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All about the truth of allaboutcounseling
September 26, 2009
2:29 pm
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You see twinks-lollipop, with one finger pointing out, three point back

What you assume about me says more about yourself than anyone else. And you assume, assume, assume. Now you're just holding a big neon sign above your head.

You broke up with another psychodude and now you are here to abuse somebody you think can't/won't fight back. Everybody has their limits twinks, including myself.

Have a marvelous day in lollipopland!

September 26, 2009
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You are Newbie here and have obviously not researched the history of the site. Also, you seem to be in considerable pain. Therefore I am going to offer you a “pass” on our first transactions.

First of all, it seems to me that you are violating the anonymity rule of this site by referring us to your website. That also seems like spamming to me.

You made a big mistake when you wrote: “ALLABOUTCOUNSELING.COM is on the surface a simple referral resource for helping people find mental health services, and for connecting mental health professionals to possible clients.”

No AAC is not a referral resource. The main purpose of the site is to provide discussion board. During most of the life of this site, there were no advertisements at all. After many years of supporting the site from personal funds, the SC added some clickable ads to help finance the site. The SC asked people what they thought—did they find the ads disruptive or offensive? We told her that no, the ads were fine by us.

I came to this site, in 2002, as a male survivor of Domestic violence. I use the word “survivor” loosely because I was on Death’s Door.
Yep the FAQ page about Domestic Violence is hideously out of date and full of inaccuracies and misleading statements, and I have been requested that it be updated for a long time. My first post here was devoted to my complaints about that page.

But in the end, the info pages are not what this site is about; this site is about discussions. Yes, we get the occasional “man-hater” here, but they are far and few between.
And the person who runs the site is definitely not a “man hater.”

As far as making complaints against professionals who have click ads here goes, I think you are wasting your breathe; any DV organization that gets Federal funding pretty much has to abide by the (admittedly outdated and inaccurate) Duluth model, which is reflected in the info pages here.

September 26, 2009
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Thank you WD - needed your involement to set the truth right.

Dear SC - I can see no reason now for this argument to survive any longer.

AC

September 26, 2009
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((((((lollipop3)))))))

September 26, 2009
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I wouldn't have a problem if this thread disappeared at this point. Would anybody else?

September 26, 2009
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Hi andii,

Well, the thread violates the anonymity guideline--which is really the only "rule" here.

And it is spam.

I suggest we just let it sink to the bottom.

September 26, 2009
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Thank you ((((destiny))))).

And fear not my friend....free's attempt at reverse psychology isn't going to work with me.

I, afterall, having been posting with the same user name for nearly five years now. I don't think our little "andii" can say the same.

And speaking of that andii ... How long have you been posting here anyway? Because Twinks hasn't been around in quite some time...

Lol

September 26, 2009
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lollipop- You are so very welcome.

September 26, 2009
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as this thread sinks to the bottom...

Please speak only for yourself free -Paul ain't spreading his perspective to me in the least - I wasn't reading his writings to gain anything past my OWN agenda.

I had to laugh while eating lunch this afternoon with the boyfriend that right in front of me was a letter dated September 2, 2009 from the “Congress of the United States” a response to his letter…The first sentence reads , “Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me regarding….I appreciate your advocacy.” I asked the boyfriend if he ever thought of creating his own website (of course only after I asked whatever happened to the letters/contacts he ‘sent out to so and so’!”)

As I have many times over advised to the boyfriend… Paul ~ its important to get your facts straight FIRST before running off at the mouth – it makes you look like a fool when you don’t.

September 26, 2009
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I am not your little andii lolliland-twinks. Watched for a LONG time before posting, many people do. You three do this crap to people and you thinks it's fun. You've targeted me, when I post you have to all do your little gang up bully thing. You don't care who you hurt in the process or what happens. I'm sure you've been very kind to many people here and have many friends, but you have targeted me for standing up for mich and you cannot and will not let that go. It's ridonculous. It makes you feel better, so have at it- you cannot hurt me here, your opinions of me your reflections of me your vile vomit thrown at me bounces off. You have no power over me here. I'm not leaving so I guess you will just have to accept that and move on or continue firing whatever ugliness you can fire. But from here on out, you don't exist to me, as you simply are not worthy of any more of my time or attention.

Good luck

September 26, 2009
4:52 pm
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"...watched for a long time....."

Of course you did. Lol

"Watched for a LONG time...."

Of course you did. Lol

As for the rest of it....'tis true what LL mentioned in the thread she started that she and I have hard a rocky past and although not enemies (at least I hope not;) I certainly would not be someone she would defend just for the sake of it.

Also, I happen to like Mich therefore would not have a problem with anyone defending her. Although I know for certain she is quite
capable of defending herself.

Finally, anyone reading the interactions between you and I over the past several weeks can see quite clearly who the instigator is so enough with your poor me victim routine. Nobody's buying it.

