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AA should not be endorsed by medical organizations
October 16, 2001
12:50 pm
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majamike
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I'm upset because after being in AA for eight years and living in periods of extreme hell, I have finally individualized and intergrated my self to the point of droping the AA mental brainwashing. But, I have a resentment at the medical society and AA at large for misrepresenting the facts about the cult side of AA and the bashing of freethinkers in AA, the denial of mental health issues associated with addiction issues and the exclusiveness of doing it the AA way which does not work.

I want to involved in something like SMART recovery which does'nt use a false 12 step program and I resent that my loved ones have to go to out-patient treatment were AA is preached to them, contrary to AA traditions.

I would like to hear shared experiences of other who have escaped the AA cult.

October 16, 2001
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I support your position, having worked in the field for over 10 years. However, addiction is a very individual thing, and different stroaks for different folks, if ya know what I mean. On one hand for decades, Bills group was the only thing out there, and has saved lives, and families. It has been the only consistant thing available. I also believe that due to the fact that it has decades of "proof" that the rest of the communities, courts, as well as hospitals have utilized it as a "safe tool". The other signifigant fact is that it is free, there is no real financial agenda, and it is almost completely confidential. All signifigant factors. There are many tools available, what ever works for you is the best tool there is. I also support Rational Recovery, that is a concept that was created by some one who felt the same as you regarding AA. The inventory is a great concept, as is many of their sayings, and so many of the groups unfortunately and fortunately have become cliques, is that how you spell it? Amazing to me the most benificial tool in recovery is exercise, yet who gives that as an RX. I also believe that most addicts are sever co-dependents, yet the courts don't address that, but you have coda, a 12 step concept. it all boils down to a financial agenda if you ask me. There is not much profit in recovery, as relapse is part of the process, and they really have to work with you, vs some of the other medical modalities. I could go on and on regarding this subject, however, you have the freedom to explore, and with the internet, you can develop your own awareness, and move foreward. So, for all the negative things, I guess there are some positive, for some individuals, I am sorry that you had a bad experience, but there are many groups, and perhaps if you had found the right group, you might have a different view point. One truly needs to address it in a wholistic manor, don't you think?

October 16, 2001
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Amen, Mejamike

October 23, 2001
2:42 pm
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Sober nine months tomorrow and AA has never brainwashed me. I might of said that about the church I grew up in but not AA. The people are real the experiences are real, the pain and hurt is real. I was court order to go to AA and I hated it and today I go because It helps me to stay sober and alive. If AA was so bad I can't hardly see you staying for eight years. I wouldn't of made it one month if it was so bad. In AA if you are a failure people don't judge you are look down on you. You are always welcome back to the group. Hell in church if you were a failure you were just a damn sinner. AA kicks ass.

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