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My cat has fleas

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1:02 pm
October 22, 2006


shyshy

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I got a new kitty about two months ago and noticed recently that she was loaded with fleas. The funny thing is that my dog doesn't have them. Can anyone tell me why?

So, i've tried the usual remedies. I have given her three bath's already with flea and tick shampoo and I washed all her bedding in hot water and bought some powder to pour on my rugs. I only have two rooms that are carpeted and a couple of area rugs. I have also been giving her brewer's yeast with garlic which usually works like a charm (doubled the dose) AND put some harts flea and tick medicine on her.

SHE STILL HAS FLEAS!!!! Someone please tell me how to get rid of them!!

1:08 pm
October 22, 2006


cyndra820

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Hello Shyshy,

You may have to get an insecticide and bomb the house. Even though your space is small they've probably laid eggs and that's what's surviving and hatching.

Try getting one that kills the most stages, eggs, larva,pupa,and adult. I don't of a brand off hand.

Also, putting a piece of flea collar in your vacuum cleaner bag will kill the fleas in there. Start with an empty bag.

Get a good flea collar for your dog and new kitty. Zodiac is the brand I used to use.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Cyndra

1:38 pm
October 22, 2006


chelonia mydas

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I would recommend using Frontline Topspot- you can get it from the vet or sometimes pet shops and feed stores have it. It is a spot on treatment that will get into the oils of the skin and when a flea bites him/her it dies.

I have 8 dogs and 8 cats that live inside my home and I live in a very warm climate with year round flea issues. I treat everyone monthly with Frontline Top Spot and have yet to see a flea on any of them in years. I even have brought in strays that are completely infested- I use Frontline and they are mostly flea free in 48 hours. Never had any trouble with home infestations since I have been using this product. This is my only flea treatment- no flea collars on my furkids, nor do I do dips etc anymore since I began using it. (Prior to discovering Frontline- it was a completely different story though- dips, baths, carpet cleanings etc. not a fun thing)

Frontline can be a little pricey- but I have found it is worth every penny.

If I were in your position, I would treat both your dog and cat once a month with the Frontline Topspot- that will break the lifecycle that is probably established in your home. I wouldn't use most of the over the counter products, especially if it has permethrin in it. As a vet tech I have seen several cats go into seizures after their owners used it on them or their bedding.

Be careful too about any insecticides inside your home- if you do find that you need to- please get your pets completely out of your home while you are doing any treatments to avoid accidental poisonings. (another sad thing that I too often saw as a vet tech)

Good luck

1:41 pm
October 22, 2006


red blonde

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ShyShy,

How old is the kitty? Some things like Frontline Plus works well but the cat or kitten has to be above a certain age.

There is also a shot the vet can give to cats (and dogs, I believe) that will not kill the fleas but makes them sterile so that they can not lay fertile eggs, and then they die off. I think you can use it with Frontline Plus as well. It may be alittle expensive….ask your vet.

I had a similar problem, I brought an outdoor cat inside and he invested my two cats who never went out. Invested the whole house and my two cats and I become allergic to the fleas! I used my Rainbow vacuum cleaner, I used a flea collar in my regular vacuum, I powdered and sprayed to get rid of them. But if you don't get all the eggs, you will get reinvested.

As soon as I can afford the flea shots, my cats will get them but they are over 10 lbs and 10 yrs. old.

Otherwise, I am going to resort to an extreminator.

Your dog may become invested too, I think fleas just like cats more because their skin is thinner.

You can not use another product called Revolution unless you have had the feline checked for Heartworms. Something in Revolution is very dangerous to animals with heartworms.

Hope this was of some help. Hope the flea problem is solved soon.

Red

2:03 pm
October 22, 2006


atalose

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I would suggest a whole house bomb. You might find that you have to do that several times. I was told once that if you leave night lights plugged into ground level outlets and put a small bowl of water under them, you will see if the fleas are still around, they will be floating in the water. I did try that after I did a whole house bomb and sure enough there were still fleas. I did another bomb and continued on that path until there were no fleas in the water, it did work. I ended up doing 3 bombs but it did do the trick.

Atalose

~~Hope has a place, but not above reality~~

2:20 pm
October 22, 2006


shyshy

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I have not done the bombs yet but tried flea collars, shampoos, brewer's yeast with garlic and a generic brand of frontline that I picked up at Walmart.

The frontline like stuff my cat just licks all off. I'm sure she probably doesnt' get all of it off but probably most of it. I have read online that there is also a pill that you give them that keeps the eggs from hatching. I think it's called Program?

2:44 pm
October 22, 2006


red blonde

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ShyShy

Do the bombs. And check with vet on the flea shot.

I am not familiar with Program and am going to look into it.

As for licking off the frontline like stuff. If she is licking it off, then it may not have been applied to the right area. My cats used to lick it off when I put it in the "recommended" area between shoulder blades…so now I put it up higher on their neck, where the can't lick it. Unfortunately, my cats groom eachother and lick most of it off eachother. I asked the doc if that would hurt them somehow by licking it off and he said it wouldn't. But I still don't like the idea of them licking pesticide off eachother, that is why I am going to get the flea shots. And an exterminator.

Red

6:30 pm
October 22, 2006


gracenotes

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shyshy,

Try this one thing before bombing the place. Go to the store or your laundry area and get some good old fasioned cheap 20 mule team Borax. People have been using this for years.

Sprinkle on your carpet liberally or wet the carpet the rub in it and let it sit for several days and see what works.

Is this a young kittie? If so, be careful about using Frontline, etc.

My cat had terrible scratching and skin problems as the result of fleas. I went to Petco and bought Avo-Derm dry and canned food to help her skin. What a miracle. All the itching, licking, and stratching stopped within two days and fleas as not a problem. It think this wonderful food really boosted her immune system in some way.

