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2:28 pm
January 10, 2011


BettyAnn

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I know they say you can't help someone who refuses to help themselves, but my best friend's mom is an alcoholic and seriously needs help. She went through several rehab programs in 2009 and she was clean for a year, but relapsed a few months ago and is now just as bad, if not worse, than before. She is now refusing treatment and I'm afraid if she doesn't get help soon she's going to end up killing herself. If anyone here has advice on how to help my friend help her mom I would really appreciate it. Thanks!

8:58 pm
January 11, 2011


Tommy45

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posts 49

Unfortunately, it really is difficult to help someone who won't help themselves. Does your friend's mom care about your friend or anything else in her life? It's important to try to make the mom see how much she is hurting her daughter and others. Everyone in the mom's life must be firm in not supporting her and this destructive behavior. Going beyond that, if your friend's mom still doesn't want to go to treatment, then I think your friend has to try to distance herself from her mom as much as possible, for the sake of both of them. Putting up with someone who is at this stage just enables them, harsh as that sounds. It's a very painful, difficult process, and I wish your friend and her mom all the best to hopefully get through this.

3:02 pm
January 13, 2011


BettyAnn

Member

posts 49

Thanks for the support, Tommy :) It does seem that distancing is the only answer at this point. I found out last night that she went through a 72 hour detox program last weekend and then went home and got drunk. The rehabs are basically refusing to take her at this point – they are suggesting that she move into a sober living (halfway house) environment, but she naturally wants no part of that. I just can't believe this. I've known this woman almost my whole life and everything was fine. Then three years ago she completely changed. It's all so much to take in. Anyway, thank you for the kind and understanding words.

8:59 am
January 15, 2011


dtypist

Member

posts 49

Sometimes we need to understand the cause of the drinking problems. Being an alcoholic is just a symptom of the real problem. The symptom becomes the problem when the main problem is not solved. Try to study what happened with the lady's history in the past 3 years of her life and you will have an idea why she became addicted with alcohol. Did she lost someone important to her life? Did something went wrong with her plans? As I already said, you need to solve the root cause of the problem and not just the symptom, which is the drinking problem.

10:18 am
January 15, 2011


crystalwaters

NYC, USA

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posts 26

Betty, I agree with dtypist – if she has only been problem drinking for the past three years, something is likely to have brought it on.  Did she recently lose a loved one, a job…go through a divorce or a breakup?  I'm guessing she is in her 60s or so, and that is a stressful age to be in this day and age.  Many people are losing jobs, unable to find another job, and do not have enough money where they say they can stop working.  It's also an age where women often lose their husbands whether by death or divorce/infidelity.  What's going on with her?

2:15 pm
January 15, 2011


BettyAnn

Member

posts 49

Oddly enough there were no major changes. My dad (who has also known her for a very long time) thinks that she was struggling with getting older. Yes, she is in her 60s and I guess he could be right. She is divorced, but that took place over 25 years ago and she is the one who initiated it. She did have a great job until this happened. She had to take early retirement due to the alcoholism. I don't know. Maybe my dad is right and she just can't cope with aging.

5:54 pm
January 16, 2011


dtypist

Member

posts 49

Then she is losing something, her time. Still, I guess she has a problem and she keeps it to herself. If were in your shoes, I would try to make the best of her time and forget about her problems. Besides most alcoholics drink in order to forget their problems.

12:38 am
January 17, 2011


Loretta

Member

posts 50

Sometimes they just take that first drink again and can't stop.  She has to want the change.  Are you participating in Al-Anon or something like that?  Those groups help alot.

7:23 am
January 17, 2011


alvin

Member

posts 21

Tommy45 said:

Unfortunately, it really is difficult to help someone who won't help themselves. Does your friend's mom care about your friend or anything else in her life? It's important to try to make the mom see how much she is hurting her daughter and others. Everyone in the mom's life must be firm in not supporting her and this destructive behavior. Going beyond that, if your friend's mom still doesn't want to go to treatment, then I think your friend has to try to distance herself from her mom as much as possible, for the sake of both of them. Putting up with someone who is at this stage just enables them, harsh as that sounds. It's a very painful, difficult process, and I wish your friend and her mom all the best to hopefully get through this.


Hi Tommy45:

Unfortunately, the alcoholic won't see anything as important to himself or herself.  Especially those who like Bettyann's best friend's mom, who have been in and out of rehab programs.  I think that some counselors would see the need to identify the root of her drinking and then stop it right there.  If she drinks because she's lonely, she would be advised on how to find new friends and keep old ones.  Alcoholism is a disease but it's also a behavioral problem.  Like most behavioral problems, you need to find out what causes the negative behavior and stop it at that. 

10:18 am
January 17, 2011


iphone4

Member

posts 13

I would strongly suggest getting a much more qualified counselor then for her, BettyAnn.  I think that what Alvin said is right… there are problems there that may have not been fully addressed so she keeps going back to the drink.

3:09 pm
January 27, 2011


BabblingIdiot

Member

posts 30

It is truly sad but sometimes alcoholics have to lose everything that they do value before they will change and even then they sometimes don't change.

10:00 am
November 21, 2011


jordan.s

Member

posts 12

Post edited 3:05 am – November 22, 2011 by ShiningLight


When it comes to relapsing, that may be the last resort.  Sometimes it shows that the person is just unable to stay clean outside of a rehab/treatment environment, but that shouldn't be the end of it.  Don't give up!  It sounds like she is worse than before.  Don't let her just kill herself.  Even though several treatment/therapy options haven't worked before, that doesn't mean that it can't work for her now.  What kind of treatment was she in?  One thing to consider is alternative/non-traditional treatment options.  Have you ever heard about DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy)?  That is one option (if you haven't tried it yet) that can work.  Find out more about it – that might just be the one!

2:37 pm
March 16, 2012


care4sober

New Member

posts 2

Maybe you can discuss with her the reasons why her series of treatments were not successful. You can also accompany her to a substance abuse counselor and help her ventilate her concerns with regards to her unsuccessful treatments.

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