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September 3, 2005
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Yo, I'm up for like another half hour...what u need to talk about?

September 3, 2005
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problems understanding women
my fiance just decided to change her
mind and not get married
no reason
just changed her mind

September 3, 2005
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i am here

September 3, 2005
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Hey Enoch;

I'm back. Sorry I had to run out for a minute before.

Have you come up w/ answers to anything I asked?

September 3, 2005
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I am very sorry to hear that Enoch...Hi mama

September 3, 2005
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Hi Nesh:

Sorry I passed out on ya last night. When the meds kick in they kick.

September 3, 2005
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no prob mama, okay, can you go read my post on a though by Nesh, this is something I am really pondering

September 3, 2005
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Nesh:

Good point. Either has never been given the room to "share" or when he did share was taught it to be an unrewarding venture.

Got some thoughts goin there.

September 3, 2005
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Enoch:

Have you come up w/ anything? Need a clue to help out.

September 3, 2005
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yeah, I am really trying to figure out why people abandon others or are unable to give and receive. I grew up watching very loving, respectful parents. After years of disappointment, I think who have too much time with people who have become somewhat immune to to disappointment, abandoment, and selfishness...sort of like when we used to watch the news of the vietnam war every night. It became part of normal daily life.

September 3, 2005
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I meant I think I have spent too much time with people who have become immune...

September 3, 2005
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There is only a small percentage that grow up in a loving, open home. You are one of the lucky ones. I grew up in a good home, but the love and attention was not there. Sad. When I see my marriage start to turn in that direction I panic. Lord how I would hate to live like my folks did/do. Sharing a house.

September 3, 2005
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Enoch: Still here honey? Would really like to listen if you want to talk this out. Maybe figure out why.

September 3, 2005
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Mama, sorry to hear your parents "shared a house." My grandparents were like that. I, on the other hand, have spent my entire adult life alone. I have much to be thankful for, and at least I have a nice home and great career, and don't have to come home to an a husband who makes me unhappy. I never settled, but there is such a terrible, tragic emptiness from not being a mother or finding my companion, and no one can really understand why it never happened for me...people say i am a pretty good catch...oh, well...it is really painful... but at this point, it seems fairly hopeless.

September 3, 2005
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September 3, 2005
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enoch,

I feel your pain, hon. This happened to me with my husband. However, he called me back an hour later apologized and wanted to marry me and stupidly I agreed.

Shoulda just left me alone because we were only together 2 days and now I am seeking an annulment.

Sometimes it may be better to just let them walk even when they call back. If the other party is having doubts, its a mistake to get married. However,I know that letting go, is easier said than done because of the love or in love factor that is so hard to turn off.

I'm so sorry. 🙁

~~bonita

September 3, 2005
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PS. Enoch, they do too have a reason for not wanting to get married. They just don't have the courage to be upfront about it.

September 3, 2005
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Nesh:

Never say hopeless. Because Hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has? But if we hope for what we do not yet hve, we wait for it patiently.

Learn to be content in what you have and then more wil be given to you. Are you content? Sometimes, most of the time, when you least expect it, are not loking for it.. then it happens.

I don't know if you are gonna give him time or another chance or not., but whatever you decide learn contentment.

September 3, 2005
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Mama-

Give who time? The my sort of guy? I really care about him, but the truth is, he doesn't meet my needs. I don't have a choice but to give him time. I am alone either way. I can't go out on dates since I had a stalker...I am just more isolated now.

What is the deal with your kid? I actually thought that was your cat. sheesh....that is what happens when you start in the middle of a story. Is that your child? Just answer me that.

Thanks, Nesh

September 3, 2005
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Nesh:

I am lost here. Is what my child?

September 3, 2005
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who is sick?

September 3, 2005
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Yes, my child is sick. She has a mass on the side of her neck that has now grown into the muscle. Has to have it surgically removed the 15th.

September 3, 2005
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wow, will she be okay after that? I am sooo sorry. You must be worried. You are so caring to others, given your own situation.

September 3, 2005
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but no, i don't feel very content, and not sure how one learns it...given life did not turn out as planned....how does one learn contentment with so much disappointment?

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