10:28 pm
October 22, 2006


Anonymous

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You have to treat the cat and the environment at the same time. Treating just the cat doesn't prevent the new fleas hatching from finding a new host. May take more than one treatment. Flea eggs are in carpet, cracks and crevices, bedding – everywhere.

I have a kitten I found a month ago in a friend's driveway. She was about 4 weeks old and so flea infested my hand was black with flea dirt as I held her to drive to the pet store to get supplies. I bathed her that night in a gentle shampoo safe for kittens and took her to the vet a couple days later. Check the ears for mites too.

My 13 year old dog was already on a flea treatment, thank goodness. He has skin problems already. The kitten will be put on the flea treatment from the vet as soon as she is old enough. She gets her second shots the end of the month.

She's a bundle of energy now and torments the dog terribly. I had been mixing kitten replacement milk to can kitten food, but now she's eating the food with hardly any milk added.

Good luck with your flea battle!

7:52 am
October 23, 2006


jastypes

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With regard to your question about why your cat has fleas and your dog doesn't, I read once that there are actually two kinds of fleas — dog fleas and cat fleas. I thought that was fascinating.

Chelonia: You have me beat. I only have 4 dogs and 4 cats (and a bunch of mice and rats)

8:46 am
October 23, 2006


hopeful for change

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well I am a dog groomer and if your cat has them It is most likely your dog does, or will. If you look at the skin, it looks like dirt is on it, its called flea dirt. What I would do that would be the cheapest, is call around to the local grooming shops and ask if you can buy single doses one for the dog one for the cat. Groomers are always cheaper than the vet. Bomb your house and apply front line before bringing the animals back in. Do not bath them within 48 hours of the front line before or after. Frontline works on the oil in the skin and coat, and when you wash them it strips this away.

Once you have this problem under control you should be fine until spring. Then dose them about every two months and you'll never have this problem again.

Nothing else works good. Everything else is a waste of money.

9:27 am
October 23, 2006


shyshy

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My dog is mostly white and I've checked her and bathed her and have not seen any fleas on her. She's not scratching either. My cat on the other hand, I can see the dirt on her and she's scratching and sometimes I look at her and you can actually see when the fleas bite her.

I'm going to buy some foggers today after work and during the week I'll be taking her to the vet. Someone also told me that a teaspoon of vinegar in her water will help. The garlic usually works like a charm but for some reason it's not working on her.

9:27 am
October 23, 2006


mamacinnamon

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My dad is a vet so we've been around animals forever; get all the strays.

I agree w/ hopeful's recommendations. Frontline will not work unless you keep the animal dry 48 hours before and after application.

Also because of the incubation time on the eggs you need to bomb 3 times. I think 2 weeks apart, maybe 3; have to ask the local vet or groomer. You need to get the bombs that has the 3 P's on them. pyridine, pyrethins, permithrin. Adam's has a full line of flea and tick spray, foggers, yard foggers, etc. It's the only kind we ever use.

W/ the flea infestation you have you need to use Frontline on the cat and dog (both must be over 9 weeks old), use the Adam's fogger in the house, and also in the yard.

Yep, the yard too. There is a nesting of fleas somewhere that the cat is getting into.

That's my recommendation. Best to you on your exterminating.

9:49 am
October 23, 2006


shyshy

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Mamma: The funny thing is the cat has not been outside. So, she had to have had them when I first got her and I just didn't notice. I don't think the dog is dragging them in because I have checked her and bathed her and she does not have any signs of them.

I'll look for the foggers you mentioned today after work.

Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. I love this site. I always get some valuable information no matter what my problem is!! And I have many!! LOL

10:37 am
October 23, 2006


mamacinnamon

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ShyShy:

The vet and grooming places most have the foggers. I think they are cheaper at Petco and places like that. See if you have a discount pet supply place where you live.

Same suggestion on the Frontline and all animal supplies. Just be sure to check expiration dates at discount places.

:)

10:48 am
October 23, 2006


gofigure

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Just an FYI–Another good reason to get rid of the fleas is that they (the fleas) can pass tapeworm to your pets (icky!!). We're in the midst of a flea epidemic too–I sympathize. My girls and I remember now how itchy flea bites are!!

9:00 am
October 24, 2006


hopeful for change

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yes gofigure is right about the tapeworms….and the bombs are right on the money to. I personally wouldn't spend the money to go to the vet for fleas, but once you get it under control….just keep using frontline and you'll never have this problem again. I have three cats, three labs and a mastiff who all co-exist in the house….never had a flea in ten years…and I am a groomer…..always afraid I am gonna bring one home lol.

I think the biggest mistake people make is thinking they can buy some other off brand stuff thats cheaper..in the long run you pay alot more after trips to vet, bombs and then buying the front line.

You can also buy it cheaper from petsmegastore.com

1:08 pm
October 24, 2006


gracenotes

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Sounds like your cat is not as healthy as your dog, otherwise, she might not be showing the symptoms.

Besides the Borax I mentioned before, and upgrading her food to the Avo-Derm (she has never been healthier in her long life either, skin and fur look great), I also had great success a long time ago with getting some of that foam carpet cleaner and really layering it on the carpet. This was after I had gone the route of insecticide bombs, sprays, powders, flea collars, you name it. One "dose" of the foam carpet cleaner, and all the fleas were gone. Must have been something in there they couldn't live with.

It sounds like that's where you are going, but I just don't know why people always seem to want to resort to this option first when there are many other ways to solve this problem in a less toxic way. Ever since I started with the Borax and the Avo-Derm food for kittie, I have had to use the Frontline stuff a lot less. Really saving a lot of money too and have a very healthy kittie.


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