hand is that and maybe carry the condiments you use when out in your purse or something in a low cal variety, then order things plain to dress up yourself, it is a big help. Also, carrying low-fat treats to snack on (carrot sticks, oranges, etc) can curb your appetite so you are not as tempted later to make the food you are eating richer or more filling and heavy (ie, calorie/fat laden).

Just the little things that helped me a lot--I know, I know, I have no right to complain, and really I'm not, but the advice is good and a lot of it comes from my sister who is a nutritionist. Good luck!!!

November 12, 2005
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Ive been switcheing from "regualr" stuff to Organic, and NON hormone,chemically treated stuff. When I did this before and added walking , even just ten minutes every day, It made a BIG difference. and one of my bestest BEST friends who was diagnosed with MS about 3 months ago, TOTALLY switched her diet, CUT OUT 90% of foods that were full of preservitives, chemicals, Hormones, Wheat, gluten, etc. She has Never felt better, has Not had severe stomach Problems that shes suffered from for YEARS, and her chronic pain is almost NON existant. She has lost about 50 pouinds in two months, and she still eats the same amount of food, she just eats Organic, Natural, foods, and pays attention to what is in the foods. she will stil allow herself to have Chocolate, but Whwen she can she'll have Organic dark chocolate instead of candy from the candy aisle. Ive NEVR seen her look so healthy in my life, andwe've known each other for over 15 years.
her mom got her this book, and although she warned me that she had to put it down for a couple days in between reading,((she gets paranoid like I do from reading too many theories and the like.))) that it really really makes a lot of sence and is working for her. She is No longer in Chronic pain, and says she feels better than she did right when she was diagnosed with MS, and that was pretty bad.
I'm gettingthe book as soon as I have the money to get it, I have no idea when that is, but I will share info from it when I get it. Thewebsite is:

http://WWW.naturalcures.com

November 12, 2005
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WOW!!! Woke up this morning and checked this site and found all these wonderful suggestions about diets.

I, too have tried several of the diets mentioned, but unfortunately not with a lot of success. It wasn't the diets themselves that failed, it was MY lack of control. I don't know what it is about me, but if you tell me I have to weigh, count, eat at a certain time, restrict the types of foods -- I rebel and want the "forbidden" foods that much more. I'll do well for about 2 weeks or so, and then I lose it and eat everything I have missed on a particular diet.

Neshema - I wanted to ask about your way of eating a bit more. Have you ever been overweight? I'm just wondering if you have actually used your way of eating to lose weight, or if you've been one of the lucky ones that hasn't had to deal with gaining unwanted weight? Your thoughts on food is right on. That is one "plan" I could stick with. I know my portions are too much then what a portion should be.

Ras - Good to hear from you too. Sorry to hear you've been dealing with hardships. Anything you care to share and maybe I can help?

Again, thanks for all the input so far 🙂

I'll keep you posted.

November 12, 2005
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My weight has been up and down more than Oprah's. Maye not to the same extremes, but well, stil up and dopwn.
When I eat smaller portions, eat more frequently, have little meals throughout the day instead of not eating all day and having a huge duinner, and add walking or something light to the mixture, it's always worked.
Eat less, miove more. Granted, now with my being on Sooo many medications, not being as mobile as I once was , it is more difficult. But even making little changes here and there can add up. like with my coffee creamer, I switched ot a fat free one that still tastes good. I now use Silk" dairy free soy-vegan coffee creamer. And instead of totally junkie junk food, I buy organic, lower fat "junk food" ate smart puffs last night, and enjoy pirate booty, and fruitty booty.
If its chocolate thats yolur vice of forbidden foods, I have replaced my chocolate fix with Organic, dark chocolate things that still taste yummy, have no chemicals and feed the choclate craving nicely.
Sharp cheddar, and smoked gouda are one of my "forbidden" yummilicous "Bad foods" but i simply cut back. I dont sit on the couch with a brick of cheese and a knife anymore. ((I can be terrible!!!)) I cut a few slices and leave it at that. if it's NOT in front of me, taunting me, I wont get up agai nto get more. Eating leaner, meats is helpful too, cutting back on dairy is helpful. I mean theres a lot that can make a big difference if you cut back. and if youre bound and determined to cut it out completely, gradual weening is better than what tends to happen with me when i go cold turkey.
As for my meds contributing to weight gain, keeping a diary of hen I take my meds with my pain levels, and carb intake can help me see if my cravings etc are within a half hour or so after tking certain meds.Some can make me feel like the need to shove anything i think of in my mouth.. kinda like when my PMS cravings come into full force.

November 12, 2005
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Oh my gosh.... Can you imagine the hoot my sister would have if I went to organic food? I've spent the last 6 years telling her it costs to much, it tastes like crap (most of it does to me), on and on and on. And now I find out I might be able to lose weight on it. AW, you kill me here.

I have alot of factors as to not losing weight. Actually 2 of the 3 docs tell me it's water weight and there is not much I can do about it. But the huge amounts of prednisone 4 years ago and the fibro, the apnea, the meds... they all work against me.

I have done excercising, etc. Each time I've tried to do a true excercise regiment, like at the health club, it has landed me in the hospital w/ something bottoming out. Last time it was the potassium.

Not trying to whine here honestly. Just lettin ya'll know so if someone would know what to do about the edema or to get some other weight off of a a weight resistent person. (sigh) So very frustrating. I'm just lucky my hubby loves me for who I am and not what I look like. 🙂

November 12, 2005
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Hsb,

Thanks for your concern. Well, though I have come along way in my recovery, I feel that I still struggle with shyness and the too sweet girl syndrome. I would love to be more assertive and voice out my needs and wants toward people who take advantage of my warm, caring and friendly personality.

Do you have any tips, ideas, suggestions or whatever? I will start a post about this next week!

~Ras~

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