September 26, 2009
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I can't believe you keep coming back. How you've regressed- at one time it seemed as though you really had your shit together.

What happened? So much drama last winter/spring and now this.

Free, you need a new gig.

Lolli- I love your chutzpah!

September 26, 2009
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(((lollipop3))))
(((lovinglife)))
(((Isis)))

September 26, 2009
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Instead of worrying about people coming in under new nicknames UNDERMINING the site, having these hugfests .... maybe we should pay attention to what this man is saying. He's serious about this. There talking about it on his website today. people that used to be here. There talking about here too

http://mensnewsdaily.com/2009/.....ing-women/

This explains why the referrals got pulled.

Under the google search engine, type allaboutcounseling.com and you will see that what he says here as himself is already searchable. And its right under the links for Allaboutcounseling. I read some of his stuff and on Thurs 9/24. he says he asked the site owner to update the material, and he hasn't gotten a response. That's why he posted, I think. Not because he was in pain and wanted support. He is threatening to use his influence on the internet to warn others. I don't care much about his message, either, cause I think it's a little too the other way. I mean I dont hate men, but I dont hate women either. I truly hope the site is able to continue.

The only threat that I see is if everyone keeps name calling and fighting until this is no longer a place of support. its pretty bad now. Or if this man succeeds in his campaign. Notice he respected the guidelines after MamaCinnamon's post to him. enough not to come back and argue? He's gone. He's busy.

September 26, 2009
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oh this is getting funnier by the moment and really is reminding me - more and more of a Coen Brothers movie!! Seriously.

Just hope the innocent people here don't pay the price for one activist who didn't gather all his facts and don't pay the price for those posters who were once banned who come/came back to create drama.

It will be a sad, sad, day if AAC shuts down : (

September 26, 2009
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... wanted to share one last thought on this thread - about this thread.

I think it would be so much fun to bring our issues with each other over to Pauls web site - to where he's posted about AAC - we could post under our screen names and hash it there. Now how fun would that be?! guest_guest is there talking about Tez and Bevdee. It sounded so silly because Pauls issues with AAC are completely different from guest's.

Could teach Paul a lesson on gathering complete facts first and addressing his mission appropiately. : )

September 26, 2009
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Oh LL, what a thought but honestly not worth our time or trouble. Let's let it go, ok?

I am sitting here laughing about it tho.

September 26, 2009
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I'm in!

September 26, 2009
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Me too Mama about laughing about it..i wouldn't do it but gosh would it be fun or what - could you just imagine?!

Oh my don't think I've laughed this hard in a long time : )

September 27, 2009
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Coen brothers? Oh Brother Where Art Thou? Remember when they thought theire friend was a frog?

"I'm not sure that's Pete." "Of course it's Pete. Look at him."

Funny stufff.

September 27, 2009
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Just a confession. I posted a note on this guys link above but this morning it was deleted.

Bitsy

September 27, 2009
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What did you say Bitsy?! I thought about posting something as well but decided not to -

Shondra- I love the quirky humor of the Coen Brothers : )

September 27, 2009
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I just posted somethng about learning not to hate men here and starting to trust again. I threw in a couple of nicknames of posters here. It showed up for a few minutes and I went to bed but this morning when I checked it was gone. Guess he doesn't play as fair as we do here.

Bitsy

September 27, 2009
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Hmmm, just because this Paul Elam guy posts on here and says he IS PE, doesn't make it so. Whoever this guy is has issues (duh). He just wanted to stir the shit. GOOD JOB.

I've been keeping this a secret but, I'm really Katharine Hepburn. Just go to my web site and blog @ Katharine Hepburn/ohIforgotshe'sdead.com

LOVE Coen Brothers. Or maybe it's more about George Clooney.....lol

September 27, 2009
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I used the link from Shonda post and found this....

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September 26th, 2009 at 2:24 am
AAC Website owner redirected me to Porn movies website after banning me
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Yup thats what she did. When the Site Coordinator of the AllAboutCounseling.com website banned me from the site a few months ago, she redirected me to a Porn movies site for a few days whenever I visited the Discussion threads and tried to submit a post – thats how I found out I was banned. After a few days, the redirect was changed to Google which it is to this day. As to why I was banned, I was banned because a Buddhist condescending personality named Tez (who gets chastised for being so by other users to this day) couldn’t take my criticisms of his Buddhist beliefs and threatened to leave the site. Site Coordinator couldn’t take the pressure and banned me. She also banned Bevdee (a nice person inspite of our conflicts who is probably badly missed by all there) and another user Free on the same day (who I believe has come back as Andii).

So thats it folks – the Site Coordinator (website owner) of the AllAboutCounseling.com website redirected a banned user to a Porn movies website. Doesn’t that say something about ethics and morality, considering this is a website dedicated to counseling, gentle support and therapy? Yes its true but she knew I could never prove it happened since I didn’t care to record video screen evidence but this happened, as incredible and unbelievable it sounds.

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